On 02/24/2020 05:02 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
>
> On 2020-02-24 15:57, H wrote:
>> On 02/24/2020 12:42 PM, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
>>> On 2020-02-24 14:37, lejeczek via CentOS wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 24/02/2020 10:26, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
>>>>> On 2020-02-24 10:51, lejeczek via CentOS wrote:
>>>>>> g) remember!! still at least (depending how you mount it)
>>>>>> the 'root' will have access to that data while mounted,
>>>>>> obviously!
>>>>>
>>>>> More than that: the root user will be able to access data
>>>>> in the future too, since it can steal the key
>>>>> while the data is mounted.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>
>>>> With a passphare only?
>>>
>>> Attackers don't need the passphrase, they can use the
>>> real key used for encryption (dmsetup table).
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>> So the final word seems to be that even if I create this LUKS-encrypted 
>> loop-back file and only mount it when needed, immediately un-mount when no 
>> longer needed, a root user can access this encrypted file system while it is 
>> mounted, and perhaps more importantly, even when it is not mounted since 
>> they can get the key as described above?
>>
>> My reputable VPS hosting provider in Europe of course outsources some of the 
>> support to other countries. While I have no immediate suspicion that they 
>> access files on my VPS, I also have no way of finding out, nor of protecting 
>> myself - apart from not putting "sensitive" files on the VPS or encrypting 
>> files before uploading them.
>>
>> If I upgrade to a dedicated server I expect that I will be the root user but 
>> will the hosting company still have access to my server?
>>
>
> Whoever has physical access to the machine can have everything. In the past I 
> was phrasing it "nothing can stop the guy with the screwdriver". Do not take 
> the screwdriver literally, of course.
>
> Valeri
>
Well, the scenario with a screw driver I can live with but not other types of 
access...

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