I got the first example from the postfix documentation here:
http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html
so I tried what I originally posted:
[root@mydomain ccc]# telnet 127.0.0.1 25
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to 127.0.0.1.
Escape character is '^]'.
EHLO
MAIL FROM: m...@gmail.com
RCPT TO: m...@gmail.com
DATA
testing from server
.
^]

So I go to this page and get an example of how to do this:
http://www.freebsdwiki.net/index.php/SMTP,_testing_via_Telnet
and follow the example:

[root@mydomain john]# telnet 127.0.0.1 25
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to 127.0.0.1.
Escape character is '^]'.
HELO justtesting
MAIL FROM: test...@gmail.com
RCPT TO: test...@gmail.com
DATA
To: test...@gmail.com
From: test...@gmail.com
Subject: testing
Date: Tu, Oct 2012 10:21:11 -0500
Testing
.
QUIT


So I go to this page and get an example of how to do this:
http://www.samlogic.net/articles/smtp-commands-reference.htm
and follow the example:

[root@mydomain john]# ps wax|grep smtp
18378 ?        S      0:00 smtpd -n smtp -t inet -u -s 2
26426 ?        S      0:00 smtpd -n 587 -t inet -u -s 2
30700 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep smtp
[root@mydomain john]# telnet 127.0.0.1 25
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to 127.0.0.1.
Escape character is '^]'.
EHLO mydomain.com
MAIL FROM: <test...@gmail.com>
RCPT TO: <test...@gmail.com>
DATA
testing
.
QUIT

As you can see, my smtp is up. However, all of these just leave the shell 
hanging. None of them echo back anything from telnet, as I've seen in examples, 
such as this echo:
ph34r# telnet localhost 25
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.localdomain.
Escape character is '^]'.
220  ESMTP

(That last line.) I've never gotten telnet to work. I've always just worked 
around it, but this time I want to check everything as I go along. Please 
advise.
TIA,
John
                                          
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