Andrew,

On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Andrew Woodward <xar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We already had a similar problem with stackforge/puppet-ceph and went
> around in circles for a while trying to account for the issue. We
> ultimately resulted in [1] to resolve the issue for us.
>
> [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197302/1/manifests/repo.pp

Yes, that was part of my motivation for re-opening this topic, and
wanting to reconsider adding "excludes" to .repo entries.  I still
wanted to find a way to not have to modify a different package's files
(e.g. epel-release owns epel.repo) though.  That's why I thought about
breaking it into two phases.

>
>
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 4:28 PM Pete Zaitcev <zait...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 16:12:59 -0700
>> Travis Rhoden <trho...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I’m working on ways to improve Ceph installation with ceph-deploy, and
>> > a common hurdle we have hit involves dependency issues between ceph.com
>> > hosted RPM repos, and packages within EPEL.  For a while we were able to
>> > managed this with the priorities plugin, but then EPEL shipped packages
>> > that included changes that weren’t available on the ceph.com packages,
>> > and the EPEL packages “obsoleted” the ceph.com ones. [...]
>>
>> This happens every time repos want to conflict with packages provided
>> by the base distro or EPEL. I think the only sensible way to manage it is
>> not to conflict and rely on the base packages. That means getting the right
>> versions in. In old EPEL/CentOS/RHEL this may mean versioned names or other
>> tricks, but the point is to get them in. You have access to experienced
>> packagers such as Haikel G., who can help you.
>>
>> So, I'm just curious, what are the specific pain points that we're hitting,
>> which prevent using EPEL packages? What are you duplicating and why?
>>
>> -- Pete
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