Yes, that's right. It would be nice if there was a mount option to have such 
parameters adjusted on a per-file system basis. I should mention that I 
observed a significant performance improvement for HDD throughput of the local 
disk as well when adjusting these parameters for ceph.

This is largely due to the "too much memory problem" on big servers. The kernel 
defaults are suitable for machines with 4-8G of RAM. Any enterprise server will 
beat that with the consequence of insanely large amounts of dirty buffers, 
leading to buffer flush panic overloading in particular, network file systems 
(there is a nice article by SUSE 
https://www.suse.com/support/kb/doc/?id=000017857). Adjusting these parameters 
to play nice with ceph might actually improve overall performance as a side 
effect. I would give it a go.

Best regards,
=================
Frank Schilder
AIT Risø Campus
Bygning 109, rum S14

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From: Sage Meng <lkke...@gmail.com>
Sent: 12 November 2020 16:00:08
To: Frank Schilder
Cc: ceph-users@ceph.io
Subject: Re: [ceph-users] Is there a way to make Cephfs kernel client to write 
data to ceph osd smoothly with buffer io

vm.dirty_bytes and vm.dirty_background_bytes  are all system-wide control 
parameters, it will influence all the system jobs by adjusting them. Better to 
have a Ceph Special way to  make the transfer more smoothly.

Frank Schilder <fr...@dtu.dk<mailto:fr...@dtu.dk>> 于2020年11月11日周三 下午3:28写道:
These kernel parameters influence the flushing of data, and also performance:

vm.dirty_bytes
vm.dirty_background_bytes

Smaller vm.dirty_background_bytes will make the transfer more smooth and the 
ceph cluster will like that. However, it reduces the chances of merge 
operations in cache and the ceph cluster will not like that. The tuning is 
heavily workload dependent. Test with realistic workloads and a reasonably 
large spectrum of values. I got good results by tuning down 
vm.dirty_background_bytes just to the point when it reduced client performance 
of copying large files.

Best regards,
=================
Frank Schilder
AIT Risø Campus
Bygning 109, rum S14

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From: Sage Meng <lkke...@gmail.com<mailto:lkke...@gmail.com>>
Sent: 06 November 2020 13:45:53
To: ceph-users@ceph.io<mailto:ceph-users@ceph.io>
Subject: [ceph-users] Is there a way to make Cephfs kernel client to write data 
to ceph osd smoothly with buffer io

Hi All,

      Cephfs kernel client is influenced by kernel page cache when we write
data to it,  outgoing data will be huge when os starts flush page cache.
So Is there a way to make Cephfs kernel client to write data to ceph osd
smoothly when buffer io is used ?
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