Is it possible to extend the block.db lv of that specific osd with
lvextend command or it needs some special bluestore extend?
I want to extend that lv with the size of the spillover, compact it
and migrate after.
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Istvan,
So things with migrations are clear at the moment, right? As I
mentioned the migrate command in 15.2.14 has a bug which causes
corrupted OSD if db->slow migration occurs on spilled over OSD. To
work around that you might want to migrate slow to db first or try
manual compaction. Please make sure there is no spilled over data left
after any of them via bluestore-tool's bluestore-bdev-sizes command
before proceeding with db->slow migrate...
just a side note - IMO it sounds a bit controversial that you're
expecting/experiencing better performance without standalone DB and at
the same time spillovers cause performance issues... Spillover means
some data goes to main device (which you're trying to achieve by
migrating as well) hence it would rather improve things... Or the root
cause of your performace issues is different... Just want to share my
thoughts - I don't have any better ideas about that so far...
Thanks,
Igor
On 10/12/2021 2:54 PM, Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) wrote:
I’m having 1 billions of objects in the cluster and we are still
increasing and faced spillovers allover the clusters.
After 15-18 spilledover osds (out of the 42-50) the osds started
to die, flapping.
Tried to compact manually the spilleovered ones, but didn’t help,
however the not spilled osds less frequently crashed.
In our design 3 ssd was used 1 nvme for db+wal, but this nvme has
30k iops on random write, however the ssds behind this nvme have
individually 67k so actually the SSDs are faster in write than the
nvme which means our config suboptimal.
I’ve decided to update the cluster to 15.2.14 to be able to run
this ceph-volume lvm migrate command and started to use it.
10-20% is the failed migration at the moment, 80-90% is successful.
I want to avoid this spillover in the future so I’ll use bare SSDs
as osds without wal+db. At the moment my iowait decreased a lot
without nvme drives, I just hope didn’t do anything wrong with
this migration right?
The failed ones I’m removing from the cluster and add it back
after cleaned up.
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You mean you run migrate for these 72 OSDs and all of them aren't
starting any more? Or you just upgraded them to Octopus and
experiencing performance issues.
In the latter case and if you have enough space at DB device you
might want to try to migrate data from slow to db first. Run fsck
(just in case) and then migrate from DB/WAl back to slow.
Theoretically this should help in avoiding the before-mentioned
bug. But I haven't try that personally...
And this wouldn't fix the corrupted OSDs if any though...
Thanks,
Igor
On 10/12/2021 2:36 PM, Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) wrote:
Omg, I’ve already migrated 24x osds in each dc-s (altogether 72).
What should I do then? 12 left (altogether 36). In my case
slow device is faster in random write iops than the one which
is serving it.
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Istvan,
you're bitten by
It's not fixed in 15.2.14. This has got a backport to
upcoming Octopus
minor release. Please do not use 'migrate' command from
WAL/DB to slow
volume if some data is already present there...
Thanks,
Igor
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Hi Igor,
I’ve attached here, thank you in advance.
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No,
that's just backtrace of the crash - I'd like to see
the full OSD log from the process startup till the
crash instead...
On 10/8/2021 4:02 PM, Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) wrote:
Hi Igor,
Here is a bluestore tool fsck output:
https://justpaste.it/7igrb <https://justpaste.it/7igrb>
Is this that you are looking for?
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Not sure dmcrypt is a culprit here.
Could you please set debug-bluefs to 20 and collect an
OSD startup log.
On 10/5/2021 4:43 PM, Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) wrote:
Hmm, tried another one which hasn’t been spilledover
disk, still coredumped ☹
Is there any special thing that we need to do before
we migrate db next to the block? Our osds are using
dmcrypt, is it an issue?
{
"backtrace": [
"(()+0x12b20) [0x7f310aa49b20]",
"(gsignal()+0x10f) [0x7f31096aa37f]",
"(abort()+0x127) [0x7f3109694db5]",
"(()+0x9009b) [0x7f310a06209b]",
"(()+0x9653c) [0x7f310a06853c]",
"(()+0x95559) [0x7f310a067559]",
"(__gxx_personality_v0()+0x2a8) [0x7f310a067ed8]",
"(()+0x10b03) [0x7f3109a48b03]",
"(_Unwind_RaiseException()+0x2b1)
[0x7f3109a49071]",
"(__cxa_throw()+0x3b) [0x7f310a0687eb]",
"(()+0x19fa4) [0x7f310b7b6fa4]",
"(tcmalloc::allocate_full_cpp_throw_oom(unsigned
long)+0x146) [0x7f310b7d8c96]",
"(()+0x10d0f8e) [0x55ffa520df8e]",
"(rocksdb::Version::~Version()+0x104)
[0x55ffa521d174]",
"(rocksdb::Version::Unref()+0x21)
[0x55ffa521d221]",
"(rocksdb::ColumnFamilyData::~ColumnFamilyData()+0x5a)
[0x55ffa52efcca]",
"(rocksdb::ColumnFamilySet::~ColumnFamilySet()+0x88)
[0x55ffa52f0568]",
"(rocksdb::VersionSet::~VersionSet()+0x5e)
[0x55ffa520e01e]",
"(rocksdb::VersionSet::~VersionSet()+0x11)
[0x55ffa520e261]",
"(rocksdb::DBImpl::CloseHelper()+0x616)
[0x55ffa5155ed6]",
"(rocksdb::DBImpl::~DBImpl()+0x83b)
[0x55ffa515c35b]",
"(rocksdb::DBImplReadOnly::~DBImplReadOnly()+0x11)
[0x55ffa51a3bc1]",
"(rocksdb::DB::OpenForReadOnly(rocksdb::DBOptions
const&, std::__cxx11::basic_string<char,
std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > const&,
std::vector<rocksdb::ColumnFamilyDescriptor,
std::allocator<rocksdb::ColumnFamilyDescriptor> >
const&, std::vector<rocksdb::ColumnFamilyHandle*,
std::allocator<rocksdb::ColumnFamilyHandle*> >*,
rocksdb::DB**, bool)+0x1089) [0x55ffa51a57e9]",
"(RocksDBStore::do_open(std::ostream&, bool,
bool, std::vector<KeyValueDB::ColumnFamily,
std::allocator<KeyValueDB::ColumnFamily> >
const*)+0x14ca) [0x55ffa51285ca]",
"(BlueStore::_open_db(bool, bool,
bool)+0x1314) [0x55ffa4bc27e4]",
"(BlueStore::_open_db_and_around(bool)+0x4c)
[0x55ffa4bd4c5c]",
"(BlueStore::_mount(bool, bool)+0x847)
[0x55ffa4c2e047]",
"(OSD::init()+0x380) [0x55ffa4753a70]",
"(main()+0x47f1) [0x55ffa46a6901]",
"(__libc_start_main()+0xf3) [0x7f3109696493]",
"(_start()+0x2e) [0x55ffa46d4e3e]"
],
"ceph_version": "15.2.14",
"crash_id":
"2021-10-05T13:31:28.513463Z_b6818598-4960-4ed6-942a-d4a7ff37a758",
"entity_name": "osd.48",
"os_id": "centos",
"os_name": "CentOS Linux",
"os_version": "8",
"os_version_id": "8",
"process_name": "ceph-osd",
"stack_sig":
"6a43b6c219adac393b239fbea4a53ff87c4185bcd213724f0d721b452b81ddbf",
"timestamp": "2021-10-05T13:31:28.513463Z",
"utsname_hostname": "server-2s07",
"utsname_machine": "x86_64",
"utsname_release": "4.18.0-305.19.1.el8_4.x86_64",
"utsname_sysname": "Linux",
"utsname_version": "#1 SMP Wed Sep 15 15:39:39 UTC
2021"
}
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The stack trace
(tcmalloc::allocate_full_cpp_throw_oom) seems
indicating you don’t have enough memory.
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Seems like it cannot start anymore once migrated ☹
https://justpaste.it/5hkot <https://justpaste.it/5hkot>
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Hi Istvan,
yeah both db and wal to slow migration are supported.
And spillover state isn't a show stopper for that.
On 10/2/2021 1:16 AM, Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) wrote:
Dear Igor,
Is the ceph-volume lvm migrate command smart enough in
octopus 15.2.14 to be able to remove the db (included
the wall) from the nvme even if it is spilledover? I
can’t compact back to normal many disk to not show
spillover warning.
I think Christian has the truth of the issue, my
Nvme with 30k rand write iops backing 3x ssd with 67k
rand write iops each …
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3x SSD osd /nvme
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And how many OSDs are per single NVMe do you have?
On 10/1/2021 9:55 AM, Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) wrote:
I have my dashboards and I can see that the db nvmes
are always running on 100% utilization (you can
monitor with iostat -x 1) and it generates all the
time iowaits which is between 1-3.
I’m using nvme in front of the ssds.
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Hi,
I'm curious - how did you tell that the separate
WAL+DB volume was slowing things down? I assume you
did some benchmarking - is there any chance you'd be
willing to share results? (Or anybody else that's been
in a similar situation).
What sorts of devices are you using for the WAL+DB,
versus the data disks?
We're using NAND SSDs, with Optanes for the WAL+DB,
and on some
systems I am seeing slowly than expected behaviour -
need to dive
deeper into it
In my case, I was running with 4 or 2 OSDs per Optane
volume:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ceph/comments/k2lef1/how_many_waldb_partition
<https://www.reddit.com/r/ceph/comments/k2lef1/how_many_waldb_partition>
s_can_you_run_per_optane/
but I couldn't seem to get the results I'd expected -
so curious what people are seeing in the real world -
and of course, we might need to follow the steps here
to remove them as well.
Thanks,
Victor
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Yes, I believe for you it should work without
containers although I
haven't tried the migrate command in a
non-containerized cluster yet.
But I believe this is a general issue for
containerized clusters with
regards to maintenance. I haven't checked yet if there
are existing
tracker issues for this, but maybe this should be
worth creating one?
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Actually I don't have containerized deployment, my is
normal one. So
it should work the lvm migrate.
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Subject: Re: is it possible to remove the db+wal from
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That's what I did and pasted the results in my
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Yes. And “cephadm shell” command does not depend on
the running
daemon, it will start a new container. So I think it
is perfectly
fine to stop the OSD first then run the “cephadm
shell” command, and
run ceph-volume in the new shell.
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主题: Re: is it possible to remove the db+wal from an
external device
(nvme)
The OSD has to be stopped in order to migrate DB/WAL,
it can't be
done live. ceph-volume requires a lock on the device.
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I’ve not tried it, but how about:
cephadm shell -n osd.0
then run “ceph-volume” commands in the newly opened
shell. The
directory structure seems fine.
$ sudo cephadm shell -n osd.0
Inferring fsid e88d509a-f6fc-11ea-b25d-a0423f3ac864
Inferring config
/var/lib/ceph/e88d509a-f6fc-11ea-b25d-a0423f3ac864/osd.0/config
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/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-0/ total 68
drwx------ 2 ceph ceph 4096 Sep 20 04:15 ./
drwxr-x--- 1 ceph ceph 4096 Sep 29 13:32 ../
lrwxrwxrwx 1 ceph ceph 24 Sep 20 04:15 block ->
/dev/ceph-hdd/osd.0.data
lrwxrwxrwx 1 ceph ceph 23 Sep 20 04:15 block.db ->
/dev/ubuntu-vg/osd.0.db
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph 37 Sep 20 04:15 ceph_fsid
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph 387 Jun 21 13:24 config
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph 37 Sep 20 04:15 fsid
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph 55 Sep 20 04:15 keyring
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph 6 Sep 20 04:15 ready
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph 3 Apr 2 01:46
require_osd_release
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph 10 Sep 20 04:15 type
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph 38 Sep 17 14:26 unit.configured
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph 48 Nov 9 2020 unit.created
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph 35 Sep 17 14:26 unit.image
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph 306 Sep 17 14:26 unit.meta
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph 1317 Sep 17 14:26 unit.poststop
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph 3021 Sep 17 14:26 unit.run
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph 142 Sep 17 14:26 unit.stop
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph 2 Sep 20 04:15 whoami
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主题: Re: [ceph-users] Re: 回复: [ceph-users] Re: is it
possible to
remove the db+wal from an external device (nvme)
Hi Igor,
thanks for your input. I haven't done this in a prod
env yet
either, still playing around in a virtual lab env.
I tried the symlink suggestion but it's not that easy,
because it
looks different underneath the ceph directory than
ceph-volume
expects it. These are the services underneath:
ses7-host1:~ # ll
/var/lib/ceph/152fd738-01bc-11ec-a7fd-fa163e672db2/
insgesamt 48
drwx------ 3 root root 4096 16. Sep 16:11
alertmanager.ses7-host1
drwx------ 3 ceph ceph 4096 29. Sep 09:03 crash
drwx------ 2 ceph ceph 4096 16. Sep 16:39
crash.ses7-host1
drwx------ 4 messagebus lp 4096 16. Sep 16:23
grafana.ses7-host1
drw-rw---- 2 root root 4096 24. Aug 10:00 home
drwx------ 2 ceph ceph 4096 16. Sep 16:37
mgr.ses7-host1.wmgyit
drwx------ 3 ceph ceph 4096 16. Sep 16:37
mon.ses7-host1
drwx------ 2 nobody nobody 4096 16. Sep 16:37
node-exporter.ses7-host1
drwx------ 2 ceph ceph 4096 29. Sep 08:43 osd.0
drwx------ 2 ceph ceph 4096 29. Sep 15:11 osd.1
drwx------ 4 root root 4096 16. Sep 16:12
prometheus.ses7-host1
While the directory in a non-containerized deployment
looks like this:
nautilus:~ # ll /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-0/ insgesamt 24
lrwxrwxrwx 1
ceph ceph 93 29. Sep 12:21 block ->
/dev/ceph-a6d78a29-637f-494b-a839-76251fcff67e/osd-block-39340a48-5
4b
3-4689-9896-f54d005c535d
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph 37 29. Sep 12:21 ceph_fsid
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph 37 29. Sep 12:21 fsid
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph 55 29. Sep 12:21 keyring
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph 6 29. Sep 12:21 ready
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph 10 29. Sep 12:21 type
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph 2 29. Sep 12:21 whoami
But even if I create the symlink to the osd directory
it fails
because I only have ceph-volume within the containers
where the
symlink is not visible to cephadm.
ses7-host1:~ # ll /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1 lrwxrwxrwx
1 root root
57 29. Sep 15:08 /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1 ->
/var/lib/ceph/152fd738-01bc-11ec-a7fd-fa163e672db2/osd.1/
ses7-host1:~ # cephadm ceph-volume lvm migrate --osd-id 1
--osd-fsid
b4c772aa-07f8-483d-ae58-0ab97b8d0cc4 --from db --target
ceph-b1ddff4b-95e8-4b91-b451-a3ea35d16ec0/osd-block-b4c772aa-07f8-4
83
d-ae58-0ab97b8d0cc4 Inferring fsid
152fd738-01bc-11ec-a7fd-fa163e672db2
[...]
/usr/bin/podman: stderr --> Migrate to existing, Source:
['--devs-source', '/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1/block.db']
Target:
/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1/block
/usr/bin/podman: stderr stdout: inferring bluefs
devices from
bluestore path
/usr/bin/podman: stderr stderr: can't migrate
/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1/block.db, not a valid bluefs
volume
/usr/bin/podman: stderr --> Failed to migrate device,
error code:1
/usr/bin/podman: stderr --> Undoing lv tag set
/usr/bin/podman: stderr Failed to migrate to :
ceph-b1ddff4b-95e8-4b91-b451-a3ea35d16ec0/osd-block-b4c772aa-07f8-4
83
d-ae58-0ab97b8d0cc4
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/sbin/cephadm", line 6225, in <module>
r = args.func()
File "/usr/sbin/cephadm", line 1363, in _infer_fsid
return func()
File "/usr/sbin/cephadm", line 1422, in _infer_image
return func()
File "/usr/sbin/cephadm", line 3687, in
command_ceph_volume
out, err, code = call_throws(c.run_cmd(),
verbosity=CallVerbosity.VERBOSE)
File "/usr/sbin/cephadm", line 1101, in call_throws
raise RuntimeError('Failed command: %s' % '
'.join(command))
[...]
I could install the package ceph-osd (where
ceph-volume is packaged
in) but it's not available by default (as you see this
is a SES 7
environment).
I'm not sure what the design is here, it feels like
the ceph-volume
migrate command is not applicable to containers yet.
Regards,
Eugen
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Hi Eugen,
indeed this looks like an issue related to containerized
deployment, "ceph-volume lvm migrate" expects osd
folder to be
under
/var/lib/ceph/osd:
stderr: 2021-09-29T06:56:24.787+0000 7fde05b96180 -1
bluestore(/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1) _lock_fsid failed
to lock
/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1/fsid (is another ceph-osd still
running?)(11) Resource temporarily unavailable
As a workaround you might want to try to create a
symlink to your
actual location before issuing the migrate command:
/var/lib/ceph/osd ->
/var/lib/ceph/152fd738-01bc-11ec-a7fd-fa163e672db2/
More complicated (and more general IMO) way would be
to run the
migrate command from within a container deployed
similarly (i.e.
with all the proper subfolder mappings) to ceph-osd
one. Just
speculating - not a big expert in containers and never
tried that
with properly deployed production cluster...
Thanks,
Igor
On 9/29/2021 10:07 AM, Eugen Block wrote:
Hi,
I just tried with 'ceph-volume lvm migrate' in Octopus
but it
doesn't really work. I'm not sure if I'm missing
something here,
but I believe it's again the already discussed
containers issue.
To be able to run the command for an OSD the OSD has to be
offline, but then you don't have access to the
block.db because
the path is different from outside the container:
---snip---
[ceph: root@host1 /]# ceph-volume lvm migrate --osd-id 1
--osd-fsid
b4c772aa-07f8-483d-ae58-0ab97b8d0cc4 --from db --target
ceph-b1ddff4b-95e8-4b91-b451-a3ea35d16ec0/osd-block-b4c772aa-07f8
-4
83d-ae58-0ab97b8d0cc4 --> Migrate to existing, Source:
['--devs-source', '/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1/block.db']
Target:
/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1/block
stdout: inferring bluefs devices from bluestore path
stderr:
/home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/ceph-15.2.14-84-gb6e5642e260/src/os/b
lu
estore/BlueStore.cc: In function 'int
BlueStore::_mount_for_bluefs()' thread
7fde05b96180
time
2021-09-29T06:56:24.790161+0000
stderr:
/home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/ceph-15.2.14-84-gb6e5642e260/src/os/b
lu
estore/BlueStore.cc: 6876: FAILED ceph_assert(r ==
0)
stderr: 2021-09-29T06:56:24.787+0000 7fde05b96180 -1
bluestore(/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1) _lock_fsid failed
to lock
/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1/fsid (is another ceph-osd still
running?)(11) Resource temporarily unavailable
# path outside
host1:~ # ll
/var/lib/ceph/152fd738-01bc-11ec-a7fd-fa163e672db2/osd.1/
insgesamt 60
lrwxrwxrwx 1 ceph ceph 93 29. Sep 08:43 block ->
/dev/ceph-b1ddff4b-95e8-4b91-b451-a3ea35d16ec0/osd-block-b4c772aa-07f8-483d-ae58-0ab97b8d0cc4
lrwxrwxrwx 1 ceph ceph 90 29. Sep 08:43 block.db ->
/dev/ceph-6f1b8f49-daf2-4631-a2ef-12e9452b01ea/osd-db-69b11aa0-af
96
-443e-8f03-5afa5272131f
---snip---
But if I shutdown the OSD I can't access the block and
block.db
devices. I'm not even sure how this is supposed to
work with
cephadm. Maybe I'm misunderstanding, though. Or is
there a way to
provide the offline block.db path to 'ceph-volume lvm
migrate'?
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You may need to use `ceph-volume lvm migrate’ [1]
instead of
ceph-bluestore-tool. If I recall correctly, this is a
pretty new
feature, I’m not sure whether it is available to your
version.
If you use ceph-bluestore-tool, then you need to
modify the LVM
tags manually. Please refer to the previous threads,
e.g. [2]
and some more.
[1]:
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主题: [ceph-users] Re: is it possible to remove the
db+wal from an
external device (nvme)
Gave a try of it, so all the 3 osds finally failed :/
Not sure
what went wrong.
Do the normal maintenance things, ceph osd set noout,
ceph osd
set norebalance, stop the osd and run this command:
ceph-bluestore-tool bluefs-bdev-migrate --dev-target
/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-0/block --devs-source
/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-8/block.db --path
/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-8/
Output:
device removed:1 /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-8/block.db
device added:
1
/dev/dm-2
When tried to start I got this in the log:
osd.8 0 OSD:init: unable to mount object store
** ERROR: osd init failed: (13) Permission denied set
uid:gid
to
167:167 (ceph:ceph) ceph version 15.2.13
(c44bc49e7a57a87d84dfff2a077a2058aa2172e2)
octopus (stable), process ceph-osd, pid 1512261
pidfile_write: ignore empty --pid-file
From the another 2 osds the block.db removed and I can
start it back.
I've zapped the db drive just to be removed from the
device
completely and after machine restart none of these 2
osds came
back, I guess missing the db device.
Is there any steps missing?
1.Noout+norebalance
2. Stop osd
3. migrate with the above command the block.db to the
block.
4. do on the other osds which is sharing the same db
device that
want to remove.
5. zap the db device
6. start back the osds.
Istvan Szabo
Senior Infrastructure Engineer
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Subject: [ceph-users] Re: is it possible to remove the
db+wal
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Hi,
I think 'ceph-bluestore-tool bluefs-bdev-migrate'
could be of
use here. I haven't tried it in a production
environment yet,
only in virtual labs.
Regards,
Eugen
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Hi,
Seems like in our config the nvme device as a wal+db
in front
of the ssd slowing down the ssds osds.
I'd like to avoid to rebuild all the osd-, is there a way
somehow migrate to the "slower device" the wal+db
without reinstall?
Ty
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