Hey,

my cluster is only a test installation, to generally verify a rgw multisite 
design, so there is no production data on it.
Therefore my “solution” was to create a rgw s3 user without a tenant, so 
instead of
radosgw-admin user create –tenant=test --uid=test --display-name=test 
--access_key=123 --secret_key=123 --rgw_realm internal

I created a user like this:
radosgw-admin user create --uid=test2 --display-name=test2 --access_key=1234 
--secret_key=1234 --rgw_realm internal


That worked for me, to verify the problem. Unfortunately this is most likely 
not going to be a solution for you.
And it isn’t for me either. But knowing this in my test-setup, I can take 
precautions for the production installation, and install that with v16 release, 
instead.
I’ll probably verify that this is fixed in the latest v16 release, too, before 
installing production clusters.

Best, Julian

Von: Te Mule <twl...@gmail.com>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. März 2022 10:26
An: Poß, Julian <julian.p...@cgm.com>
Cc: Eugen Block <ebl...@nde.ag>; ceph-users@ceph.io
Betreff: Re: [ceph-users] Multisite sync issue

Hi Julian:

Could you share your solution for this? We are also trying to find out a 
solution for this.

Thanks


在 2022年3月1日,下午5:18,Poß, Julian 
<julian.p...@cgm.com<mailto:julian.p...@cgm.com>> 写道:

Thanks a ton for pointing this out.
Just verified this with a rgw user without tenant, works perfectly as you would 
expect.
I guess I could have suspected that tenants have something to do with it, since 
I spotted issues with them in the past, too.
Anyways, I got my “solution”. Thanks again!

Best, Julian

Von: Mule Te (TWL007) <twl...@gmail.com<mailto:twl...@gmail.com>>
Gesendet: Freitag, 25. Februar 2022 19:45
An: Poß, Julian <julian.p...@cgm.com<mailto:julian.p...@cgm.com>>
Cc: Eugen Block <ebl...@nde.ag<mailto:ebl...@nde.ag>>; 
ceph-users@ceph.io<mailto:ceph-users@ceph.io>
Betreff: Re: [ceph-users] Multisite sync issue

We have the same issue on Ceph 15.2.15.

In the testing cluster, seem like Ceph 16 solved this issue. The PR 
https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/41316 seem to remove this issue, but I do not 
know why it does not merge back to Ceph 15.

Also here is a new issue in Ceph tracker describes the same issue you have: 
https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/53737

Thanks



On Feb 25, 2022, at 10:07 PM, Poß, Julian 
<julian.p...@cgm.com<mailto:julian.p...@cgm.com>> wrote:

As far as i can tell, it can be reproduced every time, yes.

That statement was actually about two RGW in one zone. That is also something 
that I tested.
Because I felt like ceph should be able to handle that ha-like on its own.

But for the main issue, there is indeed only one rgw in each zone running.
Well as far as I can tell, I see no issues others than what I posted in my 
initial mail.

Best, Julian

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Gesendet: Freitag, 25. Februar 2022 12:57
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Betreff: [ceph-users] Re: WG: Multisite sync issue

I see, then I misread your statement about multiple RGWs:



It also worries me that replication won't work with multiple rgws in
one zone, but one of them being unavailable, for instance during
maintenance.

Is there anything else than the RGW logs pointing to any issues? I find it 
strange that after a restart of the RGW fixes it. Is this always reproducable?

Zitat von "Poß, Julian" <julian.p...@cgm.com<mailto:julian.p...@cgm.com>>:



Hi Eugen,

there is currently only one RGW installed for each region+realm.
So the places to look at are already pretty much limited.

As of now, the RGWs itself are the endpoints. So far no loadbalancer
has been put into place there.

Best, Julian

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Hi,

I would stop alle RGWs except one in each cluster to limit the places
and logs to look at. Do you have a loadbalancer as endpoint or do you
have a list of all RGWs as endpoints?


Zitat von "Poß, Julian" <julian.p...@cgm.com<mailto:julian.p...@cgm.com>>:



Hi,

i did setup multisite with 2 ceph clusters and multiple rgw's and
realms/zonegroups.
This setup was installed using ceph ansible branch "stable-5.0", with
focal+octopus.
During some testing, i noticed that somehow the replication seems to
not work as expected.

With s3cmd, i put a small file of 1.9 kb into a bucket on the master
zone s3cmd put /etc/hosts s3://test/

Then i can see at the output of "radosgw-admin sync status
--rgw_realm internal", that the cluster has indeed to sync something,
and switching back to "nothing to sync" after a couple of seconds.
"radosgw-admin sync error list --rgw_realm internal" is emtpy, too.
However, if i look via s3cmd on the secondary zone, i can't see the
file. Even if i look at the ceph pools directly, the data didn't get
replicated.
If i proceed by uploading the file again, with the same command and
without a change, basically just updating it, or by restarting rgw
deamon of the secondary zone, the affected file gets replicated.

I spotted this issue with all my realms/zonegroups. But even with
"debug_rgw = 20" and debug_rgw_sync = "20" i can't spot any obvious
errors in the logs.

It also worries me that replication won't work with multiple rgws in
one zone, but one of them being unavailable, for instance during
maintenance.
I did somehow expect ceph to work it's way though the list of
available endpoints, and only fail if none are available.
...Or am I missing something here?

Any help whatsoever is very much appreciated.
I am pretty new to multisite and stuck on this for a couple of days
now already.

Thanks, Julian


Here is some additional information, including some log snippets:

# ON Master site, i can see the file in the bilog right away
radosgw-admin bilog list --bucket test/test --rgw_realm internal
               {
       "op_id": "3#00000000001.445.5",
       "op_tag": "b9794e07-8f6c-4c45-a981-a73c3a4dc863.8360.106",
       "op": "write",
       "object": "hosts",
       "instance": "",
       "state": "complete",
       "index_ver": 1,
       "timestamp": "2022-02-24T09:14:41.957638774Z",
       "ver": {
           "pool": 7,
           "epoch": 2
       },
       "bilog_flags": 0,
       "versioned": false,
       "owner": "",
       "owner_display_name": "",
       "zones_trace": [
           {
               "entry":
"b9794e07-8f6c-4c45-a981-a73c3a4dc863:test/test:b9794e07-8f6c-4c45-a981-a73c3a4dc863.8366.3"
           }
       ]
   },


# RGW log of secondary zone shows the sync attempt:
2022-02-24T09:14:52.502+0000 7f1419ff3700  0
RGW-SYNC:data:sync:shard[72]:entry[test/test:b9794e07-8f6c-4c45-a981-
a
73c3a4dc863.8366.3:3]: triggering sync of source bucket/shard
test/test:b9794e07-8f6c-4c45-a981-a73c3a4dc863.8366.3:3

# but the secondary zone, doesnt actually show the new file in the
bilog radosgw-admin bilog list --bucket test/test --rgw_realm
internal

# and the shard log that according to the logfile had the data to
sync in it, doesn't seem to even exist at the secondary zone
radosgw-admin datalog list --shard-id 72 --rgw_realm internal
ERROR: list_bi_log_entries(): (2) No such file or directory


# RGW Log at master zone, there is one 404 in there which worries me
a bit
2022-02-24T09:14:52.515+0000 7ff5816e2700  1 beast: 0x7ff6387f77c0:
192.168.85.71 - - [2022-02-24T09:14:52.515949+0000] "GET
/admin/log/?type=bucket-index&bucket-instance=test%2Ftest%3Ab9794e07-
8
f6c-4c45-a981-a73c3a4dc863.8366.3%3A3&info&rgwx-zonegroup=7d35d818-08
8
1-483a-b1bf-47ec21f26609 HTTP/1.1" 200 94 - -
-
2022-02-24T09:14:52.527+0000 7ff512604700  1 beast: 0x7ff6386747c0:
192.168.85.71 - - [2022-02-24T09:14:52.527950+0000] "GET
/test?rgwx-bucket-instance=test%2Ftest%3Ab9794e07-8f6c-4c45-a981-a73c
3
a4dc863.8366.3%3A3&versions&format=json&objs-container=true&key-marke
r
&version-id-marker&rgwx-zonegroup=7d35d818-0881-483a-b1bf-47ec21f2660
9
HTTP/1.1" 404 146 - -
-
2022-02-24T09:14:52.535+0000 7ff559e93700  1 beast: 0x7ff6386747c0:
192.168.85.71 - - [2022-02-24T09:14:52.535950+0000] "GET
/admin/log?bucket-instance=test%2Ftest%3Ab9794e07-8f6c-4c45-a981-a73c
3
a4dc863.8366.3%3A3&format=json&marker=00000000001.445.5&type=bucket-i
n
dex&rgwx-zonegroup=7d35d818-0881-483a-b1bf-47ec21f26609 HTTP/1.1" 200
2 - -
-



# if i update the file, by reuploading it, or restart the rgw deamon
of the secondary zone, the affected file gets synced s3cmd put
/etc/hosts s3://test/

# again, there is the sync attempt from the secondary zone rgw
2022-02-24T12:04:52.452+0000 7f1419ff3700  0
RGW-SYNC:data:sync:shard[72]:entry[test/test:b9794e07-8f6c-4c45-a981-
a
73c3a4dc863.8366.3:3]: triggering sync of source bucket/shard
test/test:b9794e07-8f6c-4c45-a981-a73c3a4dc863.8366.3:3

# But now the file does show in bilog, and data log radosgw-admin
bilog list --bucket test/test --rgw_realm internal {
       "op_id": "3#00000000001.456.5",
       "op_tag": "_e1zRfGuaFH7mLumu1gapeLzHo9zYU6M",
       "op": "write",
       "object": "hosts",
       "instance": "",
       "state": "complete",
       "index_ver": 1,
       "timestamp": "2022-02-24T12:04:38.405141253Z",
       "ver": {
           "pool": 7,
           "epoch": 2
       },
       "bilog_flags": 0,
       "versioned": false,
       "owner": "",
       "owner_display_name": "",
       "zones_trace": [
           {
               "entry":
"b9794e07-8f6c-4c45-a981-a73c3a4dc863:test/test:b9794e07-8f6c-4c45-a981-a73c3a4dc863.8366.3"
           },
           {
               "entry":
"e00c182b-27dc-4500-ad5b-77719f615d76:test/test:b9794e07-8f6c-4c45-a981-a73c3a4dc863.8366.3"
           },
           {
               "entry":
"e00c182b-27dc-4500-ad5b-77719f615d76:test/test:b9794e07-8f6c-4c45-a981-a73c3a4dc863.8366.3:3"
           }
       ]
   }

radosgw-admin datalog list --shard-id 72 --rgw_realm internal
   {
       "entity_type": "bucket",
       "key": "test/test:b9794e07-8f6c-4c45-a981-a73c3a4dc863.8366.3:3",
       "timestamp": "2022-02-24T12:04:52.522177Z"
   }



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