Hi Felix,

With `ceph balancer off` the upmap balancer will not move any PGs around.

https://docs.ceph.com/en/latest/rados/operations/balancer/

Cheers, Dan

On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 1:20 PM Stolte, Felix <f.sto...@fz-juelich.de> wrote:
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> thanks for your reply. I wasn’t worried about the setting itself, but about 
> the balancer starting to use the pg-upmap feature (which currently fails, 
> because of the jewel setting). I would assume though, that the balancer is 
> using pg-upmap in a throttled way to avoid performance issues.
>
> I will execute the command on the weekend, just to be safe.
>
> Best regards
> Felix
>
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> Am 30.11.2022 um 12:48 schrieb Dan van der Ster <dvand...@gmail.com>:
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> Hi Felix,
>
> This change won't trigger any rebalancing. It will prevent older clients from 
> connecting, but since this isn't a crush tunable it won't directly affect 
> data placement.
>
> Best,
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2022, 12:33 Stolte, Felix <f.sto...@fz-juelich.de> wrote:
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> our ceph cluster is on pacific, but started on jewel years ago. While i was 
>> going through the logs of the mrg daemon i stumbled about the following 
>> entry:
>>
>> =========
>> [balancer ERROR root] execute error: r = -1, detail = min_compat_client 
>> jewel < luminous, which is required for pg-upmap. Try 'ceph osd 
>> set-require-min-compat-client luminous' before using the new interface
>> =========
>>
>> I could confirm that with `ceph osd get-require-min-compat-client` my value 
>> is still value. Reading the docs it looks to me, we really want to set this 
>> to luminous to benefit from a better pg distribution. My question for you is 
>> the following:
>>
>> Do I have to expect a major rebalancing after applying the 'ceph osd 
>> set-require-min-compat-client luminous‘  command, affecting my cluster IO?
>>
>> All my daemons are on pacific and all clients at least on nautilus.
>>
>> Thanks in advance and best regards
>> Felix
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