I hope we don't backport such a big change to Quincy. That will have a
large impact on how we build in restricted environments with no
internet access.

We could get the missing packages into EPEL.

- Ken

On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 7:32 AM Ernesto Puerta <epuer...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Casey,
>
> The original idea was to leave this to Reef alone, but given that the CentOS 
> 9 Quincy release is also blocked by missing Python packages, I think that 
> it'd make sense to backport it.
>
> I'm coordinating with Pere (in CC) to expedite this. We may need help to 
> troubleshoot Shaman/rpmbuild issues. Who would be the best one to help with 
> that?
>
> Regarding your last question, I don't know who's the maintainer of those 
> packages in EPEL. There's this BZ (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2166620) 
> requesting that specific package, but that's only one out of the dozen of 
> missing packages (plus transitive dependencies)...
>
> Kind Regards,
> Ernesto
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 2:19 PM Casey Bodley <cbod...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> hi Ernesto and lists,
>>
>> > [1] https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/47501
>>
>> are we planning to backport this to quincy so we can support centos 9
>> there? enabling that upgrade path on centos 9 was one of the
>> conditions for dropping centos 8 support in reef, which i'm still keen
>> to do
>>
>> if not, can we find another resolution to
>> https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/58832? as i understand it, all of
>> those python packages exist in centos 8. do we know why they were
>> dropped for centos 9? have we looked into making those available in
>> epel? (cc Ken and Kaleb)
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 12:01 PM Ernesto Puerta <epuer...@redhat.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Kevin,
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Isn't this one of the reasons containers were pushed, so that the 
>> >> packaging isn't as big a deal?
>> >
>> >
>> > Yes, but the Ceph community has a strong commitment to provide distro 
>> > packages for those users who are not interested in moving to containers.
>> >
>> >> Is it the continued push to support lots of distros without using 
>> >> containers that is the problem?
>> >
>> >
>> > If not a problem, it definitely makes it more challenging. Compiled 
>> > components often sort this out by statically linking deps whose packages 
>> > are not widely available in distros. The approach we're proposing here 
>> > would be the closest equivalent to static linking for interpreted code 
>> > (bundling).
>> >
>> > Thanks for sharing your questions!
>> >
>> > Kind regards,
>> > Ernesto
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