On 11/10/23 00:18, Frank Schilder wrote:
Hi Xiubo,

I will try to answer questions from all your 3 e-mails here together with some 
new information we have.

New: The problem occurs in newer python versions when using the shutil.copy function. There is also 
a function shutil.copy2 for which the problem does not show up. Copy2 behaves a bit like "cp 
-p" while copy is like "cp". The only code difference (linux) between these 2 
functions is that copy calls copyfile+copymode while copy2 calls copyfile+copystat. For now we 
asked our users to use copy2 to avoid the issue.

The copyfile function calls _fastcopy_sendfile on linux, which in turn calls 
os.sendfile, which seems to be part of libc:

#include <sys/sendfile.h>
ssize_t sendfile(int out_fd, int in_fd, off_t *offset, size_t count);

I'm wondering if using this function requires explicit meta-data updates or 
should be safe on ceph-fs. I'm also not sure if a user-space client even 
supports this function (seems to be meaningless). Should this function be safe 
to use on ceph kclient?

I didn't foresee any limit for this in kclient.

The shutil.copy will only copy the contents of the file, while the shutil.copy2 will also copy the metadata. I need to know what exactly they do in kclient for shutil.copy and shutil.copy2.

Answers to questions:

BTW, have you test the ceph-fuse with the same test ? Is also the same ?
I don't have fuse clients available, so can't test right now.

Have you tried other ceph version ?
We are in the process of deploying a new test cluster, the old one is scrapped 
already. I can't test this at the moment.

It looks like the cap update request was dropped to the ground in MDS.
[...]
If you can reproduce it, then please provide the mds logs by setting:
[...]
I can do a test with MDS logs on high level. Before I do that, looking at the 
python findings above, is this something that should work on ceph or is it a 
python issue?

Not sure yet. I need to understand what exactly shutil.copy does in kclient.

Thanks

- Xiubo




Thanks for your help!
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Frank Schilder
AIT Risø Campus
Bygning 109, rum S14


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