I was about to write something similar yesterday, but work interfered. ^o^

For bandwidth a RAID(Z*/6, don't even think about RAID5 or equivalent) is
indeed very nice, but for IOPS it will be worse than a RAID10.

Of course a controller with a large writeback cache can pretty alleviate
or at least hide those issues up to a point. ^.^

On Wed, 28 May 2014 07:22:22 -0700 Scott Laird wrote:

> IMHO, you were probably either benchmarking the wrong thing or had a
> really unusual use profile.  RAIDZ* always does full-stripe reads so it
> can verify checksums, so even small reads hit all of the devices in the
> vdev.  That means that you get 0 parallelism on small reads, unlike most
> other RAID5+ systems where disks can read independently.  So, with an
> 8-disk RAIDZ (RAIDZ2, RAIDZ3...) setup, you'll only get 1 disk worth of
> read IOPS, instead of 6-8 disks worth.  That's a pretty massive hit.
> 
> The bandwidth, availability, and general hassle of RAIDZ2 is nice,
> though.
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Craig Lewis
> <cle...@centraldesktop.com>wrote:
> 
> >  On 5/27/14 13:40 , phowell wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > First apologies if this is the wrong place to ask this question.
> >
> > We are running a small Ceph (0.79) cluster will about 12 osd's which
> > are on top of a zfs raid 1+0 (for another discussion)... which were
> > created on this version.
> >
> >
> > Just a reminder to benchmark everything, especially things you have
> > known to be true since the dawn of time.  I benchmarked RAID10 vs.
> > RAID5 so long ago, I had to find a 3.5" floppy to open the spreadsheet.
> >
> >
> > Recently, I was testing ZFS on software encrypted volumes, and wanted
> > to see how badly it would impact a PostgreSQL server.  My test setup
> > was using RAIDZ2, so I just ran the benchmark on that zpool.
> >
> > Imagine my surprise when an untuned and encrypted RAIDZ2 posted better
> > benchmarks than a tuned ZFS RAID10.
> >
> >
> > I really think the "RAID5 is bad for performance" is a nasty hold-over
> > from when parity calculations needed dedicated hardware.  I won't be
> > building any more ZFS RAID10 arrays.
> >
> >
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