Is there a recommended way to take every thing down and restart the process? I 
was considering starting completely from scratch ie OS reinstall and then using 
Ceph-deploy as before. 
I've learned a lot and want to figure out a fool proof way I can document for 
others in our lab to bring up a cluster on new HW.  I learn a lot more when I 
break things and have to figure out what went wrong so its a little 
frustrating, but I've found out a lot about verifying the configuration and 
debug options so far. My intent is to investigate rbd usage, perf, and 
configuration options. 

The "endless loop" I'm referring to is a constant stream of fault messages that 
I'm not yet familiar on how to interpret. I have let them run to see if the 
cluster recovers, but Ceph-mon always crashed. I'll look for the crash dump and 
save it since kdump should be enabled on the monitor box. 

Thanks for the feedback. 


> On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:30 AM, "Sage Weil" <sw...@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bruce,
> 
>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2014, Bruce McFarland wrote:
>> Yes I looked at tcpdump on each of the OSDs and saw communications between
>> all 3 OSDs before I sent my first question to this list. When I disabled
>> selinux on the one offending server based on your feedback (typically we
>> have this disabled on lab systems that are only on the lab net) the 10 pages
>> in my test pool all went to ?active+clean? almost immediately. Unfortunately
>> the 3 default pools still remain in the creating states and are not
>> health_ok. The OSDs all stayed UP/IN after the selinux change for the rest
>> of the day until I made the mistake of creating a RBD image on demo-pool and
>> it?s 10 ?active+clean? pages. I created the rbd, but when I attempted to
>> look at it with ?rbd info? the cluster went into an endless loop  trying to
>> read a placement group and loop that I left running overnight. This morning
> 
> What do you mean by "went into an endless loop"?
> 
>> ceph-mon was crashed again. I?ll probably start all over from scratch once
>> again on Monday.
> 
> Was there a stack dump in the mon log?
> 
> It is possible that there is a bug with pool creation that surfaced 
> by having selinux in place for so long, but otherwise this scenario 
> doesn't make much sense to me.  :/  Very interested in hearing more, 
> and/or whether you can reproduce it.
> 
> Thanks!
> sage
> 
> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I deleted ceph-mds and got rid of the ?laggy? comments from ?ceph health?.
>> The ?official? online Ceph docs on that ?coming soon? and most references I
>> could find were pre firefly so it was a little trail and error to figure out
>> to use the pool number and not it?s name to get the removal to work. Same
>> with ?ceph mds newfs? to get rid of ?laggy-ness? in the ?ceph health?
>> output.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> [root@essperf3 Ceph]# ceph mds rm 0  mds.essperf3
>> 
>> mds gid 0 dne
>> 
>> [root@essperf3 Ceph]# ceph health
>> 
>> HEALTH_WARN 96 pgs incomplete; 96 pgs peering; 192 pgs stuck inactive; 192
>> pgs stuck unclean mds essperf3 is laggy
>> 
>> [root@essperf3 Ceph]# ceph mds newfs 1 0  --yes-i-really-mean-it
>> 
>> new fs with metadata pool 1 and data pool 0
>> 
>> [root@essperf3 Ceph]# ceph health
>> 
>> HEALTH_WARN 96 pgs incomplete; 96 pgs peering; 192 pgs stuck inactive; 192
>> pgs stuck unclean
>> 
>> [root@essperf3 Ceph]#
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Brian Rak [mailto:b...@gameservers.com]
>> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 6:14 PM
>> To: Bruce McFarland; ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
>> Subject: Re: [ceph-users] Firefly OSDs stuck in creating state forever
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> What happens if you remove nodown?  I'd be interested to see what OSDs it
>> thinks are down. My next thought would be tcpdump on the private interface. 
>> See if the OSDs are actually managing to connect to each other.
>> 
>> For comparison, when I bring up a cluster of 3 OSDs it goes to HEALTH_OK
>> nearly instantly (definitely under a minute!), so it's probably not just
>> taking awhile.
>> 
>> Does 'ceph osd dump' show the proper public and private IPs?
>> 
>> On 8/1/2014 6:13 PM, Bruce McFarland wrote:
>> 
>>      MDS: I assumed that I?d need to bring up a ceph-mds for my
>>      cluster at initial bringup. We also intended to modify the CRUSH
>>      map such that it?s pool is resident to SSD(s). It is one of the
>>      areas of the online docs there doesn?t seem to be a lot of info
>>      on and I haven?t spent a lot of time researching. I?ll stop it.
>> 
>>       
>> 
>>      OSD connectivity:  The connectivity is good for both 1GE and
>>      10GE. I thought moving to 10GE with nothing else on that net
>>      might help with group placement etc and bring up the pages
>>      quicker. I?ve checked ?tcpdump? output on all boxes.
>> 
>>      Firewall: Thanks for that one - it?s the ?basic? I over looked
>>      in my ceph learning curve. One of the OSDs had selinux=enforcing
>>      ? all others were disabled. Changing that box and the 10 pages
>>      in my demo-pool (kept page count very small for sanity) are now
>>      ?active+clean?. The pages for the default pools ? data,
>>      metadata, rbd ? are still stuck in  creating+peering or
>>      creating+incomplete. I did have to use manually set ?osd pool
>>      default min size = 1? from it?s default of 2  for these 3 pools
>>      to eliminate a bunch of warnings in the ?ceph health detail?
>>      output.
>> 
>>      I?m adding the [mon] setting  you suggested below and stopping
>>      ceph-mds and bringing everything up now.
>> 
>>      [root@essperf3 Ceph]# ceph -s
>> 
>>          cluster 4b3ffe60-73f4-4512-b7da-b04e4775dd73
>> 
>>           health HEALTH_WARN 96 pgs incomplete; 96 pgs peering; 192
>>      pgs stuck inactive; 192 pgs stuck unclean; 28 requests are
>>      blocked > 32 sec; nodown,noscrub flag(s) set
>> 
>>           monmap e1: 1 mons at {essperf3=209.243.160.35:6789/0},
>>      election epoch 1, quorum 0 essperf3
>> 
>>           mdsmap e43: 1/1/1 up {0=essperf3=up:creating}
>> 
>>           osdmap e752: 3 osds: 3 up, 3 in
>> 
>>                  flags nodown,noscrub
>> 
>>            pgmap v1483: 202 pgs, 4 pools, 0 bytes data, 0 objects
>> 
>>                  134 MB used, 1158 GB / 1158 GB avail
>> 
>>                        96 creating+peering
>> 
>>                        10 active+clean
>>      <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<!!!!!!!!
>> 
>>                        96 creating+incomplete
>> 
>>      [root@essperf3 Ceph]#
>> 
>>       
>> 
>>      From: Brian Rak [mailto:b...@gameservers.com]
>>      Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 2:54 PM
>>      To: Bruce McFarland; ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
>>      Subject: Re: [ceph-users] Firefly OSDs stuck in creating state
>>      forever
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Why do you have a MDS active?  I'd suggest getting rid of that at
>> least until you have everything else working.
>> 
>> I see you've set nodown on the OSDs, did you have problems with the
>> OSDs flapping?  Do the OSDs have broken connectivity between
>> themselves?  Do you have some kind of firewall interfering here?
>> 
>> I've seen odd issues when the OSDs have broken private networking,
>> you'll get one OSD marking all the other ones down.  Adding this to my
>> config helped:
>> 
>> [mon]
>> mon osd min down reporters = 2
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/1/2014 5:41 PM, Bruce McFarland wrote:
>> 
>>      Hello,
>> 
>>      I?ve run out of ideas and assume I?ve overlooked something
>>      very basic. I?ve created 2 ceph clusters in the last 2
>>      weeks with different OSD HW and private network fabrics ?
>>      1GE and 10GE. I have never been  able to get the OSDs to
>>      come up to the ?active+clean? state. I have followed your
>>      online documentation and at this point the only thing I
>>      don?t think I?ve done is modifying the CRUSH map (although
>>      I have been looking into that). These are new clusters
>>      with no data and only 1 HDD and 1 SSD per OSD (24 2.5Ghz
>>      cores with 64GB RAM).
>> 
>>       
>> 
>>      Since the disks are being recycled is there something I
>>      need to flag to let ceph just create it?s mappings, but
>>      not scrub for data compatibility? I?ve tried setting the
>>      noscrub flag to no effect.
>> 
>>       
>> 
>>      I also have constant OSD flapping. I?ve set nodown, but
>>      assume that is just masking a problem that still
>>      occurring.
>> 
>>       
>> 
>>      Besides the lack of ever reaching ?active+clean? state
>>      ceph-mon always crashes after leaving it running
>>      overnight. The OSDs all eventually fill /root with with
>>      ceph logs so I regularly have to bring everything down
>>      Delete logs and restart.
>> 
>>       
>> 
>>      I have all sorts of output from the ceph.conf; osd boot
>>      ouput with ?debug osd -= 20? and ?debug ms = 1?; ceph ?w
>>      output; and pretty much all of the debug/monitoring
>>      suggestions from the online docs and 2 weeks of google
>>      searches from online references in blogs, mailing lists
>>      etc.
>> 
>>       
>> 
>>      [root@essperf3 Ceph]# ceph -v
>> 
>>      ceph version 0.80.1
>>      (a38fe1169b6d2ac98b427334c12d7cf81f809b74)
>> 
>>      [root@essperf3 Ceph]# ceph -s
>> 
>>          cluster 4b3ffe60-73f4-4512-b7da-b04e4775dd73
>> 
>>           health HEALTH_WARN 96 pgs incomplete; 106 pgs
>>      peering; 202 pgs stuck inactive; 202 pgs stuck unclean;
>>      nodown,noscrub flag(s) set
>> 
>>           monmap e1: 1 mons at
>>      {essperf3=209.243.160.35:6789/0}, election epoch 1, quorum
>>      0 essperf3
>> 
>>           mdsmap e43: 1/1/1 up {0=essperf3=up:creating}
>> 
>>           osdmap e752: 3 osds: 3 up, 3 in
>> 
>>                  flags nodown,noscrub
>> 
>>            pgmap v1476: 202 pgs, 4 pools, 0 bytes data, 0
>>      objects
>> 
>>                  134 MB used, 1158 GB / 1158 GB avail
>> 
>>                       106 creating+peering
>> 
>>                        96 creating+incomplete
>> 
>>      [root@essperf3 Ceph]#
>> 
>>       
>> 
>>      Suggestions?
>> 
>>      Thanks,
>> 
>>      Bruce
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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