So, good, but price for 845 DC PRO 400 GB higher in about 2x times than
intel S3500 240G (((

Any other models? (((

2015-08-13 15:45 GMT+03:00 Jan Schermer <j...@schermer.cz>:

> I tested and can recommend the Samsung 845 DC PRO (make sure it is DC PRO
> and not just "PRO" or "DC EVO"!).
> Those were very cheap but are out of stock at the moment (here).
> Faster than Intels, cheaper, and slightly different technology (3D V-NAND)
> which IMO makes them superior without needing many tricks to do its job.
>
> Jan
>
> On 13 Aug 2015, at 14:40, Voloshanenko Igor <igor.voloshane...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Tnx, Irek! Will try!
>
> but another question to all, which SSD good enough for CEPH now?
>
> I'm looking into S3500 240G (I have some S3500 120G which show great
> results. Around 8x times better than Samsung)
>
> Possible you can give advice about other vendors/models with same or below
> price level as S3500 240G?
>
> 2015-08-13 12:11 GMT+03:00 Irek Fasikhov <malm...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi, Igor.
>> Try to roll the patch here:
>>
>> http://www.theirek.com/blog/2014/02/16/patch-dlia-raboty-s-enierghoniezavisimym-keshiem-ssd-diskov
>>
>> P.S. I am no longer tracks changes in this direction(kernel), because we
>> use already recommended SSD
>>
>> С уважением, Фасихов Ирек Нургаязович
>> Моб.: +79229045757
>>
>> 2015-08-13 11:56 GMT+03:00 Voloshanenko Igor <igor.voloshane...@gmail.com
>> >:
>>
>>> So, after testing SSD (i wipe 1 SSD, and used it for tests)
>>>
>>> root@ix-s2:~# sudo fio --filename=/dev/sda --direct=1 --sync=1
>>> --rw=write --bs=4k --numjobs=1 --iodepth=1 --runtime=60 --time_based
>>> --gr[53/1800]
>>> ting --name=journal-test
>>> journal-test: (g=0): rw=write, bs=4K-4K/4K-4K/4K-4K, ioengine=sync,
>>> iodepth=1
>>> fio-2.1.3
>>> Starting 1 process
>>> Jobs: 1 (f=1): [W] [100.0% done] [0KB/1152KB/0KB /s] [0/288/0 iops] [eta
>>> 00m:00s]
>>> journal-test: (groupid=0, jobs=1): err= 0: pid=2849460: Thu Aug 13
>>> 10:46:42 2015
>>>   write: io=68972KB, bw=1149.6KB/s, iops=287, runt= 60001msec
>>>     clat (msec): min=2, max=15, avg= 3.48, stdev= 1.08
>>>      lat (msec): min=2, max=15, avg= 3.48, stdev= 1.08
>>>     clat percentiles (usec):
>>>      |  1.00th=[ 2704],  5.00th=[ 2800], 10.00th=[ 2864], 20.00th=[
>>> 2928],
>>>      | 30.00th=[ 3024], 40.00th=[ 3088], 50.00th=[ 3280], 60.00th=[
>>> 3408],
>>>      | 70.00th=[ 3504], 80.00th=[ 3728], 90.00th=[ 3856], 95.00th=[
>>> 4016],
>>>      | 99.00th=[ 9024], 99.50th=[ 9280], 99.90th=[ 9792],
>>> 99.95th=[10048],
>>>      | 99.99th=[14912]
>>>     bw (KB  /s): min= 1064, max= 1213, per=100.00%, avg=1150.07,
>>> stdev=34.31
>>>     lat (msec) : 4=94.99%, 10=4.96%, 20=0.05%
>>>   cpu          : usr=0.13%, sys=0.57%, ctx=17248, majf=0, minf=7
>>>   IO depths    : 1=100.0%, 2=0.0%, 4=0.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%,
>>> >=64=0.0%
>>>      submit    : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%,
>>> >=64=0.0%
>>>      complete  : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%,
>>> >=64=0.0%
>>>      issued    : total=r=0/w=17243/d=0, short=r=0/w=0/d=0
>>>
>>> Run status group 0 (all jobs):
>>>   WRITE: io=68972KB, aggrb=1149KB/s, minb=1149KB/s, maxb=1149KB/s,
>>> mint=60001msec, maxt=60001msec
>>>
>>> Disk stats (read/write):
>>>   sda: ios=0/17224, merge=0/0, ticks=0/59584, in_queue=59576, util=99.30%
>>>
>>> So, it's pain... SSD do only 287 iops on 4K... 1,1 MB/s
>>>
>>> I try to change cache mode :
>>> echo temporary write through > /sys/class/scsi_disk/2:0:0:0/cache_type
>>> echo temporary write through > /sys/class/scsi_disk/3:0:0:0/cache_type
>>>
>>> no luck, still same shit results, also i found this article:
>>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/11/20/264 pointed to old very simple patch,
>>> which disable CMD_FLUSH
>>> https://gist.github.com/TheCodeArtist/93dddcd6a21dc81414ba
>>>
>>> Has everybody better ideas, how to improve this? (or disable CMD_FLUSH
>>> without recompile kernel, i used ubuntu and 4.0.4 for now (4.x branch
>>> because SSD 850 Pro have issue with NCQ TRIM< and before 4.0.4 this
>>> exception was not included into libsata.c)
>>>
>>> 2015-08-12 19:17 GMT+03:00 Pieter Koorts <pieter.koo...@me.com>:
>>>
>>>> Hi Igor
>>>>
>>>> I suspect you have very much the same problem as me.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/ceph-users@lists.ceph.com/msg22260.html
>>>>
>>>> Basically Samsung drives (like many SATA SSD's) are very much hit and
>>>> miss so you will need to test them like described here to see if they are
>>>> any good.
>>>> http://www.sebastien-han.fr/blog/2014/10/10/ceph-how-to-test-if-your-ssd-is-suitable-as-a-journal-device/
>>>>
>>>> To give you an idea my average performance went from 11MB/s (with
>>>> Samsung SSD) to 30MB/s (without any SSD) on write performance. This is a
>>>> very small cluster.
>>>>
>>>> Pieter
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 12, 2015, at 04:33 PM, Voloshanenko Igor <
>>>> igor.voloshane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all, we have setup CEPH cluster with 60 OSD (2 diff types) (5 nodes,
>>>> 12 disks on each, 10 HDD, 2 SSD)
>>>>
>>>> Also we cover this with custom crushmap with 2 root leaf
>>>>
>>>> ID   WEIGHT  TYPE NAME              UP/DOWN REWEIGHT PRIMARY-AFFINITY
>>>> -100 5.00000 root ssd
>>>> -102 1.00000     host ix-s2-ssd
>>>>    2 1.00000         osd.2               up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>    9 1.00000         osd.9               up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>> -103 1.00000     host ix-s3-ssd
>>>>    3 1.00000         osd.3               up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>    7 1.00000         osd.7               up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>> -104 1.00000     host ix-s5-ssd
>>>>    1 1.00000         osd.1               up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>    6 1.00000         osd.6               up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>> -105 1.00000     host ix-s6-ssd
>>>>    4 1.00000         osd.4               up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>    8 1.00000         osd.8               up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>> -106 1.00000     host ix-s7-ssd
>>>>    0 1.00000         osd.0               up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>    5 1.00000         osd.5               up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   -1 5.00000 root platter
>>>>   -2 1.00000     host ix-s2-platter
>>>>   13 1.00000         osd.13              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   17 1.00000         osd.17              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   21 1.00000         osd.21              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   27 1.00000         osd.27              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   32 1.00000         osd.32              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   37 1.00000         osd.37              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   44 1.00000         osd.44              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   48 1.00000         osd.48              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   55 1.00000         osd.55              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   59 1.00000         osd.59              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   -3 1.00000     host ix-s3-platter
>>>>   14 1.00000         osd.14              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   18 1.00000         osd.18              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   23 1.00000         osd.23              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   28 1.00000         osd.28              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   33 1.00000         osd.33              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   39 1.00000         osd.39              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   43 1.00000         osd.43              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   47 1.00000         osd.47              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   54 1.00000         osd.54              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   58 1.00000         osd.58              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   -4 1.00000     host ix-s5-platter
>>>>   11 1.00000         osd.11              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   16 1.00000         osd.16              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   22 1.00000         osd.22              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   26 1.00000         osd.26              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   31 1.00000         osd.31              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   36 1.00000         osd.36              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   41 1.00000         osd.41              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   46 1.00000         osd.46              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   51 1.00000         osd.51              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   56 1.00000         osd.56              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   -5 1.00000     host ix-s6-platter
>>>>   12 1.00000         osd.12              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   19 1.00000         osd.19              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>  24 1.00000         osd.24              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   29 1.00000         osd.29              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   34 1.00000         osd.34              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   38 1.00000         osd.38              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   42 1.00000         osd.42              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   50 1.00000         osd.50              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   53 1.00000         osd.53              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   57 1.00000         osd.57              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   -6 1.00000     host ix-s7-platter
>>>>   10 1.00000         osd.10              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   15 1.00000         osd.15              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   20 1.00000         osd.20              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   25 1.00000         osd.25              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   30 1.00000         osd.30              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   35 1.00000         osd.35              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   40 1.00000         osd.40              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   45 1.00000         osd.45              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   49 1.00000         osd.49              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>   52 1.00000         osd.52              up  1.00000          1.00000
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Then create 2 pools, 1 on HDD (platters), 1 on SSD/
>>>> and put SSD pul in from of HDD pool (cache tier)
>>>>
>>>> now we receive very bad performance results from cluster.
>>>> Even with rados bench we received very unstable performance with even
>>>> zero speed. So it's create very big issues for our clients.
>>>>
>>>> I try to tune all possible values, including OSD, but still no luck.
>>>>
>>>> Also very unbelievble situation, when i do
>>>> ceph tell... bench on SSD OSD - i receive about 20MB/s
>>>> If for HDD - 67 MB/s...
>>>>
>>>> I don;t understand why cache pools which consist of SSD works so bad...
>>>> We used Samsung 850 Pro 256 Gb as SSDs
>>>>
>>>> Can you guys give me advice please...
>>>>
>>>> Also very idiotic thing, when i set cache-mode to forward and try to
>>>> flush-evict all object (not all object evicted, some busy (locked on KVM
>>>> sides). but now i receive quite stable results for rados bench
>>>>
>>>>  Total time run:         30.275871
>>>> Total writes made:      2076
>>>> Write size:             4194304
>>>> Bandwidth (MB/sec):     274.278
>>>>
>>>> Stddev Bandwidth:       75.1445
>>>> Max bandwidth (MB/sec): 368
>>>> Min bandwidth (MB/sec): 0
>>>> Average Latency:        0.232892
>>>> Stddev Latency:         0.240356
>>>> Max latency:            2.01436
>>>> Min latency:            0.0716344
>>>>
>>>> Without zeros, etc...  So i don't understand how it's possible.
>>>>
>>>> Also interesting thing, when i disable overlay for pool, rados bench
>>>> become around 70MB/s as for ordinary HDD, but in same time rados bench for
>>>> SSD pool, which not used anymore show same bad results...
>>>>
>>>> So please, give me some direction to deeg...
>>>>
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