> On 02 Nov 2015, at 11:59, Wido den Hollander <w...@42on.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 02-11-15 11:56, Jan Schermer wrote:
>> Can those hints be disabled somehow? I was battling XFS preallocation
>> the other day, and the mount option didn't make any difference - maybe
>> because those hints have precedence (which could mean they aren't
>> working as they should), maybe not.
>> 
> 
> This config option?
> 
> OPTION(rbd_enable_alloc_hint, OPT_BOOL, true) // when writing a object,
> it will issue a hint to osd backend to indicate the expected size object
> need
> 
> Found in src/common/config_opts.h
> 
> Wido
> 

Thanks, but can this option be set for a whole OSD by default?

Jan

>> In particular, when you fallocate a file, some number of blocks will be
>> reserved without actually allocating the blocks. When you then dirty a
>> block with write and flush, metadata needs to be written (in journal,
>> synchronously) <- this is slow with all drives, and extremely slow with
>> sh*tty drives (doing benchmark on such a file will yield just 100 write
>> IOPs, but when you allocate the file previously with dd if=/dev/zero it
>> will have 6000 IOPs!) - and there doesn't seem to be a way to disable it
>> in XFS. Not sure if hints should help or if they are actually causing
>> the problem (I am not clear on whether they preallocate metadata blocks
>> or just block count). Ext4 does the same thing.
>> 
>> Might be worth looking into?
>> 
>> Jan
>> 
>> 
>>> On 31 Oct 2015, at 19:36, Gregory Farnum <gfar...@redhat.com
>>> <mailto:gfar...@redhat.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Friday, October 30, 2015, mad Engineer <themadengin...@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:themadengin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>    i am learning ceph,block storage and read that each object size is
>>>    4 Mb.I am not clear about the concepts of object storage still
>>>    what will happen if the actual size of data written to block is
>>>    less than 4 Mb lets say 1 Mb.Will it still create object with 4 mb
>>>    size and keep the rest of the space free and unusable?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> No, it will only take up as much space as you write (plus some
>>> metadata). Although I think RBD passes down io hints suggesting the
>>> object's final size will be 4MB so that the underlying storage (eg
>>> xfs) can prevent fragmentation.
>>> -Greg
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