Hello,

On Wed, 9 Dec 2015 15:57:36 +0000 MATHIAS, Bryn (Bryn) wrote:

> to update this, the error looks like it comes from updatedb scanning the
> ceph disks.
> 
> When we make sure it doesn’t, by putting the ceph mount points in the
> exclusion file, the problem goes away.
> 
Ah, I didn't even think about this, as I have been disabling updatedb or
excluding data trees for years now. 
It's probably something that would a good addition to the documentation.

Also with atop you would have immediately seen who the culprit was.

Regard,

Christian
> Thanks for the help and time.
> On 30 Nov 2015, at 09:53, MATHIAS, Bryn (Bryn)
> <bryn.math...@alcatel-lucent.com<mailto:bryn.math...@alcatel-lucent.com>>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 30 Nov 2015, at 14:37, MATHIAS, Bryn (Bryn)
> <bryn.math...@alcatel-lucent.com<mailto:bryn.math...@alcatel-lucent.com>>
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> On 30 Nov 2015, at 13:44, Christian Balzer
> <ch...@gol.com<mailto:ch...@gol.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 07:55:24 +0000 MATHIAS, Bryn (Bryn) wrote:
> 
> Hi Christian,
> 
> I’ll give you a much better dump of detail :)
> 
> Running RHEL 7.1,
> ceph version 0.94.5
> 
> all ceph disks are xfs, with journals on a partition on the disk
> Disks: 6Tb spinners.
> 
> OK, I was guessing that journal on disk, but good to know.
> Which exact model?
> Some of them are rather unsuited for Ceph usage (SMR).
> I don’t know the exact model of the disks but they are not SMR disks.
> 
> Erasure coded pool with 4+1 EC ISA-L also.
> 
> OK, this is where I plead ignorance, no EC experience at all.
> But it would be strange for this to be hitting a single disk at a time.
> It is hitting a single disk in each node, however I’d have thought that
> I’d see repetition over the disks if it were doing this on a per
> placement group basis.
> 
> No scrubbing reported in the ceph log, the cluster isn’t old enough yet
> to be doing any deep scrubbing. Also the cpu usage of the osd deamon
> that controls the disk isn’t spiking which I have seen previously when
> scrubbing or deep scrubbing is taking place.
> 
> Alright, can you confirm (with atop or the likes) that the busy disk is
> actually being written/read to by the OSD process in question and if
> there is a corresponding network traffic for the amount of I/O?
> I checked for network traffic, there didn’t look to be any.
> Looks like the problem is transient and has disappeared for the moment.
> I will post more when I see the problem again.
> 
> Bryn
> 
> Christian
> 
> 
> All disks are at 2% utilisation as given by df.
> 
> For explicitness:
> [root@au-sydney ~]# ceph -s
>   cluster ff900f17-7eec-4fe1-8f31-657d44b86a22
>    health HEALTH_OK
>    monmap e5: 5 mons at
> {au-adelaide=10.50.21.24:6789/0,au-brisbane=10.50.21.22:6789/0,au-canberra=10.50.21.23:6789/0,au-melbourne=10.50.21.21:6789/0,au-sydney=10.50.21.20:6789/0}
> election epoch 274, quorum 0,1,2,3,4
> au-sydney,au-melbourne,au-brisbane,au-canberra,au-adelaide osdmap e8549:
> 120 osds: 120 up, 120 in pgmap v408422: 8192 pgs, 2 pools, 7794 GB data,
> 5647 kobjects 9891 GB used, 644 TB / 654 TB avail 8192 active+clean
> client io 68363 kB/s wr, 1249 op/s
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Bryn
> 
> 
> On 30 Nov 2015, at 12:57, Christian Balzer
> <ch...@gol.com<mailto:ch...@gol.com><mailto:ch...@gol.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 07:15:35 +0000 MATHIAS, Bryn (Bryn) wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I am seeing an issue with ceph performance.
> Starting from an empty cluster of 5 nodes, ~600Tb of storage.
> 
> It would be helpful to have more details (all details in fact) than this.
> Complete HW, OS, FS used, Ceph versions and configuration details
> (journals on HDD, replication levels etc).
> 
> While this might not seem significant to your current question, it might
> prove valuable as to why you're seeing performance problems and how to
> address them.
> 
> monitoring disk usage in nmon I see rolling 100% usage of a disk.
> Ceph -w doesn’t report any spikes in throughput and the application
> putting data is not spiking in the load generated.
> 
> 
> The ceph.log should give a more detailed account, but assuming your
> client side is indeed steady state, this could be very well explained by
> scrubbing, especially deep-scrubbing.
> That should also be visible in the ceph.log.
> 
> Christian
> 
> │sdg2       0%    0.0  537.5|
>                         |
> │ │sdh     2%    4.0
> 4439.8|RW
>                                                                               
>                                                                         │
> │sdh1     2%    4.0
> 3972.3|RW
>                                                                               
>                                                                          │
> │sdh2       0%    0.0  467.6|
>                           |
> │ │sdj     3%    2.0
> 3524.7|RW
>                                                                               
>                                                                        │
> │sdj1     3%    2.0
> 3488.7|RW
>                                                                               
>                                                                          │
> │sdj2       0%    0.0   36.0|
>                   |
> │ │sdk       99% 1144.9
> 3564.6|RRRRRRRRRRRRRWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW>
> │
> │sdk1      99% 1144.9
> 3254.9|RRRRRRRRRRRRRWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW>
> │ │sdk2       0%    0.0  309.7|W
>                                |
> │ │sdl        1%    4.0  955.1|R
>                  |
> │ │sdl1       1%    4.0  791.3|R
>                  |
> │
> │sdl2       0%    0.0  163.8|
>                         |
> 
> 
> Is this anything to do with the way objects are stored on the file
> system? I remember reading that as the number of objects grow the files
> on disk are re-orginised?
> 
> This issue for obvious reasons causes a large degradation in
> performance, is there a way of mitigating it? Will this go away as my
> cluster reaches a higher level of disk utilisation?
> 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Bryn Mathias
> 
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