Thank you both, cleared up a lot. 

Is there a performance metric in perf dump on the MDS' that I can see the 
active number of inodes/dentries? I'm guessing the mds_mem ino and dn metrics 
are the relevant ones?
http://paste.fedoraproject.org/303932/77466614/

Cheers,

Simon

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gregory Farnum [mailto:gfar...@redhat.com]
> Sent: 17 December 2015 23:54
> To: John Spray
> Cc: Simon Hallam; ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
> Subject: Re: [ceph-users] Metadata Server (MDS) Hardware Suggestions
> 
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 2:06 PM, John Spray <jsp...@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Simon  Hallam <s...@pml.ac.uk> wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I’m looking at sizing up some new MDS nodes, but I’m not sure if my
> thought
> >> process is correct or not:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> CPU: Limited to a maximum 2 cores. The higher the GHz, the more IOPS
> >> available. So something like a single E5-2637v3 should fulfil this.
> >
> > No idea where you're getting the 2 core part.  But a mid range CPU
> > like the one you're looking at is probably perfectly appropriate.  As
> > you have probably gathered, the MDS will not make good use of large
> > core counts (though there are plenty of threads and various
> > serialisation/deserialisation parts can happen in parallel).
> 
> There's just not much that happens outside of the big MDS lock right
> now, besides journaling and some message handling. So basically two
> cores is all we'll be able to use until that happens. ;)
> 
> >
> >> Memory: The more the better, as the metadata can be cached in RAM
> (how much
> >> RAM required is dependent on number of files?).
> >
> > Correct, the more RAM you have, the higher you can set mds_cache_size,
> > and the larger your working set will be.
> 
> Note that "working set" there; it's only the active metadata you need
> to worry about when sizing things. I think at last count Zheng was
> seeing ~3KB of memory for each inode/dentry combo.
> -Greg


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