On Friday, August 5, 2016, matthew patton <patto...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > - ESXI's VMFS5 is aligned on 1MB, so 4MB discards never actually free
> anything
>
> the proper solution here is to:
> * quit worrying about it and buy sufficient disk in the first place, it's
> not exactly expensive


> I would do that for one or a couple environments, or if I sold drives :).
  However, the two use cases that are of importance to my group still
warrant figuring this out:

- Large medical image collections or frequently modified database files
(quite a few deletes and creates)

- Passing VMWare certification.  It means a lot to people without deep
dtorage knowledge, to make a decision on adopting a technology


> * ask VMware to have the decency to add a flag to vmkfstools to specify
> the offset


> Preaching to the choir!  I will ask.  Hope someone will listen.

>
> * create a small dummy VMFS on the block device that allows you to create
> a second filesystem behind it that's aligned on a 4MB boundary. Or perhaps
> simpler, create a thick-zeroed VMDK (3+minimum size + extra) on the VMFS
> such that the next VMDK created falls on the desired boundary.


> I wonder how to do this for the test, or use a small partition like Vlad
described.  I will try that with one of their unmap tests

>
> * use NFS like *deity* intended like any other sane person, nobody uses
> block storage anymore for precisely these kinds of reasons.
>

> Working in that direction too.  A bit concerned of the double writes of
the backing filesystem, then double writes for RADOS.  Per Nick, this still
works better than block.  But having gone through 95% of certification for
block, I feel like I should finish it before jumping on to the next thing.

Thank you for your input, it is very practical and helpful long term.

Alex

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Alex Gorbachev
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