On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 2:31 AM, mj <li...@merit.unu.edu> wrote:
> Hi Gregory,
>
> Reading your reply with great interest, thanks.
>
> Can you confirm my understanding now:
>
> - live snapshots are more expensive for the cluster as a whole, than taking
> the snapshot when the VM is switched off?

No, it doesn't matter when the snapshot is taken. Just, once you take
a snapshot, subsequent writes to any object in the snapshot (ie, every
object in the RBD volume) will incur a copy.

>
> - using fstrim in VMs is (much?) more expensive when the VM has existing
> snapshots?

Hmm, I hadn't considered this one. Maybe?

>
> - it might be worthwhile to postpone upgrading from hammer to jewel, until
> after your big accouncement?

"Big announcement" is a bit much — several tunables will be restored
in the next (10.2.8?) release.

> - we are on xfs (both for the ceph OSDs and the VMs) and that is the best
> combination to avoid these slow requests and CoW overhead with snapshots (or
> at least to minimise their impact)
>
> Any other tips, do's or don'ts, or things to keep in mind related to
> snapshots, VM/OSD filesystems, or using fstrim..?
>
> (our cluster is also small, hammer, three servers with 8 OSDs each, and
> journals on ssd, plenty of cpu/ram)
>
> Again, thanks for your interesting post.
>
> MJ
>
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