Why not ask Red Hat? All the rest of the storage vendors you are looking at
are not free.

Full disclosure, I am an employee at Red Hat.

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Nick Fisk <n...@fisk.me.uk> wrote:

> *From:* ceph-users [mailto:ceph-users-boun...@lists.ceph.com] *On Behalf
> Of *German Anders
> *Sent:* 27 November 2017 14:44
> *To:* Maged Mokhtar <mmokh...@petasan.org>
> *Cc:* ceph-users <ceph-users@lists.ceph.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [ceph-users] ceph all-nvme mysql performance tuning
>
>
>
> Hi Maged,
>
>
>
> Thanks a lot for the response. We try with different number of threads and
> we're getting almost the same kind of difference between the storage types.
> Going to try with different rbd stripe size, object size values and see if
> we get more competitive numbers. Will get back with more tests and param
> changes to see if we get better :)
>
>
>
>
>
> Just to echo a couple of comments. Ceph will always struggle to match the
> performance of a traditional array for mainly 2 reasons.
>
>
>
>    1. You are replacing some sort of dual ported SAS or internally RDMA
>    connected device with a network for Ceph replication traffic. This will
>    instantly have a large impact on write latency
>    2. Ceph locks at the PG level and a PG will most likely cover at least
>    one 4MB object, so lots of small accesses to the same blocks (on a block
>    device) will wait on each other and go effectively at a single threaded
>    rate.
>
>
>
> The best thing you can do to mitigate these, is to run the fastest
> journal/WAL devices you can, fastest network connections (ie 25Gb/s) and
> run your CPU’s at max C and P states.
>
>
>
> You stated that you are running the performance profile on the CPU’s.
> Could you also just double check that the C-states are being held at C1(e)?
> There are a few utilities that can show this in realtime.
>
>
>
> Other than that, although there could be some minor tweaks, you are
> probably nearing the limit of what you can hope to achieve.
>
>
>
> Nick
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
> *German*
>
>
>
> 2017-11-27 11:36 GMT-03:00 Maged Mokhtar <mmokh...@petasan.org>:
>
> On 2017-11-27 15:02, German Anders wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> I've a performance question, we recently install a brand new Ceph cluster
> with all-nvme disks, using ceph version 12.2.0 with bluestore configured.
> The back-end of the cluster is using a bond IPoIB (active/passive) , and
> for the front-end we are using a bonding config with active/active (20GbE)
> to communicate with the clients.
>
>
>
> The cluster configuration is the following:
>
>
>
> *MON Nodes:*
>
> OS: Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS | kernel 4.12.14
>
> 3x 1U servers:
>
>   2x Intel Xeon E5-2630v4 @2.2Ghz
>
>   128G RAM
>
>   2x Intel SSD DC S3520 150G (in RAID-1 for OS)
>
>   2x 82599ES 10-Gigabit SFI/SFP+ Network Connection
>
>
>
> *OSD Nodes:*
>
> OS: Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS | kernel 4.12.14
>
> 4x 2U servers:
>
>   2x Intel Xeon E5-2640v4 @2.4Ghz
>
>   128G RAM
>
>   2x Intel SSD DC S3520 150G (in RAID-1 for OS)
>
>   1x Ethernet Controller 10G X550T
>
>   1x 82599ES 10-Gigabit SFI/SFP+ Network Connection
>
>   12x Intel SSD DC P3520 1.2T (NVMe) for OSD daemons
>
>   1x Mellanox ConnectX-3 InfiniBand FDR 56Gb/s Adapter (dual port)
>
>
>
>
>
> Here's the tree:
>
>
>
> ID CLASS WEIGHT   TYPE NAME          STATUS REWEIGHT PRI-AFF
>
> -7       48.00000 root root
>
> -5       24.00000     rack rack1
>
> -1       12.00000         node cpn01
>
>  0  nvme  1.00000             osd.0      up  1.00000 1.00000
>
>  1  nvme  1.00000             osd.1      up  1.00000 1.00000
>
>  2  nvme  1.00000             osd.2      up  1.00000 1.00000
>
>  3  nvme  1.00000             osd.3      up  1.00000 1.00000
>
>  4  nvme  1.00000             osd.4      up  1.00000 1.00000
>
>  5  nvme  1.00000             osd.5      up  1.00000 1.00000
>
>  6  nvme  1.00000             osd.6      up  1.00000 1.00000
>
>  7  nvme  1.00000             osd.7      up  1.00000 1.00000
>
>  8  nvme  1.00000             osd.8      up  1.00000 1.00000
>
>  9  nvme  1.00000             osd.9      up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 10  nvme  1.00000             osd.10     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 11  nvme  1.00000             osd.11     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> -3       12.00000         node cpn03
>
> 24  nvme  1.00000             osd.24     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 25  nvme  1.00000             osd.25     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 26  nvme  1.00000             osd.26     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 27  nvme  1.00000             osd.27     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 28  nvme  1.00000             osd.28     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 29  nvme  1.00000             osd.29     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 30  nvme  1.00000             osd.30     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 31  nvme  1.00000             osd.31     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 32  nvme  1.00000             osd.32     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 33  nvme  1.00000             osd.33     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 34  nvme  1.00000             osd.34     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 35  nvme  1.00000             osd.35     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> -6       24.00000     rack rack2
>
> -2       12.00000         node cpn02
>
> 12  nvme  1.00000             osd.12     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 13  nvme  1.00000             osd.13     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 14  nvme  1.00000             osd.14     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 15  nvme  1.00000             osd.15     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 16  nvme  1.00000             osd.16     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 17  nvme  1.00000             osd.17     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 18  nvme  1.00000             osd.18     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 19  nvme  1.00000             osd.19     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 20  nvme  1.00000             osd.20     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 21  nvme  1.00000             osd.21     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 22  nvme  1.00000             osd.22     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 23  nvme  1.00000             osd.23     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> -4       12.00000         node cpn04
>
> 36  nvme  1.00000             osd.36     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 37  nvme  1.00000             osd.37     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 38  nvme  1.00000             osd.38     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 39  nvme  1.00000             osd.39     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 40  nvme  1.00000             osd.40     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 41  nvme  1.00000             osd.41     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 42  nvme  1.00000             osd.42     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 43  nvme  1.00000             osd.43     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 44  nvme  1.00000             osd.44     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 45  nvme  1.00000             osd.45     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 46  nvme  1.00000             osd.46     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
> 47  nvme  1.00000             osd.47     up  1.00000 1.00000
>
>
>
> The disk partition of one of the OSD nodes:
>
>
>
> NAME                   MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE  MOUNTPOINT
>
> nvme6n1                259:1    0   1.1T  0 disk
>
> ├─nvme6n1p2            259:15   0   1.1T  0 part
>
> └─nvme6n1p1            259:13   0   100M  0 part  /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-6
>
> nvme9n1                259:0    0   1.1T  0 disk
>
> ├─nvme9n1p2            259:8    0   1.1T  0 part
>
> └─nvme9n1p1            259:7    0   100M  0 part  /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-9
>
> sdb                      8:16   0 139.8G  0 disk
>
> └─sdb1                   8:17   0 139.8G  0 part
>
>   └─md0                  9:0    0 139.6G  0 raid1
>
>     ├─md0p2            259:31   0     1K  0 md
>
>     ├─md0p5            259:32   0 139.1G  0 md
>
>     │ ├─cpn01--vg-swap 253:1    0  27.4G  0 lvm   [SWAP]
>
>     │ └─cpn01--vg-root 253:0    0 111.8G  0 lvm   /
>
>     └─md0p1            259:30   0 486.3M  0 md    /boot
>
> nvme11n1               259:2    0   1.1T  0 disk
>
> ├─nvme11n1p1           259:12   0   100M  0 part
> /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-11
>
> └─nvme11n1p2           259:14   0   1.1T  0 part
>
> nvme2n1                259:6    0   1.1T  0 disk
>
> ├─nvme2n1p2            259:21   0   1.1T  0 part
>
> └─nvme2n1p1            259:20   0   100M  0 part  /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-2
>
> nvme5n1                259:3    0   1.1T  0 disk
>
> ├─nvme5n1p1            259:9    0   100M  0 part  /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-5
>
> └─nvme5n1p2            259:10   0   1.1T  0 part
>
> nvme8n1                259:24   0   1.1T  0 disk
>
> ├─nvme8n1p1            259:26   0   100M  0 part  /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-8
>
> └─nvme8n1p2            259:28   0   1.1T  0 part
>
> nvme10n1               259:11   0   1.1T  0 disk
>
> ├─nvme10n1p1           259:22   0   100M  0 part
> /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-10
>
> └─nvme10n1p2           259:23   0   1.1T  0 part
>
> nvme1n1                259:33   0   1.1T  0 disk
>
> ├─nvme1n1p1            259:34   0   100M  0 part  /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1
>
> └─nvme1n1p2            259:35   0   1.1T  0 part
>
> nvme4n1                259:5    0   1.1T  0 disk
>
> ├─nvme4n1p1            259:18   0   100M  0 part  /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-4
>
> └─nvme4n1p2            259:19   0   1.1T  0 part
>
> nvme7n1                259:25   0   1.1T  0 disk
>
> ├─nvme7n1p1            259:27   0   100M  0 part  /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-7
>
> └─nvme7n1p2            259:29   0   1.1T  0 part
>
> sda                      8:0    0 139.8G  0 disk
>
> └─sda1                   8:1    0 139.8G  0 part
>
>   └─md0                  9:0    0 139.6G  0 raid1
>
>     ├─md0p2            259:31   0     1K  0 md
>
>     ├─md0p5            259:32   0 139.1G  0 md
>
>     │ ├─cpn01--vg-swap 253:1    0  27.4G  0 lvm   [SWAP]
>
>     │ └─cpn01--vg-root 253:0    0 111.8G  0 lvm   /
>
>     └─md0p1            259:30   0 486.3M  0 md    /boot
>
> nvme0n1                259:36   0   1.1T  0 disk
>
> ├─nvme0n1p1            259:37   0   100M  0 part  /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-0
>
> └─nvme0n1p2            259:38   0   1.1T  0 part
>
> nvme3n1                259:4    0   1.1T  0 disk
>
> ├─nvme3n1p1            259:16   0   100M  0 part  /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-3
>
> └─nvme3n1p2            259:17   0   1.1T  0 part
>
>
>
>
>
> For the disk scheduler we're using [kyber], for the read_ahead_kb we try
> different values (0,128 and 2048), the rq_affinity set to 2, and the
> rotational parameter set to 0.
>
> We've also set the CPU governor to performance on all the cores, and tune
> some sysctl parameters also:
>
>
>
> # for Ceph
>
> net.ipv4.ip_forward=0
>
> net.ipv4.conf.default.rp_filter=1
>
> kernel.sysrq=0
>
> kernel.core_uses_pid=1
>
> net.ipv4.tcp_syncookies=0
>
> #net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_max=2621440
>
> #net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_tcp_timeout_established = 1800
>
> # disable netfilter on bridges
>
> #net.bridge.bridge-nf-call-ip6tables = 0
>
> #net.bridge.bridge-nf-call-iptables = 0
>
> #net.bridge.bridge-nf-call-arptables = 0
>
> vm.min_free_kbytes=1000000
>
>
>
> # Controls the maximum size of a message, in bytes
>
> kernel.msgmnb = 65536
>
>
>
> # Controls the default maxmimum size of a mesage queue
>
> kernel.msgmax = 65536
>
>
>
> # Controls the maximum shared segment size, in bytes
>
> kernel.shmmax = 68719476736
>
>
>
> # Controls the maximum number of shared memory segments, in pages
>
> kernel.shmall = 4294967296
>
>
>
>
>
> The ceph.conf file is:
>
>
>
> ...
>
> osd_pool_default_size = 3
>
> osd_pool_default_min_size = 2
>
> osd_pool_default_pg_num = 1600
>
> osd_pool_default_pgp_num = 1600
>
>
>
> debug_crush = 1/1
>
> debug_buffer = 0/1
>
> debug_timer = 0/0
>
> debug_filer = 0/1
>
> debug_objecter = 0/1
>
> debug_rados = 0/5
>
> debug_rbd = 0/5
>
> debug_ms = 0/5
>
> debug_throttle = 1/1
>
>
>
> debug_journaler = 0/0
>
> debug_objectcatcher = 0/0
>
> debug_client = 0/0
>
> debug_osd = 0/0
>
> debug_optracker = 0/0
>
> debug_objclass = 0/0
>
> debug_journal = 0/0
>
> debug_filestore = 0/0
>
> debug_mon = 0/0
>
> debug_paxos = 0/0
>
>
>
> osd_crush_chooseleaf_type = 0
>
> filestore_xattr_use_omap = true
>
>
>
> rbd_cache = true
>
> mon_compact_on_trim = false
>
>
>
> [osd]
>
> osd_crush_update_on_start = false
>
>
>
> [client]
>
> rbd_cache = true
>
> rbd_cache_writethrough_until_flush = true
>
> rbd_default_features = 1
>
> admin_socket = /var/run/ceph/$cluster-$type.$id.$pid.$cctid.asok
>
> log_file = /var/log/ceph/
>
>
>
>
>
> The cluster has two production pools on for openstack (volumes) with RF of
> 3 and another pool for db (db) with RF of 2. The DBA team has perform
> several tests with a volume mounted on the DB server (with RBD). The DB
> server has the following configuration:
>
>
>
> OS: CentOS 6.9 | kernel 4.14.1
>
> DB: MySQL
>
> ProLiant BL685c G7
>
> 4x AMD Opteron Processor 6376 (total of 64 cores)
>
> 128G RAM
>
> 1x OneConnect 10Gb NIC (quad-port) - in a bond configuration
> (active/active) with 3 vlans
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> We also did some tests with *sysbench* on different storage types:
>
>
>
> *sysbench*
>
> *disk*
>
> *tps*
>
> *qps*
>
> *latency (ms) 95th percentile*
>
> Local SSD
>
> 261,28
>
> 5.225,61
>
> 5,18
>
> Ceph NVMe
>
> 95,18
>
> 1.903,53
>
> 12,3
>
> Pure Storage
>
> 196,49
>
> 3.929,71
>
> 6,32
>
> NetApp FAS
>
> 189,83
>
> 3.796,59
>
> 6,67
>
> EMC VMAX
>
> 196,14
>
> 3.922,82
>
> 6,32
>
>
>
>
>
> Is there any specific tuning that I can apply to the ceph cluster, in
> order to improve those numbers? Or are those numbers ok for the type and
> size of the cluster that we have? Any advice would be really appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *German*
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Hi,
>
> What is the value of --num-threads (def value is 1) ? Ceph will be better
> with more threads: 32 or 64.
> What is the value of --file-block-size (def 16k) and file-test-mode ? If
> you are using sequential seqwr/seqrd you will be hitting the same OSD, so
> maybe try random (rndrd/rndwr) or better use rbd stripe size of 16kb
> (default rbd stripe is 4M). rbd striping is ideal for small block
> sequential io pattern typical in databases.
>
> /Maged
>
>
>
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