Hallo Matthew, thanks for your feedback!
Please clarify one point: you mean that you recreated the pool as an erasure-coded one, or that you recreated it as a regular replicated one? I mean, you now have an erasure-coded pool in production as a gnocchi backend?

In any case, from the instability you mention, experimenting with BlueStore looks like a better alternative.

  Thanks again

                        Fulvio

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [ceph-users] Blocked requests
From: Matthew Stroud <mattstr...@overstock.com>
To: Fulvio Galeazzi <fulvio.galea...@garr.it>, Brian Andrus <brian.and...@dreamhost.com>
CC: "ceph-users@lists.ceph.com" <ceph-users@lists.ceph.com>
Date: 12/13/2017 5:05 PM

We fixed it by destroying the pool and recreating it though this isn’t really a 
fix. Come to find out ceph has a weakness for small high change rate objects 
(the behavior that gnocchi displays). The cluster will keep going fine until an 
event (aka a reboot, osd failure, etc) happens. I haven’t been able to find 
another solution.

I have heard that BlueStore handles this better, but that wasn’t stable on the 
release we are on.

Thanks,
Matthew Stroud

On 12/13/17, 3:56 AM, "Fulvio Galeazzi" <fulvio.galea...@garr.it> wrote:

     Hallo Matthew,
          I am now facing the same issue and found this message of yours.
        Were you eventually able to figure what the problem is, with
     erasure-coded pools?

     At first sight, the bugzilla page linked by Brian does not seem to
     specifically mention erasure-coded pools...

        Thanks for your help

     Fulvio

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     Subject: Re: [ceph-users] Blocked requests
     From: Matthew Stroud <mattstr...@overstock.com>
     To: Brian Andrus <brian.and...@dreamhost.com>
     CC: "ceph-users@lists.ceph.com" <ceph-users@lists.ceph.com>
     Date: 09/07/2017 11:01 PM

     > After some troubleshooting, the issues appear to be caused by gnocchi
     > using rados. I’m trying to figure out why.
     >
     > Thanks,
     >
     > Matthew Stroud
     >
     > *From: *Brian Andrus <brian.and...@dreamhost.com>
     > *Date: *Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 1:53 PM
     > *To: *Matthew Stroud <mattstr...@overstock.com>
     > *Cc: *David Turner <drakonst...@gmail.com>, "ceph-users@lists.ceph.com"
     > <ceph-users@lists.ceph.com>
     > *Subject: *Re: [ceph-users] Blocked requests
     >
     > "ceph osd blocked-by" can do the same thing as that provided script.
     >
     > Can you post relevant osd.10 logs and a pg dump of an affected placement
     > group? Specifically interested in recovery_state section.
     >
     > Hopefully you were careful in how you were rebooting OSDs, and not
     > rebooting multiple in the same failure domain before recovery was able
     > to occur.
     >
     > On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Matthew Stroud
     > <mattstr...@overstock.com <mailto:mattstr...@overstock.com>> wrote:
     >
     >     Here is the output of your snippet:
     >
     >     [root@mon01 ceph-conf]# bash /tmp/ceph_foo.sh
     >
     >            6 osd.10
     >
     >     52  ops are blocked > 4194.3   sec on osd.17
     >
     >     9   ops are blocked > 2097.15  sec on osd.10
     >
     >     4   ops are blocked > 1048.58  sec on osd.10
     >
     >     39  ops are blocked > 262.144  sec on osd.10
     >
     >     19  ops are blocked > 131.072  sec on osd.10
     >
     >     6   ops are blocked > 65.536   sec on osd.10
     >
     >     2   ops are blocked > 32.768   sec on osd.10
     >
     >     Here is some backfilling info:
     >
     >     [root@mon01 ceph-conf]# ceph status
     >
     >          cluster 55ebbc2d-c5b7-4beb-9688-0926cefee155
     >
     >           health HEALTH_WARN
     >
     >                  5 pgs backfilling
     >
     >                  5 pgs degraded
     >
     >                  5 pgs stuck degraded
     >
     >                  5 pgs stuck unclean
     >
     >                  5 pgs stuck undersized
     >
     >                  5 pgs undersized
     >
     >                  122 requests are blocked > 32 sec
     >
     >                  recovery 2361/1097929 objects degraded (0.215%)
     >
     >                  recovery 5578/1097929 objects misplaced (0.508%)
     >
     >           monmap e1: 3 mons at
     >     
{mon01=10.20.57.10:6789/0,mon02=10.20.57.11:6789/0,mon03=10.20.57.12:6789/0
     >     
<http://10.20.57.10:6789/0,mon02=10.20.57.11:6789/0,mon03=10.20.57.12:6789/0>}
     >
     >                  election epoch 58, quorum 0,1,2 mon01,mon02,mon03
     >
     >           osdmap e6511: 24 osds: 21 up, 21 in; 5 remapped pgs
     >
     >                  flags sortbitwise,require_jewel_osds
     >
     >            pgmap v6474659: 2592 pgs, 5 pools, 333 GB data, 356 kobjects
     >
     >                  1005 GB used, 20283 GB / 21288 GB avail
     >
     >                  2361/1097929 objects degraded (0.215%)
     >
     >                  5578/1097929 objects misplaced (0.508%)
     >
     >                      2587 active+clean
     >
     >                         5 active+undersized+degraded+remapped+backfilling
     >
     >     [root@mon01 ceph-conf]# ceph pg dump_stuck unclean
     >
     >     ok
     >
     >     pg_stat state   up      up_primary      acting  acting_primary
     >
     >     3.5c2   active+undersized+degraded+remapped+backfilling
     >     [17,2,10]       17      [17,2]  17
     >
     >     3.54a   active+undersized+degraded+remapped+backfilling
     >     [10,19,2]       10      [10,17] 10
     >
     >     5.3b    active+undersized+degraded+remapped+backfilling
     >     [3,19,0]        3       [10,17] 10
     >
     >     5.b3    active+undersized+degraded+remapped+backfilling
     >     [10,19,2]       10      [10,17] 10
     >
     >     3.180   active+undersized+degraded+remapped+backfilling
     >     [17,10,6]       17      [22,19] 22
     >
     >     Most of the back filling is was caused by restarting osds to clear
     >     blocked IO. Here are some of the blocked IOs:
     >
     >     /var/log/ceph/ceph.log:2017-09-07 13:29:36.978559 osd.10
     >     10.20.57.15:6806/7029 <http://10.20.57.15:6806/7029> 9362 : cluster
     >     [WRN] slow request 60.834494 seconds old, received at 2017-09-07
     >     13:28:36.143920: osd_op(client.114947.0:2039090 5.e637a4b3
     >     (undecoded) ack+read+balance_reads+skiprwlocks+known_if_redirected
     >     e6511) currently queued_for_pg
     >
     >     /var/log/ceph/ceph.log:2017-09-07 13:29:36.978565 osd.10
     >     10.20.57.15:6806/7029 <http://10.20.57.15:6806/7029> 9363 : cluster
     >     [WRN] slow request 240.661052 seconds old, received at 2017-09-07
     >     13:25:36.317363: osd_op(client.246934107.0:3 5.f69addd6 (undecoded)
     >     ack+read+known_if_redirected e6511) currently queued_for_pg
     >
     >     /var/log/ceph/ceph.log:2017-09-07 13:29:36.978571 osd.10
     >     10.20.57.15:6806/7029 <http://10.20.57.15:6806/7029> 9364 : cluster
     >     [WRN] slow request 240.660763 seconds old, received at 2017-09-07
     >     13:25:36.317651: osd_op(client.246944377.0:2 5.f69addd6 (undecoded)
     >     ack+read+known_if_redirected e6511) currently queued_for_pg
     >
     >     /var/log/ceph/ceph.log:2017-09-07 13:29:36.978576 osd.10
     >     10.20.57.15:6806/7029 <http://10.20.57.15:6806/7029> 9365 : cluster
     >     [WRN] slow request 240.660675 seconds old, received at 2017-09-07
     >     13:25:36.317740: osd_op(client.246944377.0:3 5.f69addd6 (undecoded)
     >     ack+read+known_if_redirected e6511) currently queued_for_pg
     >
     >     /var/log/ceph/ceph.log:2017-09-07 13:29:42.979367 osd.10
     >     10.20.57.15:6806/7029 <http://10.20.57.15:6806/7029> 9366 : cluster
     >     [WRN] 72 slow requests, 3 included below; oldest blocked for >
     >     1820.342287 secs
     >
     >     /var/log/ceph/ceph.log:2017-09-07 13:29:42.979373 osd.10
     >     10.20.57.15:6806/7029 <http://10.20.57.15:6806/7029> 9367 : cluster
     >     [WRN] slow request 30.606290 seconds old, received at 2017-09-07
     >     13:29:12.372999: osd_op(client.115008.0:996024003 5.e637a4b3
     >     (undecoded) ondisk+write+skiprwlocks+known_if_redirected e6511)
     >     currently queued_for_pg
     >
     >     /var/log/ceph/ceph.log:2017-09-07 13:29:42.979377 osd.10
     >     10.20.57.15:6806/7029 <http://10.20.57.15:6806/7029> 9368 : cluster
     >     [WRN] slow request 30.554317 seconds old, received at 2017-09-07
     >     13:29:12.424972: osd_op(client.115020.0:1831942 5.39f2d3b
     >     (undecoded) ack+read+known_if_redirected e6511) currently 
queued_for_pg
     >
     >     /var/log/ceph/ceph.log:2017-09-07 13:29:42.979383 osd.10
     >     10.20.57.15:6806/7029 <http://10.20.57.15:6806/7029> 9369 : cluster
     >     [WRN] slow request 30.368086 seconds old, received at 2017-09-07
     >     13:29:12.611204: osd_op(client.115014.0:73392774 5.e637a4b3
     >     (undecoded) ack+read+balance_reads+skiprwlocks+known_if_redirected
     >     e6511) currently queued_for_pg
     >
     >     /var/log/ceph/ceph.log:2017-09-07 13:29:43.979553 osd.10
     >     10.20.57.15:6806/7029 <http://10.20.57.15:6806/7029> 9370 : cluster
     >     [WRN] 73 slow requests, 1 included below; oldest blocked for >
     >     1821.342499 secs
     >
     >     /var/log/ceph/ceph.log:2017-09-07 13:29:43.979559 osd.10
     >     10.20.57.15:6806/7029 <http://10.20.57.15:6806/7029> 9371 : cluster
     >     [WRN] slow request 30.452344 seconds old, received at 2017-09-07
     >     13:29:13.527157: osd_op(client.115011.0:483954528 5.e637a4b3
     >     (undecoded) ack+read+balance_reads+skiprwlocks+known_if_redirected
     >     e6511) currently queued_for_pg
     >
     >     *From: *David Turner <drakonst...@gmail.com
     >     <mailto:drakonst...@gmail.com>>
     >     *Date: *Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 1:17 PM
     >
     >
     >     *To: *Matthew Stroud <mattstr...@overstock.com
     >     <mailto:mattstr...@overstock.com>>, "ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
     >     <mailto:ceph-users@lists.ceph.com>" <ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
     >     <mailto:ceph-users@lists.ceph.com>>
     >     *Subject: *Re: [ceph-users] Blocked requests
     >
     >     I would recommend pushing forward with the update instead of rolling
     >     back.  Ceph doesn't have a track record of rolling back to a
     >     previous version.
     >
     >     I don't have enough information to really make sense of the ceph
     >     health detail output.  Like are the osds listed all on the same
     >     host?  Over time of watching this output, are some of the requests
     >     clearing up?  Are there any other patterns?  I put the following in
     >     a script and run it in a watch command to try and follow patterns
     >     when I'm plagued with blocked requests.
     >
     >          output=$(ceph --cluster $cluster health detail | grep 'ops are
     >     blocked' | sort -nrk6 | sed 's/ ops/+ops/' | sed 's/ sec/+sec/' |
     >     column -t -s'+')
     >
     >          echo "$output" | grep -v 'on osd'
     >
     >          echo "$output" | grep -Eo osd.[0-9]+ | sort -n | uniq -c | grep
     >     -v ' 1 '
     >
     >          echo "$output" | grep 'on osd'
     >
     >     Why do you have backfilling?  You haven't mentioned that you have
     >     any backfilling yet.  Installing an update shouldn't cause
     >     backfilling, but it's likely related to your blocked requests.
     >
     >     On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 2:24 PM Matthew Stroud
     >     <mattstr...@overstock.com <mailto:mattstr...@overstock.com>> wrote:
     >
     >         Well in the meantime things have gone from bad to worse now the
     >         cluster isn’t rebuilding and clients are unable to pass IO to
     >         the cluster. When this first took place, we started rolling back
     >         to 10.2.7, though that was successful, it didn’t help with the
     >         issue. Here is the command output:
     >
     >         HEALTH_WARN 39 pgs backfill_wait; 5 pgs backfilling; 43 pgs
     >         degraded; 43 pgs stuck degraded; 44 pgs stuck unclean; 43 pgs
     >         stuck undersized; 43 pgs undersized; 367 requests are blocked >
     >         32 sec; 14 osds have slow requests; recovery 4678/1097738
     >         objects degraded (0.426%); recovery 10364/1097738 objects
     >         misplaced (0.944%)
     >
     >         pg 3.624 is stuck unclean for 1402.022837, current state
     >         active+undersized+degraded+remapped+wait_backfill, last acting
     >         [12,9]
     >
     >         pg 3.587 is stuck unclean for 2536.693566, current state
     >         active+undersized+degraded+remapped+wait_backfill, last acting
     >         [18,13]
     >
     >         pg 3.45f is stuck unclean for 1421.178244, current state
     >         active+undersized+degraded+remapped+wait_backfill, last acting
     >         [14,10]
     >
     >         pg 3.41a is stuck unclean for 1505.091187, current state
     >         active+undersized+degraded+remapped+wait_backfill, last acting
     >         [9,23]
     >
     >         pg 3.4cc is stuck unclean for 1560.824332, current state
     >         active+undersized+degraded+remapped+wait_backfill, last acting
     >         [18,10]
     >
     >         < snip>
     >
     >         pg 3.188 is stuck degraded for 1207.118130, current state
     >         active+undersized+degraded+remapped+wait_backfill, last acting
     >         [14,17]
     >
     >         pg 3.768 is stuck degraded for 1123.722910, current state
     >         active+undersized+degraded+remapped+wait_backfill, last acting
     >         [11,18]
     >
     >         pg 3.77c is stuck degraded for 1211.981606, current state
     >         active+undersized+degraded+remapped+wait_backfill, last acting 
[9,2]
     >
     >         pg 3.7d1 is stuck degraded for 1074.422756, current state
     >         active+undersized+degraded+remapped+wait_backfill, last acting
     >         [10,12]
     >
     >         pg 3.7d1 is active+undersized+degraded+remapped+wait_backfill,
     >         acting [10,12]
     >
     >         pg 3.77c is active+undersized+degraded+remapped+wait_backfill,
     >         acting [9,2]
     >
     >         pg 3.768 is active+undersized+degraded+remapped+wait_backfill,
     >         acting [11,18]
     >
     >         pg 3.709 is active+undersized+degraded+remapped+wait_backfill,
     >         acting [10,4]
     >
     >         <snip>
     >
     >         pg 3.5d8 is active+undersized+degraded+remapped+wait_backfill,
     >         acting [2,10]
     >
     >         pg 3.5dc is active+undersized+degraded+remapped+wait_backfill,
     >         acting [8,19]
     >
     >         pg 3.5f8 is active+undersized+degraded+remapped+wait_backfill,
     >         acting [2,21]
     >
     >         pg 3.624 is active+undersized+degraded+remapped+wait_backfill,
     >         acting [12,9]
     >
     >         2 ops are blocked > 1048.58 sec on osd.9
     >
     >         3 ops are blocked > 65.536 sec on osd.9
     >
     >         7 ops are blocked > 1048.58 sec on osd.8
     >
     >         1 ops are blocked > 524.288 sec on osd.8
     >
     >         1 ops are blocked > 131.072 sec on osd.8
     >
     >         <snip>
     >
     >         1 ops are blocked > 524.288 sec on osd.2
     >
     >         1 ops are blocked > 262.144 sec on osd.2
     >
     >         2 ops are blocked > 65.536 sec on osd.21
     >
     >         9 ops are blocked > 1048.58 sec on osd.5
     >
     >         9 ops are blocked > 524.288 sec on osd.5
     >
     >         71 ops are blocked > 131.072 sec on osd.5
     >
     >         19 ops are blocked > 65.536 sec on osd.5
     >
     >         35 ops are blocked > 32.768 sec on osd.5
     >
     >         14 osds have slow requests
     >
     >         recovery 4678/1097738 objects degraded (0.426%)
     >
     >         recovery 10364/1097738 objects misplaced (0.944%)
     >
     >         *From: *David Turner <drakonst...@gmail.com
     >         <mailto:drakonst...@gmail.com>>
     >         *Date: *Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 11:33 AM
     >         *To: *Matthew Stroud <mattstr...@overstock.com
     >         <mailto:mattstr...@overstock.com>>, "ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
     >         <mailto:ceph-users@lists.ceph.com>" <ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
     >         <mailto:ceph-users@lists.ceph.com>>
     >         *Subject: *Re: [ceph-users] Blocked requests
     >
     >         To be fair, other times I have to go in and tweak configuration
     >         settings and timings to resolve chronic blocked requests.
     >
     >         On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 1:32 PM David Turner
     >         <drakonst...@gmail.com <mailto:drakonst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
     >
     >             `ceph health detail` will give a little more information
     >             into the blocked requests.  Specifically which OSDs are the
     >             requests blocked on and how long have they actually been
     >             blocked (as opposed to '> 32 sec').  I usually find a
     >             pattern after watching that for a time and narrow things
     >             down to an OSD, journal, etc.  Some times I just need to
     >             restart a specific OSD and all is well.
     >
     >             On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 10:33 AM Matthew Stroud
     >             <mattstr...@overstock.com <mailto:mattstr...@overstock.com>>
     >             wrote:
     >
     >                 After updating from 10.2.7 to 10.2.9 I have a bunch of
     >                 blocked requests for ‘currently waiting for missing
     >                 object’. I have tried bouncing the osds and rebooting
     >                 the osd nodes, but that just moves the problems around.
     >                 Previous to this upgrade we had no issues. Any ideas of
     >                 what to look at?
     >
     >                 Thanks,
     >
     >                 Matthew Stroud
     >
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