Oliver,

Be aware that for k=4,m=2 the min_size will be 5 (k+1), so after a node
failure the min_size is already reached.
Any OSD failure beyond the node failure will probably result in some PG's
to be become incomplete (I/O Freeze) until the incomplete PG's data is
recovered to another OSD in that node.

So please reconsider your statement "one host + x safety" as the x safety
(with I/O freeze) is probably not what you want.

Forcing to run with min_size=4 could also be dangerous for other reasons.
(there's a reason why min_size = k+1)

Caspar

2018-02-27 0:17 GMT+01:00 Oliver Freyermuth <freyerm...@physik.uni-bonn.de>:

> Am 27.02.2018 um 00:10 schrieb Gregory Farnum:
> > On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 2:59 PM Oliver Freyermuth <
> freyerm...@physik.uni-bonn.de <mailto:freyerm...@physik.uni-bonn.de>>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >     >     Does this match expectations?
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > Can you get the output of eg "ceph pg 2.7cd query"? Want to make
> sure the backfilling versus acting sets and things are correct.
> >
> >     You'll find attached:
> >     query_allwell)  Output of "ceph pg 2.7cd query" when all OSDs are up
> and everything is healthy.
> >     query_one_host_out) Output of "ceph pg 2.7cd query" when OSDs
> 164-195 (one host) are down and out.
> >
> >
> > Yep, that's what we want to see. So when everything's well, we have OSDs
> 91, 63, 33, 163, 192, 103. That corresponds to chassis 3, 2, 1, 5, 6, 4.
> >
> > When marking out a host, we have OSDs 91, 63, 33, 163, 123, UNMAPPED.
> That corresponds to chassis 3, 2, 1, 5, 4, UNMAPPED.
> >
> > So what's happened is that with the new map, when choosing the home for
> shard 4, we selected host 4 instead of host 6 (which is gone). And now
> shard 5 can't map properly. But of course we still have shard 5 available
> on host 4, so host 4 is going to end up properly owning shard 4, but also
> just carrying that shard 5 around as a remapped location.
> >
> > So this is as we expect. Whew.
> > -Greg
>
> Understood. Thanks for explaining step by step :-).
> It's of course a bit weird that this happens, since in the end, this
> really means data is moved (or rather, a shard is recreated) and taking up
> space without increasing redundancy
> (well, it might, if it lands on a different OSD than shard 5, but that's
> not really ensured). I'm unsure if this can be solved "better" in any way.
>
> Anyways, it seems this would be another reason why running with k+m=number
> of hosts should not be a general recommendation. For us, it's fine for now,
> especially since we want to keep the cluster open for later extension with
> more OSDs, and we do now know the gotchas - and I don't see a better EC
> configuration at the moment
> which would accomodate our wishes (one host + x safety, don't reduce space
> too much).
>
> So thanks again!
>
> Cheers,
>         Oliver
>
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