Hi Oliver,

No ticket yet... we were distracted.

I have the same observations as what you show below...

-- dan



On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 2:33 PM, Oliver Freyermuth
<freyerm...@physik.uni-bonn.de> wrote:
> Am 22.02.2018 um 09:44 schrieb Dan van der Ster:
>> On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 11:56 PM, Oliver Freyermuth
>> <freyerm...@physik.uni-bonn.de> wrote:
>>> Am 21.02.2018 um 15:58 schrieb Alfredo Deza:
>>>> On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 9:40 AM, Dan van der Ster <d...@vanderster.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 2:24 PM, Alfredo Deza <ad...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 9:05 PM, Oliver Freyermuth
>>>>>> <freyerm...@physik.uni-bonn.de> wrote:
>>>>>>> Many thanks for your replies!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are there plans to have something like
>>>>>>> "ceph-volume discover-and-activate"
>>>>>>> which would effectively do something like:
>>>>>>> ceph-volume list and activate all OSDs which are re-discovered from LVM 
>>>>>>> metadata?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a good idea, I think ceph-disk had an 'activate all', and it
>>>>>> would make it easier for the situation you explain with ceph-volume
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've created http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/23067 to follow up on this
>>>>>> an implement it.
>>>>>
>>>>> +1 thanks a lot for this thread and clear answers!
>>>>> We were literally stuck today not knowing how to restart a ceph-volume
>>>>> lvm created OSD.
>>>>>
>>>>> (It seems that once you systemctl stop ceph-osd@* on a machine, the
>>>>> only way to get them back is ceph-volume lvm activate ... )
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, ceph-osd.target now has less obvious functionality. For example,
>>>>> this works:
>>>>>
>>>>>   systemctl restart ceph-osd.target
>>>>>
>>>>> But if you stop ceph-osd.target, then you can no longer start 
>>>>> ceph-osd.target.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this a regression or something we'll have to live with?
>>>>
>>>> This sounds surprising. Stopping a ceph-osd target should not do
>>>> anything with the devices. All that 'activate' does when called in
>>>> ceph-volume is to ensure that
>>>> the devices are available and mounted in the right places so that the
>>>> OSD can start.
>>>>
>>>> If you are experiencing a problem stopping an OSD that can't be
>>>> started again, then something is going on. I would urge you to create
>>>> a ticket with as many details as you can
>>>> at http://tracker.ceph.com/projects/ceph-volume/issues/new
>>>
>>> I also see this - but it's not really that "the osd can not be started 
>>> again".
>>> The problem is that once the osd is stopped, e.g. via
>>> systemctl stop ceph.target
>>> doing a
>>> systemctl start ceph.target
>>> will not bring it up again.
>>>
>>> Doing a manual
>>> systemctl start ceph-osd@36.service
>>> will work, though.
>>
>> In our case even that does not work reliably.
>> We're gathering info to create a tracker ticket.
>>
>> Cheers, Dan
>
> Dear Dan,
>
> did you manage to come around to report a ticket? If so, could you share the 
> ticket number?
> Then I'd happily subscribe to it (with the flood of tickets it's hard to 
> find...).
>
> On related news, I observe this:
>   # systemctl list-dependencies ceph-osd.target
>   ceph-osd.target
>   ● ├─ceph-osd@2.service
>   ● └─ceph-osd@3.service
> on a host installed with ceph-deploy < 2.0 (i.e. using ceph-disk),
> while I observe this:
>   # systemctl list-dependencies ceph-osd.target
>   ceph-osd.target
> for a host installed with ceph-deploy 2.0, i.e. using ceph-volume.
>
> I think this is caused by the ceph-volume systemd-files triggering the 
> ceph-osd services,
> so they are not enabled at all, and hence not considered as dependencies of 
> the target.
>
> Unsure how to solve this cleanly without refactoring the concept, but again, 
> I'm no systemd expert ;-).
>
> Cheers,
>         Oliver
>
>>
>>>
>>> The ceph-osd@36.service, in fact, is not enabled on my machine,
>>> which is likely why ceph.target will not cause it to come up.
>>>
>>> I am not a systemd expert, but I think the issue is that the 
>>> ceph-volume@-services which
>>> (I think) take care to activate the OSD services are not re-triggered.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>         Oliver
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers, Dan
>>>
>>>
>
>
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