If it's attachments causing this, perhaps forbid attachments? Force people to use pastebin / imgur type of services?
/E On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 1:33 PM Martin Palma <mar...@palma.bz> wrote: > Same here also on Gmail with G Suite. > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 12:31 AM Paul Emmerich <paul.emmer...@croit.io> > wrote: > > > > I'm also seeing this once every few months or so on Gmail with G Suite. > > > > Paul > > Am So., 7. Okt. 2018 um 08:18 Uhr schrieb Joshua Chen > > <csc...@asiaa.sinica.edu.tw>: > > > > > > I also got removed once, got another warning once (need to re-enable). > > > > > > Cheers > > > Joshua > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 5:38 AM Svante Karlsson <svante.karls...@csi.se> > wrote: > > >> > > >> I'm also getting removed but not only from ceph. I subscribe > d...@kafka.apache.org list and the same thing happens there. > > >> > > >> Den lör 6 okt. 2018 kl 23:24 skrev Jeff Smith <j...@unbiasedgeek.com > >: > > >>> > > >>> I have been removed twice. > > >>> On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 7:07 AM Elias Abacioglu > > >>> <elias.abacio...@deltaprojects.com> wrote: > > >>> > > > >>> > Hi, > > >>> > > > >>> > I'm bumping this old thread cause it's getting annoying. My > membership get disabled twice a month. > > >>> > Between my two Gmail accounts I'm in more than 25 mailing lists > and I see this behavior only here. Why is only ceph-users only affected? > Maybe Christian was on to something, is this intentional? > > >>> > Reality is that there is a lot of ceph-users with Gmail accounts, > perhaps it wouldn't be so bad to actually trying to figure this one out? > > >>> > > > >>> > So can the maintainers of this list please investigate what > actually gets bounced? Look at my address if you want. > > >>> > I got disabled 20181006, 20180927, 20180916, 20180725, 20180718 > most recently. > > >>> > Please help! > > >>> > > > >>> > Thanks, > > >>> > Elias > > >>> > > > >>> > On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 5:41 AM Christian Balzer <ch...@gol.com> > wrote: > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> Most mails to this ML score low or negatively with SpamAssassin, > however > > >>> >> once in a while (this is a recent one) we get relatively high > scores. > > >>> >> Note that the forged bits are false positives, but the SA is up > to date and > > >>> >> google will have similar checks: > > >>> >> --- > > >>> >> X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.9 required=10.0 > tests=BAYES_00,DCC_CHECK, > > >>> >> > FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA,FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, > > >>> >> > HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_MOSTLY,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4, > > >>> >> RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,RDNS_NONE,T_DKIM_INVALID shortcircuit=no > autolearn=no > > >>> >> --- > > >>> >> > > >>> >> Between attachment mails and some of these and you're well on > your way out. > > >>> >> > > >>> >> The default mailman settings and logic require 5 bounces to > trigger > > >>> >> unsubscription and 7 days of NO bounces to reset the counter. > > >>> >> > > >>> >> Christian > > >>> >> > > >>> >> On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:23:25 +0900 Christian Balzer wrote: > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 14:15:22 +1100 Blair Bethwaite wrote: > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > Thanks Christian, > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > You're no doubt on the right track, but I'd really like to > figure out > > >>> >> > > what it is at my end - I'm unlikely to be the only person > subscribed > > >>> >> > > to ceph-users via a gmail account. > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > Re. attachments, I'm surprised mailman would be allowing them > in the > > >>> >> > > first place, and even so gmail's attachment requirements are > less > > >>> >> > > strict than most corporate email setups (those that don't > already use > > >>> >> > > a cloud provider). > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > Mailman doesn't do anything with this by default AFAIK, but see > below. > > >>> >> > Strict is fine if you're in control, corporate mail can be > hell, doubly so > > >>> >> > if on M$ cloud. > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > This started happening earlier in the year after I turned off > digest > > >>> >> > > mode. I also have a paid google domain, maybe I'll try setting > > >>> >> > > delivery to that address and seeing if anything changes... > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > Don't think google domain is handled differently, but what do I > know. > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > Though the digest bit confirms my suspicion about attachments: > > >>> >> > --- > > >>> >> > When a subscriber chooses to receive plain text daily “digests” > of list > > >>> >> > messages, Mailman sends the digest messages without any original > > >>> >> > attachments (in Mailman lingo, it “scrubs” the messages of > attachments). > > >>> >> > However, Mailman also includes links to the original > attachments that the > > >>> >> > recipient can click on. > > >>> >> > --- > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > Christian > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > Cheers, > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > On 16 October 2017 at 13:54, Christian Balzer <ch...@gol.com> > wrote: > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > Hello, > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > You're on gmail. > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > Aside from various potential false positives with regards > to spam my bet > > >>> >> > > > is that gmail's known dislike for attachments is the cause > of these > > >>> >> > > > bounces and that setting is beyond your control. > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > Because Google knows best[tm]. > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > Christian > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 13:50:43 +1100 Blair Bethwaite wrote: > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > >> Hi all, > > >>> >> > > >> > > >>> >> > > >> This is a mailing-list admin issue - I keep being > unsubscribed from > > >>> >> > > >> ceph-users with the message: > > >>> >> > > >> "Your membership in the mailing list ceph-users has been > disabled due > > >>> >> > > >> to excessive bounces..." > > >>> >> > > >> This seems to be happening on roughly a monthly basis. > > >>> >> > > >> > > >>> >> > > >> Thing is I have no idea what the bounce is or where it is > coming from. > > >>> >> > > >> I've tried emailing ceph-users-ow...@lists.ceph.com and > the contact > > >>> >> > > >> listed in Mailman (l...@redhat.com) to get more info but > haven't > > >>> >> > > >> received any response despite several attempts. > > >>> >> > > >> > > >>> >> > > >> Help! > > >>> >> > > >> > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > -- > > >>> >> > > > Christian Balzer Network/Systems Engineer > > >>> >> > > > ch...@gol.com Rakuten Communications > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> -- > > >>> >> Christian Balzer Network/Systems Engineer > > >>> >> ch...@gol.com Rakuten Communications > > >>> >> _______________________________________________ > > >>> >> ceph-users mailing list > > >>> >> ceph-users@lists.ceph.com > > >>> >> http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com > > >>> > > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > > >>> > ceph-users mailing list > > >>> > ceph-users@lists.ceph.com > > >>> > http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> ceph-users mailing list > > >>> ceph-users@lists.ceph.com > > >>> http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> ceph-users mailing list > > >> ceph-users@lists.ceph.com > > >> http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > ceph-users mailing list > > > ceph-users@lists.ceph.com > > > http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com > > > > > > > > -- > > Paul Emmerich > > > > Looking for help with your Ceph cluster? 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