On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 2:28 PM Graham Allan <g...@umn.edu> wrote:

> Thanks Greg,
>
> This did get resolved though I'm not 100% certain why!
>
> For one of the suspect shards which caused crash on backfill, I
> attempted to delete the associated via s3, late last week. I then
> examined the filestore OSDs and the file shards were still present...
> maybe for an hour following (after which I stopped looking).
>
> I left the cluster set to nobackfill over the weekend, during which time
> all osds kept running; then on Monday morning re-enabled backfill. I
> expected the osd to crash again. after which I could look into moving or
> deleting the implicated backfill shards out of the way. Instead of which
> it happily backfilled its way to cleanliness.
>
> I suppose it's possible the shards got deleted later in some kind of rgw
> gc operation, and this could have cleared the problem? Unfortunately I
> didn't look for them again before re-enabling backfill. I'm not sure if
> that's how s3 object deletion works - does it make any sense?
>

Yes, RGW generates garbage collection logs that are followed along and
perform actual object deletes separately from when they're marked deleted
in the S3 protocol. I don't know the details of the process but it's
entirely plausible that it just went through and deleted all the bad
objects during that time period.
-Greg


>
> The only other thing I did late last week was notice that one of the
> active osds for the pg seemed very slow to respond - the drive was
> clearly failing. I was never getting any actual i/o errors at the user
> or osd level, though it did trigger a 24-hour deathwatch SMART warning a
> bit later.
>
> I exported the pg shard from the failing osd, and re-imported it to
> another otherwise-evacuated osd. This was just for data safety; it seems
> really unlikely this could be causing the other osds in the pg to crash...
>
> Graham
>
> On 10/15/2018 01:44 PM, Gregory Farnum wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 3:22 PM Graham Allan <g...@umn.edu
> >
> >     As the osd crash implies, setting "nobackfill" appears to let all the
> >     osds keep running and the pg stays active and can apparently serve
> data.
> >
> >     If I track down the object referenced below in the object store, I
> can
> >     download it without error via s3... though as I can't generate a
> >     matching etag, it may well be corrupt.
> >
> >     Still I do wonder if deleting this object - either via s3, or maybe
> >     more
> >     likely directly within filestore, might permit backfill to continue.
> >
> >
> > Yes, that is very likely! (...unless there are a bunch of other objects
> > with the same issue.)
> >
> > I'm not immediately familiar with the crash asserts you're seeing, but
> > it certainly looks like somehow the object data didn't quite get stored
> > correctly as the metadata understands it. Perhaps a write got
> > lost/missed on m+1 of the PG shards, setting the
> > osd_find_best_info_ignore_history_les caused it to try and recover from
> > what it had rather than following normal recovery procedures, and now
> > it's not working.
> > -Greg
>
>
> --
> Graham Allan
> Minnesota Supercomputing Institute - g...@umn.edu
>
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