"out" is internally implemented as "reweight 0"

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On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 10:48 AM Fyodor Ustinov <u...@ufm.su> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> As far as I understand, reweight also does not lead to the situation "a 
> period where one copy / shard
> is missing".
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Emmerich" <paul.emmer...@croit.io>
> To: "Fyodor Ustinov" <u...@ufm.su>
> Cc: "David Turner" <drakonst...@gmail.com>, "ceph-users" 
> <ceph-users@lists.ceph.com>
> Sent: Friday, 1 March, 2019 11:32:54
> Subject: Re: [ceph-users] Right way to delete OSD from cluster?
>
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 8:55 AM Fyodor Ustinov <u...@ufm.su> wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > Yes. But I am a little surprised by what is written in the documentation:
>
> the point of this is that you don't have a period where one copy/shard
> is missing if you wait for it to take it out.
> Yeah, there'll be an unnecessary small data movement afterwards, but
> you are never missing a copy.
>
>
> Paul
>
> > http://docs.ceph.com/docs/mimic/rados/operations/add-or-rm-osds/
> >
> > ---
> > Before you remove an OSD, it is usually up and in. You need to take it out 
> > of the cluster so that Ceph can begin rebalancing and copying its data to 
> > other OSDs.
> > ceph osd out {osd-num}
> > [...]
> > ---
> >
> > That is, it is argued that this is the most correct way (otherwise it would 
> > not have been written in the documentation).
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Turner" <drakonst...@gmail.com>
> > To: "Fyodor Ustinov" <u...@ufm.su>
> > Cc: "Scottix" <scot...@gmail.com>, "ceph-users" <ceph-users@lists.ceph.com>
> > Sent: Friday, 1 March, 2019 05:13:27
> > Subject: Re: [ceph-users] Right way to delete OSD from cluster?
> >
> > The reason is that an osd still contributes to the host weight in the crush
> > map even while it is marked out. When you out and then purge, the purging
> > operation removed the osd from the map and changes the weight of the host
> > which changes the crush map and data moves. By weighting the osd to 0.0,
> > the hosts weight is already the same it will be when you purge the osd.
> > Weighting to 0.0 is definitely the best option for removing storage if you
> > can trust the data on the osd being removed.
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019, 3:19 AM Fyodor Ustinov <u...@ufm.su> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > Thank you so much!
> > >
> > > I do not understand why, but your variant really causes only one rebalance
> > > compared to the "osd out".
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Scottix" <scot...@gmail.com>
> > > To: "Fyodor Ustinov" <u...@ufm.su>
> > > Cc: "ceph-users" <ceph-users@lists.ceph.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 30 January, 2019 20:31:32
> > > Subject: Re: [ceph-users] Right way to delete OSD from cluster?
> > >
> > > I generally have gone the crush reweight 0 route
> > > This way the drive can participate in the rebalance, and the rebalance
> > > only happens once. Then you can take it out and purge.
> > >
> > > If I am not mistaken this is the safest.
> > >
> > > ceph osd crush reweight <id> 0
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 7:45 AM Fyodor Ustinov <u...@ufm.su> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > But unless after "ceph osd crush remove" I will not got the undersized
> > > objects? That is, this is not the same thing as simply turning off the OSD
> > > and waiting for the cluster to be restored?
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Wido den Hollander" <w...@42on.com>
> > > > To: "Fyodor Ustinov" <u...@ufm.su>, "ceph-users" <
> > > ceph-users@lists.ceph.com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, 30 January, 2019 15:05:35
> > > > Subject: Re: [ceph-users] Right way to delete OSD from cluster?
> > > >
> > > > On 1/30/19 2:00 PM, Fyodor Ustinov wrote:
> > > > > Hi!
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought I should first do "ceph osd out", wait for the end
> > > relocation of the misplaced objects and after that do "ceph osd purge".
> > > > > But after "purge" the cluster starts relocation again.
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe I'm doing something wrong? Then what is the correct way to
> > > delete the OSD from the cluster?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > You are not doing anything wrong, this is the expected behavior. There
> > > > are two CRUSH changes:
> > > >
> > > > - Marking it out
> > > > - Purging it
> > > >
> > > > You could do:
> > > >
> > > > $ ceph osd crush remove osd.X
> > > >
> > > > Wait for all good
> > > >
> > > > $ ceph osd purge X
> > > >
> > > > The last step should then not initiate any data movement.
> > > >
> > > > Wido
> > > >
> > > > > WBR,
> > > > >     Fyodor.
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