I think nader said it best when asked about the difference between the
republicans and democrats... He said "What difference?".
FYI - Gore has stated many times that he wants to INCREASE military
spending.
FYI - The Clintons made a ton of money of insider trading options deals, and
many of their 'business partners' ended up dead.
pot calling the kettle black? you betcha
-GK
>From: "Gary McNeel, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Waaay OT: US elections (tongue in cheek)
>Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 13:20:46 -0600
>
>Honesty? Please. Talk to Richard M. Nixon and his ENTIRE Republican Cabinet
>(you know, the ones that went to prison). He WAS going to be impeached. No
>doubt about it. He IS THE president who was forced to resign. The only one
>in the twentieth century to do so (at least that I can think of). Good
>leader though, his men followed him. But then, Saddam's men follow him too.
>Granted, politically he did do some good for the country.
>
>Leadership? Reagan lead us into the worst national debt of any nation. 4
>trillion dollars. Caused much of the problems of today. Sheesh, Bill gates
>doesn't make that much in a WHOLE year. For what, protecting us against the
>Evil Empire. Please (again). Actually, it was about making more money for
>his cronies, the Military Industrial Complex (MIC). Russia was broke and
>fragmenting even then. I know, I was in Africa with Russian aircrews in the
>early 80's. Their equipment was in a shambles, they were afraid to fly
>their
>aircraft. Even as he left office in the late 50's Eisenhower tried to warn
>us about them the MIC. We all knew, everyone in the military at the time,
>that Star Wars and such is BS, still is. Star Wars is a good name for the
>program, strictly sci-fi, but it lines the pockets of a lot of people right
>now. Reagan was stuck in the 50's, I think he still is. I know, I know, it
>was a Democrat lead congress, etc. etc. But the budget is proposed by the
>sitting president and his party. It was Reagan's budget that made it in. Go
>back and look at the rhetoric of the time. It was McCarthy all over again.
>"You must be a commie if you don't want to increase military spending."
>
>Morality? Um. Now that's a good one. George Jr. can fill in the blanks on
>that one. If he doesn't lie to do so (oh, wait, he is protecting his
>family). Please (again). In this era it is best, if you want to protect
>your
>family, to not get in the public eye. If he didn't see that one coming he
>is
>a bigger idiot than I thought. I am from Texas and I can tell you he didn't
>do a thing to help out the poor (or middle class for that matter). He did
>nothing for education, tax decreases or anything else. Let's face it, he is
>ONLY interested in making money. Even the stadium deals are principally
>paid
>for with tax-payer money (to wit the increased taxes in areas around
>Dallas-Fort Worth). Then this group he runs with sells it and keeps the
>cash. He made $18 million last year. And he doesn't DO anything. I'm sure
>he
>and his family can understand the common people. Yep, he needs to be
>President. Please (again).
>
>You can also thank the Republican administration for the War on Drugs. That
>costs this country a pretty penny every year. Let's see, the Cold War is
>ending, in spite of their best efforts to keep it going. The MIC (see
>above)
>see it's bread and butter drying up, the taxpayers would never go for more
>military spending. Oh, yeah, now there's an idea. Let's create another war,
>the Drug War. We'll enlist the CIA too, they are great at this sort of
>thing. And let's re-direct that money into arming our law-enforcement
>officers like soldiers; body armor, high-capacity, high-caliber weapons,
>military style training, etc. Why has the military not gone down with the
>end of the Cold War, but actually increased? Let me guess, we are getting
>ready for an attack from space.
>
>It is extremely costly to America. And we end up with a country conflicted
>with itself. We spend billions and billions (and no, Carl Sagan did NOT say
>that) on this "war" while our children go unfed and uneducated. Other
>countries laugh at us. Our birth mortality rate is equal to some third
>world
>countries. We have more people in prison than some countries have
>populations.
>
>Don't get me wrong here, I am not a conspiracy theorist, not in the least.
>Hell, they couldn't even hide the President getting a BJ. No, it's just
>business as usual. The difference is that people (lobbyist, advisors and
>such) no far better now how to lead the people down the trail they want. I
>feel like CRITICAL THINKING is a thing of the past. SKEPTICISM has been
>equated with CYNICISM. It is not.
>
>That all said, why does Bill Clinton get such high approval ratings? Let's
>see, a majority of us must be base and of low moral character. Or it could
>be we recognize that people are human and people do human things. Bill got
>caught. Linda Tripp, whose integrity Monica trusted, actually had no
>integrity. Let me guess, she did for the good of the nation. Not that Bill
>had much integrity either. It is just the pot calling the kettle black. We
>just tend to put people like presidents up on pedestals that they
>inevitably must fall from, no one is immune from making mistakes. This all
>reminds me of a Good Conduct Medal. You don't get it for good conduct, you
>get it for not getting caught. Bill wouldn't get one (besides, he never
>served, damn draft dodger) ;).
>
>The saddest part is that it is not the fault, ultimately, of either party.
>We are ALL responsible. I hear people talk about Government like it is the
>enemy. It is OUR neighbors, it is us. It is here to serve and help us. It
>is
>not the size of government that is the problem, it is the way our elected
>leaders choose to use it. Mainly, for their and their friends own benefit.
>
>Sorry for the diatribe, just some thoughts, however wrong they may be.
>
>=Gary
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: George Kaytor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 9:34 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Waaay OT: US elections (tongue in cheek)
> >
> >
> > Typical Democrat,
> >
> > Takes the survival of an impeachment as greatness. I guess things like
> > honesty, leadership, and morality are attributes not considered when
> > computing greatness by our democratic brethren.
> >
> > And for your civics lesson today, Congress creates all new laws. The
> > republican appointed chairman ( Greenspan ) of the federal reserve board
> > sets the real economic policy of the country. The only thing you can
>give
> > clinton is that he stayed out of the way.
> >
> > By the way, what was his first campaign promise? Universal healthcare?
> > hahahahaha
> >
> > -GK
> >
> >
> > >From: John Allred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: Re: Waaay OT: US elections (tongue in cheek)
> > >Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 07:49:51 -0600
> > >
> > >George Kaytor wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I think the guy was just trying to prevent people like you
> > from making
> > >total
> > > > idiots out of themselves. I guess the REPUBLICAN controlled
> > congress had
> > > > nothing to do with the prosperity of recent years?
> > > >
> > >
> > >It certainly didn't do much to help. Major successes? Let's see:
>failure
> > >to win a decisive majority in 1996, 1998, or 2000? Hmm. Impeachment?
> > >Score one. Conviction in the Senate? Down in flames.
> > >
> > >No, the successes of the past eight years were accomplished in spite of
> > >the U.S. Congress.
> > >
> > >(Love this stuff)
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