Glad you cleared that up. I was a little confused. :)

Benjamin S. Rogers
Web Developer, c4.net
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-----Original Message-----
From: Braver, Ben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 2:05 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Be Part of the ColdFusion 5.0 Launch!


George,

I think you are also getting the two Bens confused, sir

Ben Braver (not Benjamin Rogers)

-----Original Message-----
From: George Kaytor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:58 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Be Part of the ColdFusion 5.0 Launch!


Now Ben, Matt asked what the partner program meant to us..... to me it was
nfr products to play with and ability to attend special events..... I didn't

mean to suggest that Matt didn't know the facts and I hope he didn't take it

that way.... Or is ben still playing with mind?

-george


>From: "Benjamin S. Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Be Part of the ColdFusion 5.0 Launch!
>Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 13:34:04 -0400
>
>I think he was asking for your response to these benefits. I'm sure he
>knows
>what services, products and discounts Allaire partners are eligible for. :)
>What he probably needs to know is what you thought of all that. Perhaps
>even
>make a few suggestions for improvements?
>
>I can't comment on what it was like to be an Allaire partner, but I can
>comment on why we didn't become partners. I've worked for two companies who
>made use of Allaire products. In both cases, we were contacted repeatedly
>by
>Allaire asking us to become partners. In every situation, it was my
>suggestion that we shouldn't bother as it seemed that we would be jumping
>through hoops for a lack luster title, that it was more a bragging right
>for
>Allaire to have a lot of partners than it was a benefit for us to be a
>partner. After all, our clients have never heard of Allaire or ColdFusion,
>much less if we were Allaire partners.
>
>As for the benefits, only two or three Allaire products interest us. I
>mean,
>yeah it might be nice to receive a copy of Kawa or JRun and if I had the
>time to waste, I might even install them and play with them. But really,
>all
>we care about is ColdFusion and Studio. As far as the product discounts go,
>I've heard that partners no longer get the generous discounts that they
>used
>to.
>
>Now, if partners got a substantial discount on products that would help us
>deploy more ColdFusion servers or sell ColdFusion hosting for less (or make
>more off of it), then we would give more consideration to joining. As is,
>becoming an Allaire partner will (seemingly) only get us a couple copies of
>software that we'll actually use. That would help us deploy one more server
>and one more developer workstation. That's an alright proposition, but all
>things being equal, we're just going to take the path of least resistance
>and just keep doing what we're doing.
>
>Benjamin S. Rogers
>Web Developer, c4.net
>Voice: (508) 240-0051
>Fax: (508) 240-0057
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: George Kaytor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 12:45 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: RE: Be Part of the ColdFusion 5.0 Launch!
>
>
>Basically as an allaire partner, you received a nfr version of every
>product
>they made. This allowed you to evaluate their products, and to devlop /
>train on their products without having to purchase a fully licensed
>product.
>In addition, alliare sponsored events for partners, such as the current
>road
>show with ben forta.
>
>-george
>
>
> >From: Matt Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: Be Part of the ColdFusion 5.0 Launch!
> >Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:15:38 -0700
> >
> >I know it really sounds callous, but we are working very hard right now
>on
> >the partnership program and how that works with Macromedia and Allaire.
>The
> >MM programs were quite different than the Allaire programs and we are
> >trying to get those normalized and rolled out.
> >
> >Since I am less familiar with the Allaire processes, can you guys tell me
> >how your relationship with Allaire worked? As community manager, I would
> >really like to get your perceptions on how the program worked and what
>you
> >liked and didn't like.
> >
>
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