Sorry I’m late folks, very busy. Anyway. Gruss,
Do you think you are in the center because you’re all the way to left except for one issue where you're all the way to the right? You're not, your all the way on the left you just don't know it. Very few people are all the way to the Right or Left. That would mean 90% of the population is in the center. The reality is most people favor one side or the other. Those that don't just aren't paying attention or can't. Every liberal I know says they're in the middle but after a few minutes it's easy to tell they’re not. When people start quoting Michael Moore you know they're Liberal, no one else can ignore all the facts and still believe such nonsense. You'll say the same about me because I listen to Rush Limbaugh. My point here is they think they're impartial but they tend to believe the hype from one side and not trust the other. Sure you'll find a few that fit Jim’s definitions but that's rare and mainly found with voters not politician. My favorite politician was Pat Moynihan the guy Hillary replaced. He was a Dem but crossed the line often. He might have been in the center but he was way to the left on some issues and way to the right on others. I think that made him an outer rim :) You claim Bush is Right Wing but they aren’t strong supporters, you proved that with the conservative that endorsed him which you tried to pass it off as a magazine endorsement. The conservatives don’t like him because they think he’s too liberal with Immigration, the borders, government spending and I’m sure there are lots more. The fact that he crossed the line to work with Kennedy for the education program angered many but didn’t make him a centrist. Now you may want to believe McCain is in the center but he's not. Many people here claim he didn't run with Kerry because he's toeing the party line. Well that means he's not in the center. He could have easily told Kerry no and let it end there. Instead he went to the press each time he was asked. The third time he told the press there was no way he'd ever run with Kerry so stop asking. Then he campaigned for Bush. If he really was in the center you think he would have went out of his way to slam Kerry? The irony is if it was anyone else he might actually have proven me wrong and played the middle. See McCain must hate, yes hate, Kerry with a passion. Don't forget McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton while Kerry was helping his tormentors, and now he's claiming he's a war hero. Then he asks a prisoner of war to be his running mate. What gall. And you think this guys bright enough to bring other countries along on the war against terror? Which brings me to the war. You support Kerry because you think Bush made a major mistake going to Iraq. And you think Kerry will do the right thing. Well, the other day Kerry said if he was President now, Saddam might not be in power. Kerry: "That's what you have inspectors for. That's why I voted for the threat of force, because he only does things when you have a legitimate threat of force. It's irresponsible to suggest that if I were President, he wouldn't be gone. He might be gone, because if he hadn't complied, we might have had to go to war, but if we did, we would have gone with allies, so the American people weren't carrying the entire burden. And the entire world would understand why we did it." http://www.drudgereportarchives.com/data/2004/10/29/20041029_140826_flash5.htm Now everyone in the world except Kerry knows France, Germany and Russia would not have helped removed Saddam from power last year no matter who asked them to. Kerry's living a fantasy and you're supporting it. Like Bush said, if you don't like what Kerry said, just wait awhile and it will change. He’s all over the place, no wonder he won’t talk to Woodward even though he has the questions in advance. Another point you brought up was the military is more likely to support Kerry because he fought. The military does not like him. Most of the career officers where in Viet Nam, and now the guy that put them through hell is going to be their boss? Not a good thing. Remember when Clinton was President many of the top military men left, like Powel. They couldn't stand the fact that someone who went to England and burned the American flag was now their Commander and Chief. What Kerry did was a lot worse than burn a flag. Also, three quarters of the military say they’re voting for Bush. As to who you’re candidate is, you only believe what you want so no matter what, only what Kerry says is good. But when he changes his mind a day later are you still with him? --- Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Prove it: > > I'm fiscally conservative and socially liberal. > That means I believe > in a small federal government, state's rights, and a > balanced budget. > It also means I believe in keeping religion out of > government, keeping > the government out of our houses and bedrooms, and > legalized drugs and > prostitution. Essentially I'm for freedom and civil > liberties, and > not the Patriot act. > > If the center is a scam, then who is my candidate if > my top issue if > fiscal conservativism? > > In this election the person who meets the most of > those criteria, and > best fits my weighted top issue, is John Kerry. If > Mr. McCain were > running, however, he would fit more of those issues. > > Prove to me that Mr. Bush fits those criteria better > and I'll vote for > him. I'm an issues voter not in a cult of > personality. > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=37 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:133459 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
