Very eloquent. But there's a fundamental contradiction in the current political climate. For example, I received an email from a homeschooling group endorsing George Bush because, they said, he was the more likely of the two candidates to leave homeschooling alone
I am all in favor of government leaving me the hell alone. Really. But how does that parse with requiring schools to teach children to take tests rather than to reason? How do you reconcile that with regulating contraception or worse still access to scientific information? I don't think this is conservatism. Dana On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 22:56:12 -0500, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In the states where Gay Marriage was on the ballot, it was a big margin in a > number of states. But isn't this part of a government by the people. 75% to > 25% here in Kentucky. > > The President was reelected with a majority of the popular vote as well, > something that hasn't happened in 16 years, these are things that are very > interesting, it seems that the large turnout this year were the republicans > that didn't come out 4 years ago, and this time they weren't going to let > what happened last time cause problems this time. > > Is it any surprise what has happened? Bush stood strong, and never changed > his story, or even the way he told it. Even if you don't think Kerry changed > his mind, you have to admit that he didn't always sound sure of himself, you > could tell he didn't care for the Bush policies, but it was hard for me to > tell if the stuff he was saying was what he believed, or just what he was > told to say. While Bush may very well have been told to say it, you could > tell the he thought it was right, and more than right, he made it look like > his ideas should be common sense. > > Bush is a smart man, regardless of what people say, he may not be a good > politician, but he is a very good sales man, and he was able to sell the > country on his ideas. Not only was he responsible for one of the biggest > turnouts in a long time, he managed to get a high turnout to come up in > favor of a Republican and an incumbent, some that historically has been > fairly hard. > > I think what we have seen here is that the American people want the > freedoms, but they also want to ensure that their communities maintain a > moral standard they are comfortable with. We don't really care what > individuals from other countries think. We are talking about the image the > US wants to portray, and to us cowboy isn't a bad word. > > I was talking to a guy from Switzerland a while back, he said that it was a > bad thing that the rest of the world saw our President as a Cowboy. He meant > that as an insult to him. I really didn't know what to think. Growing up we > thought a Cowboy was a good thing, I really didn't have a reply to that, I > just thought 'So What'. > > In a country where the people are the government, we elect representatives > to write the laws and to vote while we perform the tasks that keep our > civilization going. We cannot separate Politics from our Culture; this > country was founded out of political strife. Our culture and our way of life > grew out of a general distrust for overly powerful politicians and monarchs. > We determined that we the people hold the key, but at the same time we must > continue with the Business of running society, and elect others to run the > country, however we have maintained that at least once a year we have a > chance to address some of the people we have elected, we can determine if we > agree with them, not just politically, but morally, socially, culturally, > and in some cases we just might not like they way they smile, or laugh, we > have the freedom in the country to base our ideas on the most meaningless of > principles to most important issues a society will ever face. > > So long as we continue to be Humans, we will never separate our politics > from our culture, our culture from our morals, and our morals from our > politics. To do so would be a disservice to our foundation and our own > souls. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:09 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Election: Political or Cultural? > > There's been much talk about how exit polls showed "values" equal to > or higher than Iraq, terrorism, or the economy. And there is no > doubt that the Republican's victory last night was stunning. > > But, to me, something seems different this time. This time it seems > as if the election was cultural rather than political. We've seen the > trouncing of Gay Marriage and the emergence of religion as policy > rather than policy based on ethics and ethics flowing from religion. > > Maybe this is controversial, but if it's true that a majority of > people in this country want a more Christian governed country, a > country with the 10 commandments in government buildings, "under God" > in our pledge, and the elimination of "activist judges" who are > "activist" because they don't agree with the President, well, I have > to wonder if that's a people that share my values. > > Certainly I love the freedoms we have, but I feel as if they're being > eroded or, more accurately, given away by 51% of this country. > > Maybe things will drift back to a more ecumenical position in 2 or 4 > years, but from where I stand we're at the doorstep of an American > cultural revolution and, based on the election last night, I'm in the > minority. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:134100 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
