Ok ok, I am slacking. I see some new names - yes I do, and I know I'm missing people. So, today will be a huge bake day - but! I need help!!!!
Who's new here and who wants muffins and what kind? :D Welcome to all the new peeps, glad to have you aboard. Consider this your official welcome message! If you miss it, well then you get no muffins. :P Cheers, Erika -------------------------------------------------- >>| -----Original Message----- >>| From: Dana >>| >>| hey, you're slacking, girl. Someone was saying a few days >>| ago that his >>| co-worker had signed up to the list without being muffined. Ah now, >>| *I* remember a time when these sorts of things didn't happen.... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:139950 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54 From jeff Wed Dec 15 15:42:56 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 07:42:56 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:42:56 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx23.postini.com ([64.18.0.138] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CebIm-0006tG-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:42:56 -0800 Received: from source ([66.33.206.23]) by exprod5mx23.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:45:35 PST Received: from che.dreamhost.com (che.dreamhost.com [66.33.216.23]) by frida.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5642316D22C; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:45:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from che.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by che.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15144988A1; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:45:32 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from sack.dreamhost.com (sack.dreamhost.com [66.33.213.6]) by che.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E85898898 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:45:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from host220.ipowerweb.com (host220.ipowerweb.com [66.235.203.181]) by sack.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4816E13D937 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:45:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 20341 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2004 15:41:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO athlon) (68.162.154.99) by host220.ipowerweb.com with SMTP; 15 Dec 2004 15:41:52 -0000 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Inter-Job Communication References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Phoebus Dokos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: dokos-gr Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=utf-8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:45:29 -0500 In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> User-Agent: Opera M2/7.54 (Win32, build 3869) Cc: X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: QL/SMS mailing list <ql-users-q-v-d.com.lists.q-v-d.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.q-v-d.com/listinfo.cgi/ql-users-q-v-d.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://lists.q-v-d.com/private.cgi/ql-users-q-v-d.com> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.q-v-d.com/listinfo.cgi/ql-users-q-v-d.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.6 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY autolearn=no version=2.64 Την Wed, 15 Dec 2004 16:43:36 +0100,ο(η) François Van Emelen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> έγραψε/wrote: > Hi Rich, > You could try this: > > 100 rem ram1_test_bas > 105 open#0,con_:cls#0 > 110 OPEN#4,'pipe_essai_100' :rem open named pipe > 115 TestVar=2 > 120 PRINT #4;TestVar :rem send data to pipe > 125 eX 'ram1_Double_bas',,#4 :rem or ex 'ram1_Double_obj',,#4 if > qliberated > 130 rem this works fine too: eX 'ram1_Double_bas' or ex > 'ram1_Double_obj' if qliberated > 135 rem open named pipe created in ram1_double_bas for input > 140 open_in#3,pipe_retour :input#3,R > 145 PRINT#0, testVar;' doubled =';R :rem close#4 > 150 PAUSE :rem pause should be avoided in compiled progs IIRC > > 100 rem ram1_double_bas > 105 ChIN=0:ChOUT=1 > 110 open_in#chin,pipe_essai :rem open named pipe for input from test_bas > 115 rem REPeat loop > 120 INPUT #ChIN;value :rem fetch value in pipe > 125 value=value*2 :r=value > 130 open#ChOUT,pipe_retour:print#chout,r ::close#chout:stop > 135 rem END REPeat loop > > I hope I understood correctly what you are(were) trying to achieve. If > not sorry for the disturbance. So apparently you have to open two different pipes (named as well) correct? Phoebus _______________________________________________ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm From jeff Wed Dec 15 15:42:57 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 07:42:57 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:42:57 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx127.postini.com ([64.18.0.41] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CebIn-0006tR-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:42:57 -0800 Received: from source ([200.69.193.69]) by exprod5mx127.postini.com ([exprod5mx127.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:45:37 EST Received: from eclipsa (unknown [200.68.73.141]) by sermon.iplannetworks.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2BE397B943 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:28:40 -0300 (ART) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:45:35 -0300 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?C=E9sar=20Peralta?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Newell's Old Boys Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: El campeon con menos puntos To: Newell's Old Boys Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Mailer: Xtreeme MailXpert 2.0.54 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-pstn-levels: (S:60.27800/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD, MISSING_MIMEOLE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.64 Es verdad che, me rompe soberanamente las pelotas que digan eso, el que lo repite hasta el cansancio de la TV es el malparido sin aliento colorado hijo de puta de FOX SPORT, cada vez que tiene que presentar una nota de la lepra dice: "y pasando a Newells, el campeon con menos puntos de torneos cortos..." me dan unas ganas de ir y recagarlo a patadas, pero por otro lado pienso: lo hacen de bronca tambien, porque les afecta el bolsillo y eso les molesta. Asi que bueh, mejor es que consumamos buena TV y no nos afecte este tipo de engendros de la TV. Che, a todo esto, Canal 3 hizo una propaganda felicitando a =D1uls, pero los de Canal 5??? Yo recuerdo que en el 92 hasta pusieron la marcha de =D1uls pero ahora? que les pas=F3? a los dos en general, porque la de canal 3 no se si la vieron pero es media media... Bueno gente sigamos alentando y disfrutando C=E9sar --- Zemiyo de Ca=F1amo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribi=F3: = > Curiosidades > = > Seguramente, como ya he o=EDdo por varias partes, > quienes no pueden disfrutar > de este excelente logro rojinegro buscar=E1n mil y un > motivos para > minimizarlo. > Es asi como por algun lugar he o=EDdo que "Newell's es > el campe=F3n con menos > puntos en torneos cortos". > = > Para despejar todo este tipo de rid=EDculas dudas, y > para que tengan > argumentos a mano ante el primer nabo que les venga > con esto que hasta los > propios period=EDstas creen, he aqu=ED la realidad. > = > En torneos cortos de 19 fechas, el equipo que menor > cantidad de puntos sac=F3 > fu=E9 el River del Apertura 93: > 24 PUNTOS: 9 Ganados - 6 Empatados - 4 Perdidos > = > Y le sigue el Independiente del Clausura 2004: > 26 PUNTOS: 8 Ganados - 10 Empratados - 1 Perdido > = > Claro, en aquella =E9poca los partidos ganados sumaban > dos puntos, dir=E1n, pero > ni as=ED: > = > En el caso de River, sumando 3 por partido ganado, > hubiera sacado 33 PUNTOS. > En el caso de Independiente, 34 PUNTOS, contra 36 de > NEWELLS. > = > De donde habr=E1 salido ese versito idiota del campe=F3n > con menos puntos, anda > a saber... quiero creer que no habr=E1 venido > justamente de ellos... de esos > que no alientan al campeon CON MENOS PUNTOS EN > TORNEOS LARGOS... > = > --- > Newell's Old Boys's Mailing List > = > Para desubscribirse enviar un mensaje a > [EMAIL PROTECTED] con UNSUBSCRIBE en el subject. > Para ayuda sobre otros comandos, pone HELP en el > subject. > = > = > ------> Sent using an evaluation version of Xtreeme > MailXpert. > This version can be used for non-commercial > evaluation purposes only. > = __________________________________________________ Correo Yahoo! 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This version can be used for non-commercial evaluation purposes only.= From jeff Wed Dec 15 15:43:02 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 07:43:02 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:43:02 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx115.postini.com ([64.18.0.87] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CebIs-0006u3-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:43:02 -0800 Received: from source ([128.36.229.215]) by exprod5mx115.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:45:43 EST Received: from haskell.cs.yale.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www.haskell.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7D53687FA; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:33:49 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from hinken.sparud.net (hinken.appgate.com [212.214.117.94]) by www.haskell.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282143687ED for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:33:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.skri.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hinken.sparud.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F09BCEB4739 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 16:45:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from 194.237.142.10 (SquirrelMail authenticated user johnsson); by mail.skri.net with HTTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 16:45:33 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 16:45:33 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Parse text difficulty From: "Thomas Johnsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Haskell Cafe <haskell-cafe.haskell.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://www.haskell.org//pipermail/haskell-cafe> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 >> > printastable :: [([Int],Word)] -> String >> > >> > printastable l = concat $ map (\(xs,w) -> (show xs) ++ " " ++ w ++ >> > "\n") l >> >> I'd use >> >> [ c | (xs,w) <- l, c <- (show xs) ++ " " ++ w ++ "\n" ] >> >> instead -- after all, list comprehensions provide a much nicer >> syntax for map, filter and concat. > > I try to stay away from list comprehension because I can't memorize in > which order the conditions are processed and I have to introduce new > variables. [..] I find it helpful to compare list comprehensions to nested loops & ifs in imperative languages, so that eg [ E | v1 <- E1, pred2, v3 <- E3 ] 'does the same thing as' for( v1 <- E1 ){ if( pred2 ){ for( v3 <- E3){ put-elem-in-resulting-list( E ) } } } -- Thomas _______________________________________________ Haskell-Cafe mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe From jeff Wed Dec 15 15:42:59 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 07:42:59 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@mail-archive.com Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:42:59 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx123.postini.com ([64.18.0.37] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CebIp-0006ta-00 for <archive@mail-archive.com>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:42:59 -0800 Received: from source ([64.118.64.245]) by exprod5mx123.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:45:38 CST Received: from LOCALHOST by LOCALHOST with ESMTP id 386F50391BC27249A6509A72DF442B5B Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:47:12 -0500 Subject: Muffins & OFFICIAL Welcome (was RE: Erika? You're a Mets fan, right?) From: "Erika L. Walker-Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain Precedence: bulk Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:45:06 -0500 References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-pstn-levels: (S:93.85709/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.5022 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> forward (good recip) [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 Ok ok, I am slacking. I see some new names - yes I do, and I know I'm missing people. So, today will be a huge bake day - but! I need help!!!! Who's new here and who wants muffins and what kind? :D Welcome to all the new peeps, glad to have you aboard. Consider this your official welcome message! If you miss it, well then you get no muffins. :P Cheers, Erika -------------------------------------------------- >>| -----Original Message----- >>| From: Dana >>| >>| hey, you're slacking, girl. Someone was saying a few days >>| ago that his >>| co-worker had signed up to the list without being muffined. Ah now, >>| *I* remember a time when these sorts of things didn't happen.... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:139950 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54 From jeff Wed Dec 15 15:43:02 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 07:43:02 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:43:02 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx116.postini.com ([64.18.0.88] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CebIr-0006u5-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:43:01 -0800 Received: from source ([216.125.202.199]) by exprod5mx116.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:45:43 PST Received: (qmail 4930 invoked by uid 80); 15 Dec 2004 15:30:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 4922 invoked by alias); 15 Dec 2004 15:30:48 -0000 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavis-ng-0.1.6.4-03dc on tech-geeks.org X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:30:39 -0600 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [tech-geeks] Nickle Lease Levy? Thread-Index: AcTitY+M8ok6obSTTWybpWs+6QMR8QAAyrcw From: "Steele, Thomas C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [tech-geeks] Nickle Lease Levy? X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 (Putting my School Board Member hat on) Often, even if the administration wants to levy it, the board won't. It tends to be one of those "just because you can, doesn't mean you should" situations. Chris is exactly right about small towns -- especially where the main "industry" is still the family farm. The board I am on has never even maxed the ed fund levy in the 8 years I have been serving. I'm sure they would not consider the nickel lease levy. -TS Thomas C. Steele Technology Director Manteno CUSD #5 -----Original Message----- From: Chris Janssen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 8:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [tech-geeks] Nickle Lease Levy? (Speaking with my other hat on) Many administrators will not want to touch it unless they have to. Yes legally they can do it, but especially in small communities, raising taxes is raising taxes no matter how you do it, and can be the kiss of death. It's a fine line that has to be walked carefully. I certainly wouldn't think many supts would go forth with it without some sort of input from the tax payers (even though they can legally). Chris Janssen Technology Coordinator Avon CUSD 176 Avon, Illinois [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.avonschools.us 309-465-3621 Fax - 309-465-7194 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Jim Hays [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 7:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Nickle Lease Levy? I brought this up to our sup't last year. He didn't want to touch it. =20 We do not levy the $.05. 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Nichel berGeek KegWorks.com 716.856.9675 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php From jeff Wed Dec 15 15:43:43 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 07:43:43 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@mail-archive.com Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:43:43 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx32.postini.com ([64.18.0.187] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CebJX-0006v6-00 for <archive@mail-archive.com>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:43:43 -0800 Received: from source ([66.98.138.60]) (using TLSv1) by exprod5mx32.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:46:24 PST Received: from secure1.company-hosting.net ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by fesim.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBFFeOnA012945 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 08:40:24 -0700 X-ClientAddr: 209.152.174.160 Received: from mail.zoneedit.com (mail.zoneedit.com [209.152.174.160]) by secure1.company-hosting.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBFFeL3f012933 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 08:40:21 -0700 Received: from lists.iparenting.com (lists.iparenting.com [38.118.204.150]) by mail.zoneedit.com (Postfix) with SMTP id DCB413EF3A for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:45:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:44:15 -0500 From: "Rena Wolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "bfing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [bfing] Re: nursing to sleep To: "bfing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Mailer: AOL Communicator (20030919.3 Win) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/HTML; CHARSET=us-ascii X-ELNK-Trace: e8cdcf539f41d96cae758d3426fed69f239a348a220c26095c89bad188ba4b868a17456ca80f1bd4667c3043c0873f7e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 129.1.192.38 List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-DBHostingEnsim4.1-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DBHostingEnsim4.1-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:49.66415/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.4 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY,MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.64 <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <title></title> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff"> <font face="Arial,sans-serif"><font size="2">I agree with you, Pamela. My son likes to be near me or my husband when he's sleeping also. We sleep with just a mattress on the floor. No box, no frame, just a mattress so that he is safe. <br> <br> As far as keeping him up longer, that only works to a certain point with my son. He seems to have a 'critical period' when we need to try to put him to sleep...If we wait too long, then it is a big fight. However, if we try too soon, it is also a fight. <br> <br> We also are careful to stimulate him only during waking hours. At night, we have the 'soundscapes' music channel on as relaxing noise. This we have done since I was pregnant with him. The wonderful thing about sleeping with him is that I can respond to his needs without allowing him to awaken fully since I am right there and don't have to turn on the lights and such. <br> <br> There's my .02 in response to yours :)<br> (Though, I'm probably up to 1.02 by now...LOL)<br> <br> Rena<br> <br> <br> <span type="cite">Pamela Hanson wrote on 12/15/2004, 9:49 AM:</span> </font></font> <p><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"></font></p> <blockquote type="cite" style="border-left: thin solid blue; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 0pt;"><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"></font> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">OK - here is my .02 -My son is almost two. He has always been quick to wake. He still wakes on many nights. Often from birth the only thing that gave him peace in sleep is to sleep with me. He just likes to be near me. I don't think it means anything is wrong. I think often little ones just need mommy. For me it would be worth it even if I need to sleep on the floor for safety. You are the ultimate comfort for your baby. </font></div> <font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"></font> <div><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"> </font></div> <font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"></font> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Also I have read this wont work... but it does for me. If I keep my son up longer he sleeps better and longer. I worked slowly at lengthening his awake times and lessening the amount of naps. I am careful to stimulate him during waking times and provide consistent white noise during sleep times. </font></div> <font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"></font> <div><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"> </font></div> <font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"></font> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">That's my thought for what its worth. </font></div> <font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"></font> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Happy Holidays!</font></div> <font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"></font> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Pamela</font></div> <font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"></font> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;"><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"> </font> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none;"><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2">----- Original Message ----- </font></div> <font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"> </font> <div style="background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0%; -moz-background-clip: initial; -moz-background-origin: initial; font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none;"><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"><b>From:</b> <a title="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">Rena Wolf</a> </font></div> <font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"> </font> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none;"><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"><b>To:</b> <a title="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">bfing</a> </font></div> <font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"> </font> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none;"><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 14, 2004 10:09 PM</font></div> <font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"> </font> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none;"><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"><b>Subject:</b> [bfing] Re: nursing to sleep</font></div> <font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"> </font> <div><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"><br> </font></div> <font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"><font size="2">Fear is a normal reaction to an unknown situation, with varying degrees of severity. We have all felt it at some time, I'm sure. </font></font><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"><font size="2">That does not make it a sensory problem/disorder. I know that I myself have been upset to the point of feeling like vomiting, yet I am also confident that I have no sensory disorders. </font></font><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"><font size="2">The point is that with the limited amount of information that has been given, along with not being physicians, we should be wary of diagnosing disorders.<br> </font></font><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"><font size="2"> </font></font><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"><font size="2"><br> Also, to answer your question, "Is fear not something wrong?" I would have to say yes, in the child's eyes, there is something wrong ... being alone does not feel right to her as it is an unknown situation. </font></font><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"><font size="2"><br> <br> <span type="cite">ml obermaier wrote on 12/14/2004, 9:15 PM:</span> </font> </font><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"> </font> <blockquote style="border-left: thin solid blue; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 0pt;" type="cite"><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"> </font> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">is fear not something wrong<br> </font></div> <font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"> </font> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;"><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"> </font> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none;"><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2">----- Original Message ----- </font></div> <font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"> </font> <div style="background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 50% 0%; -moz-background-clip: initial; -moz-background-origin: initial; font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none;"><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"><b>From:</b> <a title="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">Rena Wolf</a> </font></div> <font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"> </font> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none;"><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"><b>To:</b> <a title="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">bfing</a> </font></div> <font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"> </font> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none;"><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 14, 2004 7:34 PM</font></div> <font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"> </font> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none;"><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"><b>Subject:</b> [bfing] Re: nursing to sleep</font></div> <font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"> </font> <div><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"><br> </font></div> <font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"><font size="2">I beg to differ with this. Not necessarily does her behavior indicate that there is something wrong. For a child who is not used to being left alone while crying, she may feel quite fearful. <br> <br> <span type="cite">ml obermaier wrote on 12/14/2004, 7:53 PM:</span> </font></font><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"> </font> <blockquote style="border-left: thin solid blue; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 0pt;" type="cite"><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"> </font> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">If a child is that upset she probably has something wrong, sensory problems often cause sleep problems, too bad the doctor wanted you to wait it out, I think doing sensory exercise help a lot. ml</font></div> <font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"> </font> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;"><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"> </font> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none;"><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2">----- Original Message ----- </font></div> <font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"> </font> <div style="background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0% 50%; -moz-background-clip: initial; -moz-background-origin: initial; font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none;"><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"><b>From:</b> <a title="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">T Eli</a> </font></div> <font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"> </font> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none;"><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"><b>To:</b> <a title="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">bfing</a> </font></div> <font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"> </font> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none;"><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 14, 2004 1:50 PM</font></div> <font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"> </font> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none;"><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"><b>Subject:</b> [bfing] Re: nursing to sleep</font></div> <font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"> </font> <div><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"><br> </font></div> <font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"> </font> <div><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2">Thanks for the input, Renee, and welcome to the group. You were indeed lucky, and still are truly blessed. We actually did try that with Faith after coming upon the same problem. She cried so hard she threw up. It was horrible. I talked to the doctor, and he said that's ok, it's not harming her, just stick with the plan and eventually she'll come around. He was surprised she was such a strong-willed child, and told us that kind of behavior doesn't usually show up until around 18-24 months. That didn't sit too well with me, but we tried one more night, and that was all we could bear. Listening to her scream on the monitor and start choking, then running in the room to find her and the crib all full of puke was so horrible, and not worth it. I still wouldn't trade this for that, as miserable as this can be sometimes.<br> <br> <b><i>Renee A Crabtree <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"><[EMAIL PROTECTED]></a></i></b> wrote: </font><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"> </font> <blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px;"><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2">Hi, I'm pretty new to this list and this is my first time responding.<br> I, too, am still nursing my almost 8 month old son. He went through a<br> terrible sleep pattern where I would rock him to sleep and the second I<br> bent into a 45 degree angle to put him in his crib, he startled away and<br> would scream his head off. I think a few things led him to this<br> separation anxiety...1) When he wakes up around 5:00 am I bring him to<br> bed with me to nurse and then to go to sleep together. 2) We would rock<br> him to sleep every night. There was nothing we could do to get him to<br> not wake up and cry when placed in his crib. I know there aren't too<br> many fans of the cry-it-out method but since I knew he was not hungry,<br> sick, or had a dirty diaper, I had to do something to get to sleep. We<br> started a bedtime routine...Change into pj's, feed, read 2 books, rock<br> for 100 rocks and then put in his crib. What we did was let him cry for<br> 5 minutes and then check on him. We'd tell him it's okay, we love him<br> and to go to sleep. Then we'd wait another 10 minutes and go back in.<br> Then wait 15 minutes. The longest he ever cried was 30 minutes total.<br> Now, we put him in his crib and he's out in 30 seconds. And he doesn't<br> wake up until 5 or 6 am. It's bliss. I'm sure we were just lucky but I<br> thought I'd share in case it could help. <br> <br> On a side note, if your baby is older he physically should be able to<br> sleep through the night (meaning 5 or 6) without getting hungry. But<br> every baby's different, right?<br> <br> Renee <br> <br> -----Original Message-----<br> From: Tami Spillman [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]</a>] <br> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 6:49 AM<br> To: bfing<br> Subject: [bfing] Re: nursing to sleep<br> <br> <br> ugg.... so you can't even try to adjust your schedule<br> to theirs... eekkk. My Mom says that Terri and I were<br> like a dual alarm clock! We were almost always<br> wanting the SAME thing at the SAME time. They left us<br> together for most of elementary school... we were<br> trouble if spareated. Middle school was the first<br> "alone time" we had. I remember being excited and<br> scared at the same time. Terri said that she was<br> scared to death for the first 2 months everyday..<br> until we would have a class together. By eightth<br> grade... we were switching classes.... LOL. But that<br> first semester of 6th we didn't see each other until<br> it was time to leave.... we DID NOT like it!<br> Tami<br> --- ml obermaier <MOMOF5 @ispwest.com="">wrote:<br> <br> > makes you all feel better Anabelle won't go to sleep<br> > until about 10:30 and<br> > wakes once right after, and Briana goes at 8:30<br> > wakes up at 5:30. They have<br> > been on different schedules since they were born.<br> > ml<br> > <br> > ----- Original Message -----<br> > From: "Tami Spillman" <TAMIJOY1103 @yahoo.com=""><br> > To: "bfing" <BFING @lists.iparenting.com=""><br> > Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 3:36 PM<br> > Subject: [bfing] Re: nursing to sleep<br> > <br> > <br> > > Brennen seems to be going thru that too. He will<br> > NOT<br> > > sleep now until 1am. No matter what I do. I had<br> > both<br> > > the younger two going to bed at 7:30. It was soo<br> > > nice. Now even if I get him to go down then he is<br> > > back up at 9pm and will NOT go back down until<br> > 1am.<br> > > And he gets tricky with the nursing thing. You<br> > see,<br> > > he has figured out that if he nurses, he will fall<br> > to<br> > > sleep and he does NOT want that. It is espesially<br> > > hard with DH having to get up at 3:30am for work.<br> > He<br> > > has spent the last two nights on the couch :-(<br> > > Brennen will not settle for anyone else holding<br> > him<br> > > either. I hope this all changes soon... I am soo<br> > > sleepy.<br> > > Sorry I am not much help.... But I too have a VERY<br> > > messed up house, am wanting a hot bath too. :-(<br> > > Tami<br> > ><br> > > --- T Eli <TERESAMELI @yahoo.com="">wrote:<br> > ><br> > > > Hi, everyone, I need help. I nurse Faith to<br> > sleep<br> > > > for naps and at bedtime. We've had a lot of<br> > > > problems with her and sleep for quite some time,<br> > and<br> > > > it goes in spurts, but lately it's really<br> > wearing on<br> > > > me more and more. She goes down pretty good for<br> > > > naps most of the time. At night, sometimes it's<br> > a<br> > > > long, drawn-out battle (often well over an<br> > hour),<br> > > > other times she's asleep and I'm out of the room<br> > > > within a half hour (I LOVE those nights!!!). We<br> > > > usually try to get her in bed by 8:00, because<br> > that<br> > > > seems to work best for everyone. We have played<br> > > > around with the time a bit to try and make<br> > things<br> > > > better, but this time seems to work best. The<br> > > > problem is, once I do get her to sleep, she<br> > still<br> > > > wakes up a lot. I know that's normal,<br> > especially<br> > > > since I'm still nursing her and co-sleeping.<br> > But<br> > > > she wakes up at least twice before I even get to<br> > > > bed, which I try to usually by 10:00, 11 at the<br> > > > latest. It is getting so frustrating because<br> > she<br> > > > doesn't nap well (usually one half-hour nap a<br> > day,<br> > > > though lately she has been occasionally<br> > sleeping a<br> > > > bit more), so I don't really get a "break"<br> > during<br> > > > the day to get things done. I scramble at night<br> > > > after she goes to bed to rush and get the dishes<br> > > > done, laundry caught up, house cleaned, etc. My<br> > > > hubby is a great help with these things, but I<br> > feel<br> > > > bad because he works long hours and then does so<br> > > > much housework. And we still can't seem to keep<br> > up.<br> > > > I've relaxed a lot on the cleaning, but there's<br> > a<br> > > > point where you have to draw the line - I mean,<br> > > > laundry and dishes can only wait so long! DH<br> > and I<br> > > > hardly ever get time to just sit and spend time<br> > > > together, and I NEVER get "me" time. I can't<br> > even<br> > > > relax in a hot bath - every time I try, as soon<br> > as I<br> > > > get the tub filled and get in the tub, Faith<br> > wakes<br> > > > up. We've tried having him rock her to sleep,<br> > but<br> > > > she just keeps screaming until I go in and nurse<br> > > > her, even if I don't go in there for over an<br> > hour.<br> > > > I don't know what to do!!!! I don't want to<br> > wean<br> > > > her until she's ready, but that seems<br> > > > like the only "solution". Does anyone have any<br> > > > ideas to help????<br> </TERESAMELI></BFING></TAMIJOY1103></MOMOF5></font></blockquote> </div> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> <font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2">---<br> You are currently subscribed to bfing as: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</a><br> To unsubscribe send a blank email to <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:%%email.unsub%%";>%%email.unsub%%</a> </font></blockquote> ---<BR> You are currently subscribed to bfing as: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<BR> To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] </BODY> </html>
