Yeah, I've generally heard them with "surrealist" instead of "existentialist" which makes more sense to me.
-Kevin On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:25:24 -0600, Jim Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW - those aren't my jokes - I don't remember where I first heard them, > but they're a couple > of my odd little favorites. > > - Jim > > Gruss Gott wrote: > > >ROTFL! > > > > > >On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:58:34 -0600, Jim Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>Speaking of existentialism, that went to the wrong recipient entirely! > >> > >>And: > >> > >>Q: How many existentialists does it take to change a lightbulb? > >>A: Two. One to train the giraffe, and the other to fill the bathtub > >>with brightly colored machine tools. > >> > >>Alternately: > >> > >>Q: How many existentialists does it take to change a lightbulb? > >>A: The fish. > >> > >>- Jim > >> > >>Jim Campbell wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Probably spaces in the URL :) > >>> > >>>Here you go. > >>> > >>>- Jim > >>> > >>>Dana wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>I read them all in French, either in France or for graduate work at > >>>>American University. Ah except I might have had a look at Being and > >>>>Nothingness in English around the time I encountered Kirkegaard. > >>>> > >>>>If you have a particular passage in mind I could probably find the > >>>>French equivalent and tell you what I think. I'd welcome the practice, > >>>>really, haven't given the language much of a workout in over ten > >>>>years. > >>>> > >>>>Dana > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:01:03 -0600, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Dana, > >>>>> > >>>>>You've referenced the French titles a couple times. Have you read any > >>>>>of the works in both French and then English? I've read some poorly > >>>>>translated German work, but I was really impressed with the use of > >>>>>English in some of the Camus translations I've read but I don't know > >>>>>how they really compare to the original. > >>>>> > >>>>>-Kevin > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 22:27:55 -0700, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>for anyone interested, here is a pretty literate discussion of Camus > >>>>>>as seem by Sartre. Matter of fact, the whole site looks interesting. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>http://www.anotheramerica.org/new_page_6.htm > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Dana > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:139990 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54 From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:42:13 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:42:13 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:42:13 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx126.postini.com ([64.18.0.40] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedAD-0000du-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:42:13 -0800 Received: from source ([146.82.138.6]) by exprod5mx126.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:44:55 EST Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by murphy.debian.org (Postfix) with QMQP id 4F5D12EE65; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:44:43 -0600 (CST) Old-Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from spohr.debian.org (spohr.debian.org [128.193.0.4]) by murphy.debian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B342E61F; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:44:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from debbugs by spohr.debian.org with local (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1Ced1X-00047K-00; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:33:15 -0800 X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Bug#144067: Thanks for listening Reply-To: "Jame Clinton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-From: "Jame Clinton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Resent-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Cc: Debian Install System Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:33:15 UTC Resent-Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Debian-PR-Message: report 144067 X-Debian-PR-Package: boot-floppies X-Debian-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by [EMAIL PROTECTED] id=B144067.110313125332550 (code B ref 144067); Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:33:15 UTC Received: (at 144067) by bugs.debian.org; 15 Dec 2004 17:20:53 +0000 Received: from gluck.debian.org [192.25.206.10] by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1CecpU-00081J-00; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:20:48 -0800 Received: from (192.25.206.10) [222.234.224.33] by gluck.debian.org with smtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1CecpT-0004Qq-00; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:20:47 -0700 Received: from citric.o2.pl ([96.86.136.164]) by tapestry.o2.pl (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.01 (built Aug 29 2004)) with ESMTP id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 16:11:36 -0100 (IST) Received: from fragile.o2.pl ([76.250.7.214]) by citric.o2.pl (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.04 (built Aug 27 2004)) with ESMTP id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ORCPT [EMAIL PROTECTED]); Wed, 15 Dec 2004 22:18:36 +0500 (IST) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 13:20:36 -0400 From: "Jame Clinton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>fragile.o2.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Rc-Virus: 2004-10-30_01 X-Rc-Spam: 2004-08-29_01 X-Mailing-List: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> archive/latest/81472 X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: <debian-boot.lists.debian.org> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/> Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S: 2.08868/99.20120 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.5022 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.0150) gt3 GT2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 You might think that running to the doctor is the answer. 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Dana On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:34:00 -0500, Bill Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I knew there was a reason i loved sonic...and not just for the tastest > freaking food you'll ever eat. > > GOOD NEWS!!! they are thinking of building sonics in South florida!. > If i just raise 1 million dollars i could be a franchise for them and > rake in the bucks. Such a great franchise. > > > On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 15:12:37 -0800, Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I know, and OJ didn't kill anyone. > > > > > > On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 08:07:14 -0600, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Sam wrote: > > > > > > > > I was responding to: "essentially that means she didn't violate the law" > > > > > > > > > > In the US there is a presumption of innocence. If a prosecutor can't > > > make a strong enough case to prove guilt, you're presumed innocent; at > > > least by those that respect the constitution. > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:139991 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54 From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:42:26 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:42:26 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:42:26 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx115.postini.com ([64.18.0.87] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedAQ-0000eL-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:42:26 -0800 Received: from source ([12.107.209.250]) by exprod5mx115.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:45:07 PST Received: (qmail 30067 invoked by alias); 15 Dec 2004 17:15:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-bugs/> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 13827 invoked by uid 48); 15 Dec 2004 17:00:02 -0000 Date: 15 Dec 2004 17:00:02 -0000 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Bug target/18170] [4.0 Regression] m32r-elf-as, m32r-linux-as debug relocation error for c++ X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 ------- Additional Comments From pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org 2004-12-15 16:59 ------- This is even more minor now since m32r was switched over to using dwarf2 debugging. -- What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Severity|normal |minor http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=18170 From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:44:11 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:44:11 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:44:11 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx121.postini.com ([64.18.0.35] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedC7-0000eb-00 for <archive@jab.org>; 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Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:45:24 +0100 Received: from [217.230.195.175] (helo=apache.org) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1CedDI-0002ZV-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:45:24 +0100 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:44:57 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?U3RlZmFuIEzDvHR6a2VuZG9yZg==?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Slide Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: WCK: session parameter References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de [EMAIL PROTECTED] auth:2d3c8fc8a9189fc7a3cf76b7342c5f6c X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.0750) GT3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 Some time ago I modified the WebdavUtils.getSlidetoken method related to this question. I added all session parameters as parameters to the slide token, this way a store implementation can access session parameters (but cant set new session parameters). May be this could help. But I assume that the slide token is hidden with in the wck. Stefan. Oliver Zeigermann wrote: > Not directly. Maybe using some ThreadLocal hack would do, but this > would require changes to Slide. > > Oliver > > > On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 01:16:06 -0800 (PST), EngR H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>I need to let the WebDAV servlet to save my CMS session in its request. and >>then pass it to my custom store. is that possible?? >> >> >>Oliver Zeigermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>What kind of request parameter? The session? What for`? >> >>Oliver >> >> >>On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 07:19:51 -0800 (PST), EngR H wrote: >> >>>Hello there! >>> >>>Am using WCK and need to send parameters through the request object of the >> >>WebDAVServlet to my custom store .. >> >>>is that possible ??if yes, is that through the parameters Hashtable sent >> >>to the begin() function?? if yes, where I can set a parameter there?? >> >>>Thanx alot! >>>Rony >>> >>> >>>--------------------------------- >>>Do you Yahoo!? >>>All your favorites on one personal page â€" Try My Yahoo! >>> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >>__________________________________________________ >>Do You Yahoo!? >>Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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From: "Ralph Goers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: DSL Extreme Webmail (www.dslextreme.com) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1 (http://amavis.org/) X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.0750) GT3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.7 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.64 Stefano Mazzocchi said: > I migrated an application that I wrote 18 months ago over to the latest > trunk and here are the incompatible things: > > 1) Rhino 1.6 is a lot more strict when you don't use "var" in front of > a variable declaration. The previous version of Rhino was more tolerant. > Not a problem but there is no back compatibility. > > 2) it used to be that in order to have global variable persist across > calls even without continuations, you called cocoon.createSession() and > the flow put those values in the session. Then it was removed and done > automatically. Now, I can't find a way to make it work. > > So, is anybody able to persist global flow variables across > non-continuated flow executions? I believe I saw this on the users list the other day and as I recall, the answer was that it happens automatically when you make it a class member variable. 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boundary="===============1650114866978407150==" Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:90.23890/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.5022 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=ham version=2.64 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1650114866978407150== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01C4E28C.6F5F1E60" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C4E28C.6F5F1E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > pri show span 1 > > > > pri show span 1 > > Primary D-channel: 24 > > Status: Provisioned, Down, Active > > The "Down" indicates the d-chan is down. Call Verizon and have them > activate it. (Its not uncommon for telco's to deactivate the d-chan > when a circuit hasn't been fully turned up. It reduces the number of > alarms they have to deal with.) Aha! That would make sense. We ordered the PRI a while back for a new office space, but construction was delayed, and it has been sitting idle = for more than a month. > > zapata.conf: > > switchtype =3D national > > context =3D incoming > > signalling =3D pri_cpe > > group =3D 1 > > channel =3D> 1-23 > > In the above for US-based PRI's, you'll want to add: > pridialplan=3Dunknown > echocancel=3Dyes > echotraining=3Dyes ; try =3D800 if there is still echo with =3Dyes > echocancelwhenbridged=3Dyes > > The pridialplan=3D statement essentially tells the Verizon switch > what type of dialplan you expect to use. 'unknown' allows you to > send 7 digits, 1+ 10 digits, etc. 'national' restricts international > long distance, while 'international' imposes other restrictions. > The added zapata.conf parameters are not the cause for your d-chan > being down, however after that issue is resolved you'll bump into > these parameters. > > After the above items are resolved and things are closer to working, > you'll need to know how many digits (if any) Verizon is going to be > sending to you for inbound calls. If you asked them to provide DID > numbers, then the number of digits received will become important > for you to define extensions.conf entries associated with your > context=3Dincoming statement above. If they send you 4 digits, then > use extension.conf test entries like: > [incoming] > include =3D> valid-did > include =3D> invalid-did > > [valid-did] > exten =3D> 1234,1,Goto(local-extns,1234,1) > exten =3D> 1235,1,Goto(local-extns,1235,1) > > [invalid-did] > exten =3D> _.,1,Answer > exten =3D> _.,2,Wait(1) > exten =3D> _.,3,Playback(the-number-u-dialed) > exten =3D> _.,4,Playback(not-yet-assigned) > exten =3D> _.,5,Wait(2) > exten =3D> _.,6,Hangup > > You will also want to talk to a Verizon switch tech about how to > handle outbound CallerID. E.g., do you want to send CallerIDNum to > Verizon matching each originating DID number, or, map all outbound > calls to a single CallerIDNum? They will also set a common > CallerIDName for all outbound calls, but probably won't allow you > to send the name to them. Wow, a wealth of information! Thanks, Rich, for all the dialplan and = echo cancel stuff. I certainly would not have thought to cover invalid = DID'd or outbound CallerID! This will save me a GREAT deal of time (which is suddenly a huge premium for me). Thanks, Noah ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C4E28C.6F5F1E60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2743.600" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" = size=3D3>> > >=20 pri show span 1<BR>> ><BR>> > pri show span 1<BR>> > = Primary=20 D-channel: 24<BR>> > Status: Provisioned, Down, = Active<BR>><BR>> The=20 "Down" indicates the d-chan is down. Call Verizon and have them<BR>> = activate=20 it. (Its not uncommon for telco's to deactivate the d-chan<BR>> when = a=20 circuit hasn't been fully turned up. It reduces the number of<BR>> = alarms=20 they have to deal with.)<BR><BR>Aha! That would make sense. = We=20 ordered the PRI a while back for a new<BR>office space, but construction = was=20 delayed, and it has been sitting idle for<BR>more than a = month.<BR><BR><BR>>=20 > zapata.conf:<BR>> > switchtype =3D national<BR>> > = context =3D=20 incoming<BR>> > signalling =3D pri_cpe<BR>> > group =3D = 1<BR>> >=20 channel =3D> 1-23<BR>><BR>> In the above for US-based PRI's, = you'll want=20 to add:<BR>> pridialplan=3Dunknown<BR>> echocancel=3Dyes<BR>>=20 echotraining=3Dyes ; try =3D800 if there is still echo with = =3Dyes<BR>>=20 echocancelwhenbridged=3Dyes<BR>><BR>> The pridialplan=3D statement = essentially=20 tells the Verizon switch<BR>> what type of dialplan you expect to = use.=20 'unknown' allows you to<BR>> send 7 digits, 1+ 10 digits, etc. = 'national'=20 restricts international<BR>> long distance, while 'international' = imposes=20 other restrictions.<BR>> The added zapata.conf parameters are not the = cause=20 for your d-chan<BR>> being down, however after that issue is resolved = you'll=20 bump into<BR>> these parameters.<BR>><BR>> After the above = items are=20 resolved and things are closer to working,<BR>> you'll need to know = how many=20 digits (if any) Verizon is going to be<BR>> sending to you for = inbound calls.=20 If you asked them to provide DID<BR>> numbers, then the number of = digits=20 received will become important<BR>> for you to define extensions.conf = entries=20 associated with your<BR>> context=3Dincoming statement above. If they = send you=20 4 digits, then<BR>> use extension.conf test entries like:<BR>>=20 [incoming]<BR>> include =3D> valid-did<BR>> include =3D>=20 invalid-did<BR>><BR>> [valid-did]<BR>> exten =3D>=20 1234,1,Goto(local-extns,1234,1)<BR>> exten =3D>=20 1235,1,Goto(local-extns,1235,1)<BR>><BR>> [invalid-did]<BR>> = exten=20 =3D> _.,1,Answer<BR>> exten =3D> _.,2,Wait(1)<BR>> exten = =3D>=20 _.,3,Playback(the-number-u-dialed)<BR>> exten =3D>=20 _.,4,Playback(not-yet-assigned)<BR>> exten =3D> = _.,5,Wait(2)<BR>> exten=20 =3D> _.,6,Hangup<BR>><BR>> You will also want to talk to a = Verizon switch=20 tech about how to<BR>> handle outbound CallerID. E.g., do you want to = send=20 CallerIDNum to<BR>> Verizon matching each originating DID number, or, = map all=20 outbound<BR>> calls to a single CallerIDNum? They will also set a=20 common<BR>> CallerIDName for all outbound calls, but probably won't = allow=20 you<BR>> to send the name to them.<BR><BR>Wow, a wealth of = information! =20 Thanks, Rich, for all the dialplan and echo<BR>cancel stuff. = I=20 certainly would not have thought to cover invalid DID'd or<BR>outbound=20 CallerID! This will save me a GREAT deal of time (which = is<BR>suddenly a=20 huge premium for=20 me).<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Noah</FONT><BR><BR><BR></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>= ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C4E28C.6F5F1E60-- --===============1650114866978407150== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users --===============1650114866978407150==-- From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:44:29 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:44:29 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@mail-archive.com Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:44:29 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx13.postini.com ([64.18.0.153] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedCP-0000fS-00 for <archive@mail-archive.com>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:44:29 -0800 Received: from source ([64.118.64.245]) by exprod5mx13.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:47:08 PST Received: from LOCALHOST by LOCALHOST with ESMTP id B143B1A8920E54489FCE289472A0377C Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:48:42 -0500 Subject: RE: If Limbaugh fans aren't ignorant... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Dinowitz) Content-Type: text/plain Precedence: bulk Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:56:34 -0500 References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.5022 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> forward (good recip) [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 That's what flame bait is for. Getting you warmed up on a cold day like today. :) (The thread subject was designed to start a flame war and such subjects/posts are referred to as flame bait.) > Oh, and I appreciate your attack on my intellect. > > Hatton > > > On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:28:46 -0600, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Jerry wrote: > > > Me too! > > > > > > > Ditto! > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:139992 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54 From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:44:40 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:44:40 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:44:40 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx121.postini.com ([64.18.0.35] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedCa-0000fm-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:44:40 -0800 Received: from source ([65.214.43.167]) by exprod5mx121.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:47:21 MST Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost4.lists.techtarget.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB5884BA; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:00:59 -0500 (EST) To: "Search390.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Search390.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: New White Paper: Enhancing Mainframe-to-Mainframe Enterprise Extender Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:01:41 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: TargetMail E-Mail By TechTarget.com X-content_id: 499670 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-pstn-levels: (S:33.88946/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.0616 M:83.7292 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1125) GT3 gt2 gt1 r p M c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.8 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,CLICK_BELOW, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.64 Dear Search390.com member, Download this free white paper to learn about the security and usability issues associated with implementing EE and evaluate possible solutions for a safer and easier deployment. 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The table is INNODB. > >So I'm thinking if the row is deleted then re-inserted, there is the >overhead of one finding the old row and marking it deleted, two >searching for the correct pos for the row in the table and in the key >structures, and three writing the row to disk. > >Vs, and UPDATE would have the overhead of one finding the old row, and >two writing the updates to disk. > >As such it seems like it actually be faster for me to attempt an UPDATE, >and if it fails, then do an INSERT, rather than using REPLACE? > This provides a window for errors. You can attempt the update, and before the insert, another process could insert the record. And insert followed by an update on failure closes this window. > >Is this correct? > > > > -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:45:23 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:45:23 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:45:23 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx85.postini.com ([64.18.0.73] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedDH-0000gL-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:45:23 -0800 Received: from source ([146.82.138.6]) by exprod5mx85.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:48:04 PST Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by murphy.debian.org (Postfix) with QMQP id 7A58B2EE96; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:47:30 -0600 (CST) Old-Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from Mail.Linux-Consulting.com (Mail.linux-consulting.com [157.22.35.6]) by murphy.debian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2084C2E756 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:47:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from Maggie.Linux-Consulting.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Mail.Linux-Consulting.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/check_local-5) with ESMTP id iBFHlSqM000439; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:47:28 -0800 Received: from localhost ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by Maggie.Linux-Consulting.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) with SMTP id iBFHlSRm000436; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:47:28 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: Maggie.Linux-Consulting.com: aoga owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:47:28 -0800 (PST) From: Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Christian Convey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: debian-user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Hardware hassles: Linux vs. Windows In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Rc-Virus: 2004-10-30_01 X-Rc-Spam: 2004-08-29_01 Resent-Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailing-List: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> archive/latest/372245 X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: <debian-user.lists.debian.org> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/> Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:47:30 -0600 (CST) X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.0150) gt3 GT2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] Resent-Bcc: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 hi ya christian On Wed, 15 Dec 2004, Christian Convey wrote: > I used Sarge's new installer, which I think most people reckon to be > pretty good. And yet I've still had these issues. i dont like sarge's (new) installer which is basically the same as the previous installers with a few (major) tweeks/fixes issues i had with the ones "new installer" when i playd with it .. - it doesn't like xfs, jfs, reiserfs, .. ( all of um boots as /boot and/or "/" ) - i didn't get to test sw-raid install, but presumably works from other peoples posts - i don't use lvm so its a non-issue for me - i want the installer to be a standalone/rescue disk so that i can twist and jump over hoops to allow me to manually make it do the other stuff it doesn't do correctly - anything that is inflexible that only allows you only the "OK" button vs other options is a bad thing - it should let you out of the install to fix things the right way before continuing - choose which loader: grub/lilo/silo/etc ... - choose which mta: exim/sendmail/postfix - choose which fs: ext3, reiser, xfs, jfs, .. - choose which lpd: cups, lpr, lprng, .. - choose which sound: alsa, oss, .. - which packages to install - partition mechanism was whacky from what i recall - choose .. blah .. - doing the choosing, the installer can and should pretest that the apps supports the hardware like it does with the X11 testing of the various resolutions vs installing the default that may or may not work > I'm not complaining - I get far more than what I paid for with Debian. yup.. c ya alvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". 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Download page: http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/transaction/downloads.html Project website: http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/transaction/ Release notes: http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/jakarta-commons/transaction/RELEASE-NOTES.txt?rev=1.3 Oliver (on behalf of the Commons Community) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:45:32 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:45:32 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:45:32 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx15.postini.com ([64.18.0.155] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedDQ-0000gv-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:45:32 -0800 Received: from source ([63.251.223.186]) by exprod5mx15.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:48:14 PST Received: (qmail 7880 invoked by uid 514); 15 Dec 2004 17:48:14 -0000 Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 7871 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2004 17:48:13 -0000 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Check-By: la.mx.develooper.com Received-SPF: neutral (x1.develooper.com: local policy) Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received-SPF: neutral (x1.develooper.com: local policy) Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Mime-version: 1.0 Subject: Smoke [5.9.2] 23652 PASS hp-ux 11.11/64 (PA-2.0/64/2 cpu) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:44 +0100 From: "H.Merijn Brand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Old-Spam-Check-By: la.mx.develooper.com X-Old-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=8.0 tests=BAYES_00,UPPERCASE_25_50 X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.64 Automated smoke report for 5.9.2 patch 23652 r3: PA8800 (PA-2.0/64/2 cpu) on hp-ux - 11.11/64 using gcc version 3.4.3 smoketime 10 hours 12 minutes (average 38 minutes 15 seconds) Summary: PASS O =3D OK F =3D Failure(s), extended report at the bottom X =3D Failure(s) under TEST but not under harness ? 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X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FlightGear developers discussions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: FlightGear developers discussions <flightgear-devel.flightgear.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://mail.flightgear.org/pipermail/flightgear-devel> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 * Martin Spott -- Wednesday 15 December 2004 18:09: > 1.) Do you have any plans if/when to deal with Michael's already > well-known ;-) 'crease' stuff - s/Michael/Mathias/ > 2.) It would be nice to have the airport description in the base > package updated to what the recent scenery was built from. I think > there are several new or moved airports that FlightGear currently > doesn't recognize. I'm missing KEDW now since a very long time. I wonder how such a huge, famous, and extraordinary airport could disappear. Is there still hope? m. _______________________________________________ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:45:34 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:45:34 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:45:34 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx120.postini.com ([64.18.0.34] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedDS-0000h4-00 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:45:34 -0800 Received: from source ([148.100.80.47]) by exprod5mx120.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:48:16 PST Received: from VM.MARIST.EDU (vm.marist.edu [148.100.80.40]) by mailer390.marist.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D30312CDF; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:48:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by VM.MARIST.EDU (IBM VM SMTP Level 430) via spool with SMTP id 9121 ; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:15:37 EST Received: from VM.MARIST.EDU (NJE origin [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by VM.MARIST.EDU (LMail V1.2b/1.8b) with BSMTP id 4171; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:15:37 -0500 Received: from VM.MARIST.EDU by VM.MARIST.EDU (LISTSERV release 1.8e) with NJE id 5536 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:15:36 -0500 Received: from MARIST (NJE origin [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by VM.MARIST.EDU (LMail V1.2b/1.8b) with BSMTP id 4167; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:15:36 -0500 Received: from e31.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.129] by VM.MARIST.EDU (IBM VM SMTP Level 430) via TCP with SMTP ; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:15:35 EST X-Comment: VM.MARIST.EDU: Mail was sent by e31.co.us.ibm.com Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e31.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBFHFdjd318188 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:15:39 -0500 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (d03av02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.168]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VER6.6) with ESMTP id iBFHFdY0450394 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:15:39 -0700 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iBFHFcAi016615 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:15:38 -0700 Received: from d03nm119.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm119.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.145]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iBFHFcOh016609 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:15:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF2 July 23, 2003 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM119/03/M/IBM(Release 6.51HF678 | November 11, 2004) at 12/15/2004 10:15:38, Serialize complete at 12/15/2004 10:15:38 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:15:37 -0700 Reply-To: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Andrew Raibeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Scheduler problem To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Precedence: list X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 Information that might shed some light: - dsmsched.log file from the affected client - dsmerror.log file from the affected client - complete "dsmc QUERY SCHEDULE" output from the affected client - complete "QUERY EVENT F=D" output for the MIDNIGHT schedule - complete "QUERY SCHEDULE F=D" output for the MIDNIGHT schedule Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence. "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 12/15/2004 05:43:42: > Hi Jozef, > > The time should have said > > 2/14/04 11:26:34 (dsmcad) Server Window Start: 00:00:01 on 12/15/04 > > Instead it said > > 2/14/04 11:26:34 (dsmcad) Server Window Start: 00:00:01 on 12/16/04 > > The two backup's that displayed this did not backup last night! (12/15) they > will probably backup tonight. > > They are both displaying > > 2/14/04 11:26:34 (dsmcad) Server Window Start: 00:00:01 on 12/16/04 > Which is the correct date now! > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > Jozef Zatko wrote: > > > Timoty, > > time specified in schedule, which is one second after midnight already was > > (I mean today 12/15). Next one second after midnight will be on 16th. > > Right? > > > > Regards > > > > Ing. Jozef Zatko > > Login a.s. > > Dlha 2, Stupava > > tel.: (421) (2) 60252618 > > > > Timothy Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > 12/14/2004 05:48 PM > > > > Please respond to > > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > cc > > > > Subject > > Scheduler problem > > > > Hello, > > > > I checked the DSMcad and it shows the next scheduled operation is for > > 12/16/04 it should say 12/15/04. > > > > I killed the DSMCAD and restarted it, But it shows the next backup > > schedule 12/16/04. These backups runs everynight. I need to get > > this backup ready for 12/15/04. > > > > Anyone every have this problem with the schedule showing > > the wrong date? This is happening on the two Backup sessions that > > I cancelled this morning. > > > > AIX client 5.1.5 > > TSM 5.2.3.5 > > > > Thanks for any help! > > > > $ tail dsmwebcl.log > > Executing scheduled command now. > > 12/14/04 11:26:34 (dsmcad) Next operation scheduled: > > 12/14/04 11:26:34 (dsmcad) > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > 12/14/04 11:26:34 (dsmcad) Schedule Name: MIDNIGHT > > 12/14/04 11:26:34 (dsmcad) Action: Incremental > > 12/14/04 11:26:34 (dsmcad) Objects: > > 12/14/04 11:26:34 (dsmcad) Options: > > 12/14/04 11:26:34 (dsmcad) Server Window Start: 00:00:01 on 12/16/04 > > > > 12/14/04 11:26:34 (dsmcad) > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > 12/14/04 11:26:34 (dsmcad) Waiting to be contacted by the server. > > ForwardSourceID:NT000549D6 From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:45:37 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:45:37 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:45:37 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx126.postini.com ([64.18.0.40] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedDV-0000hD-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:45:37 -0800 Received: from source ([195.78.50.6]) by exprod5mx126.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:48:18 CST Received: from ogoldberg.net by lists.exmachina.net with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:48:12 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (CyberMac) In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [CCMC] RE: CyberMac-Digest #3099 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Olivier Goldberg) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:48:12 +0100 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: MacSOUP/F-2.6.1 (Mac OS X version 10.3.6) Reply-To: "CyberMac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Precedence: List List-Software: LetterRip Pro 4.05b7 by LetterRip Software, LLC. List-Subscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Digest: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-LR-SENT-TO: archive@jab.org X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.2 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,SUBJ_HAS_UNIQ_ID autolearn=no version=2.64 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pour ceux qui veulent passer ... pffff! Moi, je veux bien, mais je bosse! Et puis, j'ai examen mercredi et jeundi prochain, alors :'( --=20 Olivier Goldberg, =E9tudiant, macaddict, plongeur CMAS *** Pour le courrier personnel, =E9crire =E0: olivier (arobase) ogoldberg (point) net AIM/iChat/Skype: Nept47 -- Cette liste vous est offerte par Emakina <http://www.emakina.com/> Emakina: technologie et creativite au service de vos projets Web. Desabonnement par email : <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:45:50 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:45:50 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:45:50 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx52.postini.com ([64.18.0.219] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedDi-0000hQ-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:45:50 -0800 Received: from source ([64.118.64.245]) by exprod5mx52.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:48:27 EST Received: from LOCALHOST by LOCALHOST with ESMTP id 0F387C913FB98846A8EC764ABFBE147F Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:49:44 -0500 Subject: Re: Existentialism (was Re: death for scott peterson) From: Jim Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain Precedence: bulk Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:47:10 -0600 References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.5022 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> forward (good recip) [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 I think you're right - I've heard "postmodernist" as well, but that just makes me think of building a Gehry-esque ladder to the lightbulb. - Jim Kevin Graeme wrote: >Yeah, I've generally heard them with "surrealist" instead of >"existentialist" which makes more sense to me. > >-Kevin > > >On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:25:24 -0600, Jim Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>BTW - those aren't my jokes - I don't remember where I first heard them, >>but they're a couple >>of my odd little favorites. >> >>- Jim >> >>Gruss Gott wrote: >> >> >> >>>ROTFL! >>> >>> >>>On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:58:34 -0600, Jim Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Speaking of existentialism, that went to the wrong recipient entirely! >>>> >>>>And: >>>> >>>>Q: How many existentialists does it take to change a lightbulb? >>>>A: Two. One to train the giraffe, and the other to fill the bathtub >>>>with brightly colored machine tools. >>>> >>>>Alternately: >>>> >>>>Q: How many existentialists does it take to change a lightbulb? >>>>A: The fish. >>>> >>>>- Jim >>>> >>>>Jim Campbell wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Probably spaces in the URL :) >>>>> >>>>>Here you go. >>>>> >>>>>- Jim >>>>> >>>>>Dana wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I read them all in French, either in France or for graduate work at >>>>>>American University. Ah except I might have had a look at Being and >>>>>>Nothingness in English around the time I encountered Kirkegaard. >>>>>> >>>>>>If you have a particular passage in mind I could probably find the >>>>>>French equivalent and tell you what I think. I'd welcome the practice, >>>>>>really, haven't given the language much of a workout in over ten >>>>>>years. >>>>>> >>>>>>Dana >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:01:03 -0600, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Dana, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>You've referenced the French titles a couple times. Have you read any >>>>>>>of the works in both French and then English? I've read some poorly >>>>>>>translated German work, but I was really impressed with the use of >>>>>>>English in some of the Camus translations I've read but I don't know >>>>>>>how they really compare to the original. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-Kevin >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 22:27:55 -0700, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>for anyone interested, here is a pretty literate discussion of Camus >>>>>>>>as seem by Sartre. Matter of fact, the whole site looks interesting. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>http://www.anotheramerica.org/new_page_6.htm >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Dana >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:139993 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54 From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:45:51 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:45:51 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@mail-archive.com Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:45:51 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx115.postini.com ([64.18.0.87] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedDj-0000hS-00 for <archive@mail-archive.com>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:45:51 -0800 Received: from source ([64.118.64.245]) by exprod5mx115.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:48:29 PST Received: from LOCALHOST by LOCALHOST with ESMTP id 0F387C913FB98846A8EC764ABFBE147F Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:49:44 -0500 Subject: Re: Existentialism (was Re: death for scott peterson) From: Jim Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain Precedence: bulk Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:47:10 -0600 References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.5022 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> forward (good recip) [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 I think you're right - I've heard "postmodernist" as well, but that just makes me think of building a Gehry-esque ladder to the lightbulb. - Jim Kevin Graeme wrote: >Yeah, I've generally heard them with "surrealist" instead of >"existentialist" which makes more sense to me. > >-Kevin > > >On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:25:24 -0600, Jim Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>BTW - those aren't my jokes - I don't remember where I first heard them, >>but they're a couple >>of my odd little favorites. >> >>- Jim >> >>Gruss Gott wrote: >> >> >> >>>ROTFL! >>> >>> >>>On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:58:34 -0600, Jim Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Speaking of existentialism, that went to the wrong recipient entirely! >>>> >>>>And: >>>> >>>>Q: How many existentialists does it take to change a lightbulb? >>>>A: Two. One to train the giraffe, and the other to fill the bathtub >>>>with brightly colored machine tools. >>>> >>>>Alternately: >>>> >>>>Q: How many existentialists does it take to change a lightbulb? >>>>A: The fish. >>>> >>>>- Jim >>>> >>>>Jim Campbell wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Probably spaces in the URL :) >>>>> >>>>>Here you go. >>>>> >>>>>- Jim >>>>> >>>>>Dana wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I read them all in French, either in France or for graduate work at >>>>>>American University. Ah except I might have had a look at Being and >>>>>>Nothingness in English around the time I encountered Kirkegaard. >>>>>> >>>>>>If you have a particular passage in mind I could probably find the >>>>>>French equivalent and tell you what I think. I'd welcome the practice, >>>>>>really, haven't given the language much of a workout in over ten >>>>>>years. >>>>>> >>>>>>Dana >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:01:03 -0600, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Dana, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>You've referenced the French titles a couple times. Have you read any >>>>>>>of the works in both French and then English? I've read some poorly >>>>>>>translated German work, but I was really impressed with the use of >>>>>>>English in some of the Camus translations I've read but I don't know >>>>>>>how they really compare to the original. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-Kevin >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 22:27:55 -0700, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>for anyone interested, here is a pretty literate discussion of Camus >>>>>>>>as seem by Sartre. Matter of fact, the whole site looks interesting. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>http://www.anotheramerica.org/new_page_6.htm >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Dana >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:139993 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54 From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:45:54 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:45:54 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@mail-archive.com Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:45:54 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx1.postini.com ([64.18.0.141] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedDm-0000hi-00 for <archive@mail-archive.com>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:45:54 -0800 Received: from source ([217.76.128.98]) by exprod5mx1.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:48:35 EST Received: from llla207-a.servidoresdns.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by llla207-a.servidoresdns.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29685AEB53; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:48:33 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from smtp-01.servidoresdns.net (llsa736-a01.servidoresdns.net [217.76.146.207]) by llla207-a.servidoresdns.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA2E4A889D for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:48:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.betybyte.com (unknown [80.65.8.4]) by smtp-01.servidoresdns.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8959B3D807D for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:44:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from mhiguera (adsl.betybyte.com [62.93.165.114]) by mail.betybyte.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D821385F for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:44:29 +0100 (CET) From: "Manuel de la Higuera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:44:29 +0100 Organization: BetyByte MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcTixVhqsLxpUORzRlaWyGB2XPCpUg== Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?=5BASNativos=5D_?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?C=F3mo_utilizar_el_patr=F3n_MVC_en_aplicaciones_reales=3F?= X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Lista dedicada a Actionscript <5dms.com.asnativos.5dms.com> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://list.5dms.com/mailman/listinfo/5dms.com.asnativos>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Unsubscribe: <http://list.5dms.com/mailman/listinfo/5dms.com.asnativos>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://list.5dms.com/mailman/private/5dms.com.asnativos> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 Hola Jorge: Si el modelo "necesita" inexorablemente saber el color de un MovieClip = para funcionar es porque el modelo requiere tambi=E9n disponer de esos datos. Lo com=FAn, una vez instanciados correctamente Modelo, Vista(s) y = Controlador, es que el modelo facilite un estado inicial a la vista (pueden ser = varias, pero se trataran normalmente como una vista =FAnica utilizando Functors --m=E9todos est=E1ticos que hacen de Fa=E7ade de la vista--). La actualizaci=F3n de la vista es responsabilidad del Modelo, de ah=ED = que se utilice un Fa=E7ade para distribuir los eventos pertinentes a las vistas secundarias, entendiendo la Vista como una composici=F3n de todas. En = efecto, el controlador se encarga de manipular el modelo a su antojo (que = notificar=E1 a la vista con los cambios) y la manipulaci=F3n del modelo est=E1 casi = siempre supeditada a la interfaz de usuario. El Modelo, igualmente, puede ser una composici=F3n de modelos y = tambi=E9n se utilizar=E1 normalmente un Fa=E7ade para esto (se le conoce como = "Application Model", al resto del modelo se le llama "Domain Model") de forma que = puedas utilizar datos as=EDncronos sin producir sesgos en la aplicaci=F3n, pues = es el Application Model el que se encarga de notificar los cambios a la Vista: Domain Model | | Application Model --actualiza---> Vista (Functor ---> Vistas \ / \ / manipula / relaci=F3n de colaboraci=F3n \ / \ / Controlador HTH, me he tomado una pinta al mediod=EDa y no estoy muy fino. M. PD.- Es la en=E9sima vez que env=EDo este mail porque no llega bien; = perdonad si llega duplicad=EDsimo. =20 >-----Mensaje original----- >De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Jorge Alarc=F3n = Enviado=20 >el: mi=E9rcoles, 15 de diciembre de 2004 12:07 >Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Asunto: [ASNativos] C=F3mo utilizar el patr=F3n MVC en aplicaciones = reales? > >Buenos d=EDas; > >Se ha hablado mucho en esta lista sobre las bondades de los patrones de = >dise=F1o a la hora de enfocar proyectos de cierta envergadura con=20 >actionscript 2. Me refiero en particular al MVC. > >Mi opini=F3n al respecto del MVC siempre fue que si no lo consideraba=20 >necesario era porque posiblemente no lo necesitase . Sin embargo ahora=20 >me he embarcado en un proyecto personal qu=E9 b=E1sicamente consiste en = un=20 >weblog que sustituya el aspecto de scroll textual por una met=E1fora=20 >gr=E1fica. El caso es que la complejidad me ha llevado a replantearme = mi=20 >postura y ya no estoy tan seguro de no necesitar un framework=20 >estrutucturado y "serio". > >Toda la informaci=F3n que circula por la red se basa en modelos = sencillos=20 >que suelen ser modificaciones del empleado por C. >Moock en su =FAltimo libro u otros ejemplos b=E1sicos. MIs dudas = surgen=20 >cuando intento pasar ese modelo de laboratorio al mundo real. > >Me encuentro a menudo con la necesidad por parte del Model de=20 >interrogar al View para obtener informaci=F3n, por ejemplo el color de = un=20 >MovieClip. >Como la View en la que el MovieClip est=E1 incluida no recibe input por = >el usuario, no lo recoge ning=FAn controller (salvo el >default) y no s=E9 c=F3mo interrogarlo. A menudo me crispa la necesidad = de=20 >no tener en el Model la instancia directa del mc en cuesti=F3n. Me veo = en=20 >la necesidad de encontrar una gu=EDa real, no te=F3rica, al MVC que me=20 >ayude a centrarme. > >Si alguno de vosotros pudiera darme alguna directriz concreta o sus=20 >impresiones despu=E9s de haber aplicado el MVC en proyectos complejos, = le=20 >estar=EDa muy agradecido. > >Siento abrir de nuevo el debate con el MVC, pero considero necesario=20 >establecer puentes concretos entre lo que es teor=EDa y su posterior=20 >aplicaci=F3n pr=E1ctica. > >Gracias por todo. > >Jorge Alarc=F3n. > > ---------------------------------- Lista ASNativos:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.5dms.com/listas ---------------------------------- From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:45:58 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:45:58 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:45:58 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx31.postini.com ([64.18.0.186] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedDq-0000hr-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:45:58 -0800 Received: from source ([146.82.138.6]) by exprod5mx31.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:48:39 CST Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by murphy.debian.org (Postfix) with QMQP id 1878E2EE8A; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:47:55 -0600 (CST) Old-Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from pop3.htb.at (secure.htb.at [195.69.104.11]) by murphy.debian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556532E61F for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:47:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from box.x.ray ([81.189.67.105]) by pop3.htb.at (Merak 7.6.0) with ASMTP id BJA74421 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:47:23 +0100 Received: from sin.x.ray ([192.168.1.20] ident=mail) by box.x.ray with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedFA-0003sl-00 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:47:20 +0100 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=sin.x.ray ident=ritch) by sin.x.ray with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedF8-0003nV-00 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:47:18 +0100 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:47:17 +0100 From: Richard Mittendorfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: deblistuser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [OT] Festplattentool Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.99-gtk2-20041024 (GTK+ 2.4.4; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Scanner: exiscan *1CedFA-0003sl-00*mPFw/e.TnZ2* X-Rc-Virus: 2004-10-30_01 X-Rc-Spam: 2004-08-29_01 Resent-Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailing-List: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> archive/latest/116287 X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: <debian-user-german.lists.debian.org> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/> Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:47:55 -0600 (CST) X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.0150) gt3 GT2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] Resent-Bcc: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.0 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.64 Am Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:32:35 +0100 sprach Christian Fr=F6se <[EMAIL PROTECTED] resden.de>: > Hi Alls, hi=20 > ich habe hier ein Problem: Ich habe eine Notebook-Festplatte von Toshiba. > Leider sind daruaf einige Sektoren defekt uind ich wollte sie=20 > Low-Leveln. 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From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:46:12 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:46:12 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@mail-archive.com Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:46:12 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx60.postini.com ([64.18.0.240] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedE4-0000i4-00 for <archive@mail-archive.com>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:46:12 -0800 Received: from source ([200.217.149.99]) by exprod5mx60.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:48:49 PST Received: (qmail 5905 invoked by uid 508); 15 Dec 2004 15:22:10 -0200 Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: no List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 5894 invoked by uid 511); 15 Dec 2004 15:22:09 -0200 From: "rubens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 14:48:15 -0300 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C7_01C4E2B5.21802260" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Subject: ENC: [cejug-discussao] java.lang.OutOfMemoryError X-pstn-levels: (S:42.49693/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.6 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.64 ------=_NextPart_000_00C7_01C4E2B5.21802260 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00C8_01C4E2B5.21802260" ------=_NextPart_001_00C8_01C4E2B5.21802260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Voc=EA pode acompanhar o consumo de mem=F3ria usando o JConsole, por exemplo. http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/J2SE/jconsole.html =20 =20 -----Mensagem original----- De: Francisco Jodevan Campelo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviada em: quarta-feira, 15 de dezembro de 2004 14:38 Para: Cejug Assunto: [cejug-discussao] java.lang.OutOfMemoryError =20 =20 Ol=E1, pessoal. =20 Estou com um grave problema com o Tomcat.=20 Um erro de java.lang.OutOfMemoryError est=E1 ocorrendo = intermitentemente. =C0s vezes este erro passa de v=E1rios dias sem ocorrer, como tamb=E9m = pode acontecer algumas vezes durante o dia. Sei que este problema pode estar sendo provocado por algum algoritmo ou coisa assim, mas de qualquer modo, estou achando muito estranho, j=E1 = que isso n=E3o costumava acontecer antes e tem piorado nos =FAltimos dias. = Al=E9m disso, acho at=E9 improv=E1vel ser consumida tanta mem=F3ria em t=E3o = pouco tempo, como acontece algumas vezes. Algu=E9m conhece algum programa (algum tipo de benchmark, quem sabe) que pudesse me dar algum tipo de informa=E7=E3o sobre a aloca=E7=E3o de = mem=F3ria (de repente o Tomcat pode at=E9 ter alguma coisa) e que, de prefer=EAncia, pudesse me informar o quanto estou gastando de mem=F3ria com os objetos que est=E3o alocados? Sei que posso at=E9 estar procurando por alguma coisa que nem sequer existe, mas de repente se algu=E9m tiver alguma dica tanto em = rela=E7=E3o ao programa quanto a algo que esteja causando tal problema, tudo ser=E1 bem vindo. 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Al=E9m disso, acho at=E9 = improv=E1vel ser consumida tanta mem=F3ria em t=E3o pouco tempo, como acontece algumas = vezes.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Algu=E9m conhece algum programa (algum tipo = de benchmark, quem sabe) que pudesse me dar algum tipo de informa=E7=E3o = sobre a aloca=E7=E3o de mem=F3ria (de repente o Tomcat pode at=E9 ter = alguma coisa) e que, de prefer=EAncia, pudesse me informar o quanto estou gastando de = mem=F3ria com os objetos que est=E3o alocados?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Sei que = posso at=E9 estar procurando por alguma coisa que nem sequer existe, mas de repente se = algu=E9m tiver alguma dica tanto em rela=E7=E3o ao programa quanto a algo que esteja = causando tal problema, tudo ser=E1 bem vindo.<br = 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-0400 (AST) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 13:48:23 -0400 (AST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Wayne Davison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Shum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: rsync seems to hang when --delete option is used. X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: rsync user list <rsync.lists.samba.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/rsync>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/rsync>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.5 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB autolearn=ham version=2.64 Actually, I get similar on our system(s) for very large directory structures ... I've changed my scripts so that it times out after 15 minutes and re-tries up to 5 times before considering it a failure, which appears to have 'gotten around' the problem ... When it hangs, i've tried setting truss -p again both the server side, and receiver, and nothing seems to be happening on the server, and periodic 'select()'s happen on the receiver ... On Wed, 15 Dec 2004, Wayne Davison wrote: > On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 04:02:05PM -0500, Tony Shum wrote: >> When I use --delete option, it seems to hang for over 8 hours on 4.5Gb >> of total data. > > The --delete option causes rsync to read the local hierarchy, and > construct a list of files to compare with the remote file list. If it > is hanging, I'd imagine that there is some kind of a read problem on the > local system -- perhaps an NFS mount is down or something. I can also > imagine that a recursive mount of a file system (e.g. a "bind" type of > mount) could cause rsync to loop back on itself creating the local file > list, but that would cause rsync to bloat until it ran out of memory. > > Some suggestions for you: attach to the hung rsync with a debugger and > see where it is hung -- you should be able to see what file/directory it > is working on reading, and that should help you to narrow down the > problem. Alternately, run run rsync using a system-call tracer to see > what it was doing prior to the hang (see the issues page on the rsync > web site for how to get a remote rsync to run under the strace/truss > program). > > ..wayne.. > -- > To unsubscribe or change options: > https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/rsync > Before posting, read: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 -- To unsubscribe or change options: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/rsync Before posting, read: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:46:18 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:46:18 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@mail-archive.com Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:46:18 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx31.postini.com ([64.18.0.186] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedEA-0000iO-00 for <archive@mail-archive.com>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:46:18 -0800 Received: from source ([217.160.218.167]) by exprod5mx31.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:48:59 PST Received: from weinplus.de (unknown [212.114.223.70]) by p15139095.pureserver.info (Postfix) with ESMTP id 037A620419A; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 19:02:00 +0100 (CET) X-ClientAddr: 212.1.41.126 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 16:19:40 +0100 From: Gerd Rindchen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Weinforum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-purgate-ID: expurgator14/1CebDD-0005ll-00 0:1 X-purgate-Ad: Categorized by eleven eXpurgate (R) http://www.eXpurgate.net X-purgate: This mail is considered clean (see http://www.eXpurgate.net/support/expurgate_headers for details) X-purgate: clean Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk X-Priority: 3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Subject: [weinforum] Re: Lesetipps Gourmet-Krimis X-pstn-levels: (S:52.85027/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.7 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.64 Am besten sind die vier Polt-Krimis aus dem österreichischen Weinviertel von Alfred Komarek melancholisch, tragigkomisch, atmosphärisch dicht, toll geschrieben und man hat immer den Geschmack von einem pfeffrigen Veltliner oder einem fruchtigen Zweigelt im Gaumen.... Beste Grüße Le boeuf > > Hallo Bernd, > recht hast Du, meines Erachtens. In Anbetracht des hohen > Weingenußniveaus im Forum, war ich überrascht, was für > Buchempfehlungen hier z.T. gemailt wurden. "Yquem" habe ich wegen des > Titels mal in die Hand genommen, quer reingelesen und sofort > vergessen. Schwulst, wie Du selbst sagtst. Nur weil Yquem draufsteht > ist ja noch nicht süß-komplexer Lesegenuß drin. > > Auch die Bücher von Henn oder Chaplets "Wasser zu Wein" drehen sich > zwar nett um Wein, aber literarisch sind sie einfach schlecht. Habe > auch miese Kritiken bei Krimisachverständigen gekriegt. > Holzschnittartige Charaktere, oberflächliche Ironie, albern > sprechende Namen, viele Klischees. > > Gut fand ich die Montalbans und habe sie alle gelesen. Von vorne bis > hinten. > Lu Wenfu wurde hier auch empfohlen und auch da kan ich mich nur > anschließen. Klasse! Danach hat man nur keinen Bock mehr, ins > China-Restaurant zu gehen, weil man weiß, was fehlt... > > Tschüß zusammen, T. Riedl > > >> Hallo Werner und Christin, >> >> tja, die Geschmäcker sind unterschiedlich. So >> wunderbar ich die Rieslaner von H.G.Schwarz finde, so >> ungenießbar kam mir der Yquem-Roman entgegen. Für mich >> ein typischer Fall von "Wulst", von gewollt und nicht >> gekonnt: >> >> "Ich alter Meister des ersten Hezklopfens. >> Ich alter Meister des großen Gefühls. >> Ich alter Meister der unerwarteten Sehnsucht >> Ich alter Meister des grenzenlosen Schwärmens" >> >> ....etc. usw. usf.... >> >> Das ist kein Rieslaner von Schwarz, sondern eine mit >> Süßreserve überfrachtete Klischee-Auslese von einem >> zehntklassigen Erzeuger. So einen sprachlichen Krampf >> würde ich als Lektor sofort in die Tonne kloppen. >> >> Beste Grüße >> >> Bernd >> >> --- Werner Elflein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: >>> Hallo Christin, >>> >>> nur "gut geschrieben"? ;-) Also, meiner Meinung nach >>> ist "Yquem" eines >>> der packendsten Bücher, die ich in den letzten >>> Jahren gelesen habe. >>> >>> Dieses Buch zu lesen ist in etwa so, wie eine >>> Rieslaner Beerenauslese >>> von H. G. Schwarz zu trinken. >>> >>> Viele Grüße >>> Werner >>> >>> Christin Jordan schrieb: >>>> kennst Du "Yquem" von Michael Amon? Gut >>> geschriebener Roman... >> >> >> ===== >> http://www.wein-plus.de/karte.html?rec=9673 >> >> -- >> > > Dieser Beitrag wurde mit dem webbasierten Zugang zum Forum erstellt: > http://www.wein-plus.de/forum/ > > -- ******************** N E U I M M A G A Z I N ********************* - Pégau-Vertikale in Graz - Kraft und Ausdauer - Aktuelle Verkostungen und Neuheiten im Sommer 2004 http://www.wein-plus.de/magazin ---- ****************** N E U I M W E I N B L I T Z ******************* - Bedenklicher Trend - Alkoholkonsum unter Jugendlichen ist deutlic... - Konsum - Champagner vor Absatzrekord http://www.wein-plus.de/magazin ---- ********************************************************************** Vom Weinforum abmelden ---> http://www.wein-plus.de/abmelden.htm ********************************************************************** From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:46:23 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:46:23 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:46:23 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx124.postini.com ([64.18.0.38] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedEF-0000iX-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:46:23 -0800 Received: from source ([209.237.227.199]) by exprod5mx124.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:49:05 CST Received: (qmail 56606 invoked by uid 500); 15 Dec 2004 17:48:36 -0000 Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: "Ant Users List" <user.ant.apache.org> Reply-To: "Ant Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 56581 invoked by uid 99); 15 Dec 2004 17:48:36 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=10.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: domain of [EMAIL PROTECTED] designates 193.109.238.66 as permitted sender) Received: from dnsinet.rzf-nrw.de (HELO dnsinet.rzf-nrw.de) (193.109.238.66) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:47:33 -0800 Received: from z011100.bk.fin.local (z011104.bk.fin.local [193.109.238.140]) by dnsinet.rzf-nrw.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBFH5i7j007151 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:05:44 +0100 Received: from z011104.bk.fin.local ([130.11.7.104]) by z011100.bk.fin.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:05:46 +0100 Received: by z011104.bk.fin.local with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id <YX475BRG>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:05:46 +0100 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AW: trying to post a message Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:05:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C4E2C8.51B66120" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Dec 2004 17:05:46.0842 (UTC) FILETIME=[51E38BA0:01C4E2C8] X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.0750) GT3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.7 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.64 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4E2C8.51B66120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable what do you have done with this? :) maybe you=B4ve tried to send not as simple text. 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Free email & more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:47:29 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:47:29 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@mail-archive.com Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:47:29 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx119.postini.com ([64.18.0.33] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedFJ-0000j6-00 for <archive@mail-archive.com>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:47:29 -0800 Received: from source ([217.160.218.167]) by exprod5mx119.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:50:10 CST Received: from weinplus.de (unknown [212.114.223.70]) by p15139095.pureserver.info (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E002041A9; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 19:03:11 +0100 (CET) X-ClientAddr: 212.227.126.185 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:34:43 +0100 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Authentication-Warning: s15105793.rootmaster.info: apache set sender to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Klemens Maier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Provags-Forward: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -> [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by apris.de id iBFGoAi21325 X-purgate-ID: expurgator15/1CecLr-0001LM-00 0 X-purgate-Ad: Categorized by eleven eXpurgate (R) http://www.eXpurgate.net X-purgate: This mail is considered clean (see http://www.eXpurgate.net/support/expurgate_headers for details) X-purgate: clean X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by apris.de id iBFGoCW21458 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk X-Priority: 3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [weinforum] (Alle) Sauvignon Blanc Infos (fuer Facharbeit) gesucht! X-pstn-levels: (S:15.13846/99.84998 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.7 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.64 Hallo, ich mache meine Abschlußarbeit über das Thema Sauvignon Blanc! Bin schon eifrig am Materialsammeln! Sollte jemand von euch einige Daten (event. auch Bilder) für mich haben, wäre ich sehr froh!! Danke im voraus, grüße Thomas Dieser Beitrag wurde mit dem webbasierten Zugang zum Forum erstellt: http://www.wein-plus.de/forum/ -- ******************** N E U I M M A G A Z I N ********************* - Pégau-Vertikale in Graz - Kraft und Ausdauer - Aktuelle Verkostungen und Neuheiten im Sommer 2004 http://www.wein-plus.de/magazin ---- ****************** N E U I M W E I N B L I T Z ******************* - Bedenklicher Trend - Alkoholkonsum unter Jugendlichen ist deutlic... - Konsum - Champagner vor Absatzrekord http://www.wein-plus.de/magazin ---- ********************************************************************** Vom Weinforum abmelden ---> http://www.wein-plus.de/abmelden.htm ********************************************************************** From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:47:43 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:47:43 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:47:43 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx30.postini.com ([64.18.0.185] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedFX-0000jP-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:47:43 -0800 Received: from source ([207.173.200.128]) (using TLSv1) by exprod5mx30.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:50:23 EST Received: from postgresql.org (svr1.postgresql.org [200.46.204.71]) by hosting.commandprompt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iBFHoK3i027468 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:50:23 -0800 X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F913B47C8 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:44:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 36635-07 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:44:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from davinci.ethosmedia.com (server226.ethosmedia.com [209.128.84.226]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30BC63B4BD9 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:44:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [63.195.55.98] (account [EMAIL PROTECTED] HELO spooky) by davinci.ethosmedia.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 6790078; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:46:11 -0800 From: Josh Berkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: Aglio Database Solutions To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [HACKERS] [Testperf-general] BufferSync and bgwriter Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:43:53 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 Cc: Jan Wieck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Mailing-List: pgsql-hackers Precedence: bulk Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 Folks, > To allow DBT2 to be used for real bgwriter benchmarking, Mark would need to > change the following: > > 1) Randomize the timing of the commits, so that sometimes there is only 30 > writes/minute, and other times there is 300. A timing pattern that would > produce a "sine wave" with occasional random spikes would be best; in my > experience, OLTP applications tend to have wave-like spikes and lulls. > > 2) Include a sprinkling of random or regular "large writes" which affect > several tables and 1000's of rows. For example, once per hour, change > 10,000 pending orders to "shipped", and archive 10,000 "old orders" to an > archive table. Oh, also we need to: 3) Run the test for 3+ hours after scaling up, and turn on autovacuum. -- Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED] From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:47:44 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:47:44 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:47:44 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx121.postini.com ([64.18.0.35] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedFY-0000jY-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:47:44 -0800 Received: from source ([66.33.206.23]) by exprod5mx121.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:50:26 CST Received: from che.dreamhost.com (che.dreamhost.com [66.33.216.23]) by frida.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95C9316D2C1; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:50:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from che.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by che.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8533498898; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:50:12 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from spoon.dreamhost.com (spoon.dreamhost.com [66.33.219.19]) by che.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E845498898 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:29:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from smo.com.br (gama.smo.com.br [200.215.63.5]) by spoon.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 92C1713E15B for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:29:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 83425 invoked by uid 0); 15 Dec 2004 15:30:04 -0300 Received: from [EMAIL PROTECTED] by gama.smo.com.br by uid 1002 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (f-prot: 4.4.2/3.14.11. 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Processed in 0.111101 secs); 15 Dec 2004 15:30:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smo.com.br) (127.0.0.1) by smo.com.br with SMTP; 15 Dec 2004 15:30:04 -0300 Received: from 200.215.63.12 (SquirrelMail authenticated user magrini); by smo.com.br with HTTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 15:30:04 -0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 15:30:04 -0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [FUGSPBR] e-mail pro terra From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:50:09 -0800 Cc: X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: "Lista de discuss& atilde; o do Grupo de usu& aacute; rios FreeBSD do Brasil sobre assuntos t& eacute; cnicos - Moderada" <fugspbr-fugspbr.org.fugspbr.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.fugspbr.org/listinfo.cgi/fugspbr-fugspbr.org>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.fugspbr.org/listinfo.cgi/fugspbr-fugspbr.org>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.7 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.64 Olá, Srs, cada dia vale mais aquela frase: "Tem coisas que só a BrT faz por você." Isso só pode ser problema no reverso deles, querem a prova : O problema na auroraalimentos.com.br: <<< --- Vcs estão certos ->>>>> bsdbrasil.com.br# nslookup -type=ptr 200.193.54.10 200.193.54.10 Server: 200.193.54.10 Address: 200.193.54.10#53 10.54.193.200.in-addr.arpa name = web.auroraalimentos.com.br. 10.54.193.200.in-addr.arpa name = auroraalimentos.com.br. 10.54.193.200.in-addr.arpa name = frigorifico-aurora.com.br. 10.54.193.200.in-addr.arpa name = mx.auroraalimentos.com.br. <<< --- Já a BrT --- >>>> bsdbrasil.com.br# nslookup -type=ptr 200.193.54.10 200.215.1.35 Server: 200.215.1.35 Address: 200.215.1.35#53 ** server can't find 10.54.193.200.in-addr.arpa: SERVFAIL bsdbrasil.com.br# Valeu moçada boa sorte com os home... []´s Paulo Magrini > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Marcio Jota Coelho wrote: > | Pessoal.. > | Alguem esta com o mesmo problema que eu para enviar email pro terra? > | > | (Deferred: Connection reset by mx.terra.com.br.) > | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > | t+ > | > | > | Marcio Jota Coelho > | Analista de sistemas > Também estou com esse problema alias já estou há dois dias com isso. > Isso até já virou uma thread na lista do GTER, mas tem muita gente que > tem o mesmo problema > > []'s > __ > Márcio Luciano Donada > mdonada at auroraalimentos dot com dot br > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFBwGKfyJq2hZEymxcRAjHXAKC+D5sUDGCpd5Fq6SJTUpYd3YZf3ACeOOF9 > WZh103OnQUEfR81pX+RF+ws= > =I6dO > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________________________ > Para enviar um novo email para a lista: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sair da Lista: http://lists.fugspbr.org/listinfo.cgi > Historico: http://www4.fugspbr.org/lista/html/FUG-BR/ > _______________________________________________________________ Para enviar um novo email para a lista: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sair da Lista: http://lists.fugspbr.org/listinfo.cgi Historico: http://www4.fugspbr.org/lista/html/FUG-BR/ From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:47:45 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:47:45 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:47:45 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx120.postini.com ([64.18.0.34] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedFZ-0000jN-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:47:45 -0800 Received: from source ([12.107.209.248]) by exprod5mx120.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:50:23 EST Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8487E3B0841; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:30:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([12.107.209.248]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32563-03; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:30:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A9BB3B1341; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:30:30 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9191A3B132A for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:30:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([12.107.209.248]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32563-01 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:30:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (bay15-f40.bay15.hotmail.com [65.54.185.40]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337003B0841 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:30:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:30:02 -0800 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from 84.226.39.254 by by15fd.bay15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:29:20 GMT X-Originating-IP: [84.226.39.254] X-Originating-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Sam B" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:29:20 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Dec 2004 17:30:02.0389 (UTC) FILETIME=[B5766450:01C4E2CB] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Subject: Beginner questions ... X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of GTK+ <gtk-list.gnome.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: </archives> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.0750) GT3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.2 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.64 Hello and thank you for reading my post ! I have a few questions about gtk+, sorry, I am a beginner : 1) I use the widget to get a filename with a menu (I don't remember its name). I connected the "Cancel" button signal to "widget_destroy" and this is OK. But I would like the app to do a few functions and then close the widget used to choose the filename. How could I close a widget from a function called by this widget ? Now, when I click OK, the widget asking me to choose a file is still open and sould be closed ! 2) I vould like to make a Notebook with a variable number of tabs, depending on the user's actions. Which function does this ? Thanks in advance ! Sam _________________________________________________________________ Plus de clause d'expiration! Ouvrez dès maintenant un compte Hotmail pour la vie http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=fr-ch&DI=1057&XAPID=1581 _______________________________________________ gtk-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:47:49 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:47:49 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:47:49 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx118.postini.com ([64.18.0.32] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedFd-0000ju-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:47:49 -0800 Received: from source ([64.118.64.245]) by exprod5mx118.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:50:27 PST Received: from LOCALHOST by LOCALHOST with ESMTP id 16FA72D905CC4442B88A6F8F9AB47046 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:51:46 -0500 Subject: Re: Mail Server Software From: Matt Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain Precedence: bulk Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:49:39 -0800 References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.5022 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> forward (good recip) [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 >what was the cause of this mass exodus from iMail to SmarterMail? Imail was killed by Ipswitch as a product, suddenly and without warning. Its dead and gone. (although after a user revolt they said on the Imail forum that availability "might be offered on an individual basis" with pricing to be determined.) You can have Imail as part of Ipswitch's ICS bundle, which is a mere US$9995 for unlimited seats, with a similarly hefty annual service contract that is *in addition* to the price. Don't get me started on ICS, which is just three unintegrated products bundled, rebranded... and repriced. > SmarterMail sounds like a fairly immature product > and I would think there are more attractive servers available for large > installations. You would think that but a very large body of former Imail users who tested the bejesus out of it and any other mail server we could get our hands on would largely disagree. Once Imail died much of their very active list went into test-everyone mode. To Ipswitch's credit they let the traffic through. Smartermail seemed to be the number one choice. Merak was second and a few rebels went to Postfix and swore off Windows. SM is a new product and it indeed is missing some features that an enterprise would want. ODBC integration of the user database comes to mind immediately. I would consider that fatal for a large enterprise, although SM's xml config files are easy to work with directly, and you can use web services to build on whatever you please For the ISP market its really quite a nice fit. The comments about it beating IMail for stability when stressed I've heard before and can anecdotally echo. Its lack of viable spam and a/v support is nothing to me as I use a gateway in front of the mail server anyway. But for everyone else both Declude and MXGaurd are being developed for it right now, with release fairly imminent, and SpamAssassin, ASSP, ClamAV and TrendMicro work with it immediately. If I were doing single, large enterprise work I would use Merak. I had a client that I was recommending it to. They needed SOX compliance, but SM can do the SOX-mail-copy thing very easily so for ... what was it... $99? we took a chance on it to see what happened. The client figured what the heck. They're still happy. -- --Matt Robertson-- President, Janitor MSB Designs, Inc. mysecretbase.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - RUWebby http://www.ruwebby.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187778 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54 From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:48:58 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:48:58 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@mail-archive.com Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:48:58 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx27.postini.com ([64.18.0.182] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedGk-0000m2-00 for <archive@mail-archive.com>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:48:58 -0800 Received: from source ([64.118.64.245]) by exprod5mx27.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:51:37 MST Received: from LOCALHOST by LOCALHOST with ESMTP id 01677336EFE91848B78AC74FA96A8E31 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:51:50 -0500 Subject: Re: Existentialism (was Re: death for scott peterson) From: Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain Precedence: bulk Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:49:24 -0700 References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.5022 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> forward (good recip) [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 I read them all in French, either in France or for graduate work at American University. Ah except I might have had a look at Being and Nothingness in English around the time I encountered Kirkegaard. If you have a particular passage in mind I could probably find the French equivalent and tell you what I think. I'd welcome the practice, really, haven't given the language much of a workout in over ten years. Dana On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:01:03 -0600, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dana, > > You've referenced the French titles a couple times. Have you read any > of the works in both French and then English? I've read some poorly > translated German work, but I was really impressed with the use of > English in some of the Camus translations I've read but I don't know > how they really compare to the original. > > -Kevin > > > On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 22:27:55 -0700, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > for anyone interested, here is a pretty literate discussion of Camus > > as seem by Sartre. Matter of fact, the whole site looks interesting. > > > > http://www.anotheramerica.org/new_page_6.htm > > > > Dana > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:139967 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54 From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:51:10 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:51:10 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:51:10 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx119.postini.com ([64.18.0.33] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedIs-0000mL-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:51:10 -0800 Received: from source ([66.98.251.159]) by exprod5mx119.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:53:51 PST Received: from postgresql.org (svr1.postgresql.org [200.46.204.71]) by svr4.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA5B5AF08B; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:53:50 +0000 (GMT) X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D109C3B33CE for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:47:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 38230-04 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:47:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web50009.mail.yahoo.com (web50009.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.24]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7356B3B4BDD for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:47:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail 85185 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Dec 2004 17:47:05 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? 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Visítanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:51:18 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:51:18 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@mail-archive.com Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:51:18 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx125.postini.com ([64.18.0.39] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedJ0-0000mU-00 for <archive@mail-archive.com>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:51:18 -0800 Received: from source ([69.16.138.164]) by exprod5mx125.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:53:59 CST Received: from [69.16.138.164] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.digium.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB1D12FE912; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:49:12 -0600 (CST) X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from psmtp.com (exprod5mx62.postini.com [64.18.0.175]) by lists.digium.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 43F0B2FE7E7 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:49:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from source ([195.54.71.251]) by exprod5mx62.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:49:13 PST Received: from dksrvex.net4all.com ([10.192.0.11]) by exgw.dangaard.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:49:12 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:49:12 +0100 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: SNOM 190 Call Completion Thread-Index: AcTizmLKIC/tKWLSQ/aKeqSB4ohYsQ== From: "Thorben G. Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Dec 2004 17:49:12.0351 (UTC) FILETIME=[62E4AAF0:01C4E2CE] X-pstn-levels: (S:70.28225/99.90000 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [65/3] Subject: [Asterisk-Users] SNOM 190 Call Completion X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion <asterisk-users.lists.digium.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1444100300838991303==" Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.5022 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.7 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.64 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1444100300838991303== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C4E2CE.62C9FE1A" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4E2CE.62C9FE1A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I cannot get Call Completion to work on Snom 190, does anybody have it working? =20 I have set CC=3Dyes, and when I call another phone the phone display CC = at the softkey, when I press it I get the options OK/Cancel. I press OK and then the display shows CC. =20 This will not change until I call the phone I have on CC, then it disappears - what am I missing? =20 Thank you Thorben =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4E2CE.62C9FE1A Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40";> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-compose; font-family:Arial; color:windowtext;} @page Section1 {size:595.3pt 841.9pt; margin:3.0cm 2.0cm 3.0cm 2.0cm;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> </head> <body lang=3DDA link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I cannot get Call Completion to work on Snom = 190, does anybody have it working?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I have set CC=3Dyes, and when I call another = phone the phone display CC at the softkey, when I press it I get the options = OK/Cancel. I press OK and then the display shows CC.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>This will not change until I call the phone I = have on CC, then it disappears – what am I = missing?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thank you<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thorben<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> </div> </body> </html> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4E2CE.62C9FE1A-- --===============1444100300838991303== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users --===============1444100300838991303==-- From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:51:27 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:51:27 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:51:27 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx116.postini.com ([64.18.0.88] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedJ8-0000me-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:51:26 -0800 Received: from source ([216.125.202.199]) by exprod5mx116.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:54:08 PST Received: (qmail 19969 invoked by uid 80); 15 Dec 2004 17:27:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 19961 invoked by alias); 15 Dec 2004 17:27:27 -0000 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavis-ng-0.1.6.4-03dc on tech-geeks.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:27:45 -0600 From: Douglas Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0RC1 (X11/20041201) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080601000901070205030802" Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Tech Tools? X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 --------------080601000901070205030802 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Clamav for windows or Avast Home.. Anti-Virus? Mike Oliveri wrote: >I would add to that: > >RockXP - http://www.snapfiles.com/get/rockxp.html >Belarc Advisor >Ethereal and WinPCap >NmapWin (or other Windows portscanner) >NetStumbler (for wireless) >FileZilla (GUI FTP) >WinZip or similar archive freeware (7Zip, etc.) - mostly for older machines >without built-in compression like XP has >Maybe a demo version of Nero or other burner software >A couple virus fixers, like FixBlast >And you may not have room after all is said and done, but XP SP2 isn't a bad >thing to have. Or the full download of IE6. > >Some of it's handy troublehsooting, some of it's just to save downloading time >if I'm helping someone who has a slow Internet connection. > >Take care, >Mike > > >On Wednesday 15 December 2004 10:27, Tom Czachor wrote: > > >>A full CD, must be loaded. >> >>My must haves are >>Adaware >>Spybot >>AVG >>HijackThis >>Putty >>WinSCP >>StartupCPL >>WinsockXPFix >>AIDA >>RegSeeker >>nLite >>The utils from various HD MFG to diagnose their drives. >> >> >>All I can think of at the top of my head. >> >>Tom Czachor >>Instructor - Computer Maintenance Technology >>Career Technology Center of Lackawanna County >>Scranton, PA 18508 >>http://cmt.ctc.tec.pa.us >>CompTIA A+, i-Net+ Certified >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: William M. Bell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 11:07 AM >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: [tech-geeks] Tech Tools? >> >>For the past month, I've been trying to compile a disc of useful, yet >>inexpensive, tech tools that I consider a necessity for any tech to have. >>I've almost maxed out a full CD, but I still have some room for a few >>suggestions. Any recommendations?? >> >> >> >> >> >>Bill Bell >> >>Asst. Technology Director >> >>Monticello CUSD #25 >> >>Monticello, IL 61856 >> >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --------------080601000901070205030802-- From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:51:27 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:51:27 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@mail-archive.com Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:51:27 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx128.postini.com ([64.18.0.42] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedJ9-0000mn-00 for <archive@mail-archive.com>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:51:27 -0800 Received: from source ([204.155.158.23]) by exprod5mx128.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:54:09 PST Received: from furry.uanywhere.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by furry.uanywhere.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A17D3EAB9; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:28:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from ns.oxfordmusic.net (ns.oxfordmusic.net [212.67.208.77]) by furry.uanywhere.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 394D43EA43 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:28:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from Andy (oxfordmusicnet-2.dsl.easynet.co.uk [217.204.209.98]) by ns.oxfordmusic.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id iBFGUQO11581 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 16:30:26 GMT Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "oxfordmusic.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Cobalt Users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] More email woes Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 16:32:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cobalt Users <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Cobalt Users <cobalt-users.lists.qbalt.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.qbalt.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cobalt-users>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://lists.qbalt.com/pipermail/cobalt-users> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.qbalt.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cobalt-users>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:42.76200/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 > > Is there any reason for the web server to accept connections on port 25 if > it doesn't handle mail? That might be too drastic though. could do that i guess. >Hmmm, would > enabling DNS on the web server and setting an MX record for all the > domains > to the other server's mail.example.com do the trick? Once in a while a > server will try my A record for a domain that has mail handled on another > server and it gets relayed to the proper server. > -- i have DNS running on both servers and they both report the correct MX DNS: [root /root]# host -t any mail.pandemedia.biz 212.67.203.87 Using domain server 212.67.203.87: mail.pandemedia.biz has address 212.67.203.88 [root /root]# host -t any mail.pandemedia.biz 212.67.203.88 Using domain server 212.67.203.88: mail.pandemedia.biz has address 212.67.203.88 i tried these queries with the NS given by Tony in his email but got no results!? andy _______________________________________________ cobalt-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.qbalt.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cobalt-users From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:51:31 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:51:31 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:51:31 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx115.postini.com ([64.18.0.87] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedJD-0000my-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:51:31 -0800 Received: from source ([150.203.224.11]) by exprod5mx115.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:54:12 PST Received: from cairo.anu.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cairo.anu.edu.au (8.12.9/8.12.0) with ESMTP id iBFHrZWn026923; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 04:53:35 +1100 (EST) Received: from localhost ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by cairo.anu.edu.au (8.12.9/8.12.0.Beta16) with SMTP id iBFHrYgI026922; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 04:53:34 +1100 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: cairo.anu.edu.au: majordomo owned process doing -bs Received: by cairo.anu.edu.au (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 16 Dec 2004 04:52:00 +1100 Received: from cairo.anu.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cairo.anu.edu.au (8.12.9/8.12.0) with ESMTP id iBFHpxWn026343; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 04:52:00 +1100 (EST) Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by cairo.anu.edu.au (8.12.9/8.12.0.Beta16) id iBFHpx6I026342; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 04:51:59 +1100 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: cairo.anu.edu.au: majordomo set sender to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f Received: from SHIRO.oicinc.com (rrcs-66-91-143-98.west.biz.rr.com [66.91.143.98]) by cairo.anu.edu.au (8.12.9/8.12.0) with ESMTP id iBFHpsWn026330 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 04:51:55 +1100 (EST) Received: by shiro.oicinc.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id <YD5WD19T>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:51:50 -1000 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: FTP Client support with default block all Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:51:42 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:91.0781 M:94.1034 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.7 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.64 You only allow active transfers, then. Or else you have to put the ftp server outside the main firewall, with it's own firewall configured to allow passive transfers. Brent -----Original Message----- On Dec 15, 2004, at 10:00 AM, Amadeus Stevenson wrote: > I am using a "block all" firewall which then selectively allows > certain connections out and back in from a natted lan (ie. http, smtp > etc.). > > The problem arises with FTP. > > I read up on Active and Passive transfers from: > http://slacksite.com/other/ftp.html > > I had to block ports > 1024 because of various file sharing programs > which would use whatever ports they could to share files and suck up > the bandwidth of the internet connection. > > This also blocked FTP working properly. From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:51:41 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:51:41 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:51:41 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx16.postini.com ([64.18.0.156] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedJM-0000nc-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:51:40 -0800 Received: from source ([12.107.209.250]) by exprod5mx16.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:54:22 PST Received: (qmail 20852 invoked by alias); 15 Dec 2004 17:38:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-bugs/> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 16551 invoked by uid 48); 15 Dec 2004 17:35:26 -0000 Date: 15 Dec 2004 17:35:26 -0000 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "rth at gcc dot gnu dot org" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Bug target/19010] sse and mmx parameter passing broken X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 ------- Additional Comments From rth at gcc dot gnu dot org 2004-12-15 17:35 ------- Oops, I attached the wrong version of the test case. Remove the TImode bit. Also, "-msse" fails with 3.4 branch, though other combinations pass. -- What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|UNCONFIRMED |ASSIGNED Ever Confirmed| |1 Known to fail| |4.0.0 3.4.4 Last reconfirmed|0000-00-00 00:00:00 |2004-12-15 17:35:25 date| | Version|4.0.0 |3.4.4 http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=19010 From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:51:31 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:51:31 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@mail-archive.com Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:51:31 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx122.postini.com ([64.18.0.36] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedJD-0000n0-00 for <archive@mail-archive.com>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:51:31 -0800 Received: from source ([194.109.24.32]) by exprod5mx122.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:54:12 CST Received: from bag.python.org (bag.python.org [194.109.207.14]) by smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iBFGnDGJ010183 for <archive@mail-archive.com>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:49:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Received: from bag.python.org (bag [127.0.0.1]) by bag.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46AC51E400E for <archive@mail-archive.com>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:49:13 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from bag.python.org (bag [127.0.0.1]) by bag.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 951471E4002 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:49:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from bag (HELO bag.python.org) (127.0.0.1) by bag.python.org with SMTP; 15 Dec 2004 17:49:10 +0100 Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by bag.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTP for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:49:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CecKs-0005Wr-00 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:49:10 +0100 Received: from c83-250-11-62.bredband.comhem.se ([83.250.11.62]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:49:10 +0100 Received: from fredrik by c83-250-11-62.bredband.comhem.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:49:10 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Fredrik Lundh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:48:59 +0100 Lines: 31 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Complaints-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c83-250-11-62.bredband.comhem.se X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original Subject: Re: Efficient grep using Python? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language <python-list.python.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.7 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.64 Tim Peters wrote: >> bdict = dict.fromkeys(open(bfile).readlines()) >> >> for line in open(afile): >> if line not in bdict: >> print line, >> >> </F> > > Note that an open file is an iterable object, yielding the lines in > the file. The "for" loop exploited that above, but fromkeys() can > also exploit it. That is, > > bdict = dict.fromkeys(open(bfile)) > > is good enough (there's no need for the .readlines()). (sigh. my brain knows that, but my fingers keep forgetting) and yes, for this purpose, "dict.fromkeys" can be replaced with "set". bdict = set(open(bfile)) (and then you can save a few more bytes by renaming the variable...) </F> -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:51:36 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:51:36 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:51:36 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx2.postini.com ([64.18.0.142] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedJI-0000nG-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:51:36 -0800 Received: from source ([209.237.227.199]) by exprod5mx2.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:54:17 PST Received: (qmail 78042 invoked by uid 500); 15 Dec 2004 17:54:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> list-post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 78024 invoked by uid 99); 15 Dec 2004 17:54:08 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:52:41 -0500 From: Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: Hope, Humanized User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040913 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, he, ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sdfgsd sergserg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Philippe M. Chiasson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: make test fails under Tru64 Unix 5.1b References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.0750) GT3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 sdfgsd sergserg wrote: > Ooops, I've missed this one: > > Writing Makefile for ModPerl::XS > Writing Makefile for mod_perl > [warning] mod_perl static library will be built as mod_perl.a > [ error] oh nuts, server dumped core > > > > ldd /house/doink123/httpd-2.0.52/.libs/lt-httpd > 443239:/house/doink123/httpd-2.0.52/.libs/lt-httpd: ldd: Fatal Error: Cannot > generate dynamic dependencies for library libperl.so gozer? any ideas? -- __________________________________________________________________ Stas Bekman JAm_pH ------> Just Another mod_perl Hacker http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide ---> http://perl.apache.org mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://use.perl.org http://apacheweek.com http://modperlbook.org http://apache.org http://ticketmaster.com -- Report problems: http://perl.apache.org/bugs/ Mail list info: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/modperl.html List etiquette: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/email-etiquette.html From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:51:42 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:51:42 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:51:42 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx122.postini.com ([64.18.0.36] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedJN-0000nn-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:51:41 -0800 Received: from source ([209.237.227.199]) by exprod5mx122.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:54:23 EST Received: (qmail 41415 invoked by uid 500); 15 Dec 2004 16:27:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> list-post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 13707 invoked by uid 99); 15 Dec 2004 16:19:43 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: domain of [EMAIL PROTECTED] designates 208.145.81.85 as permitted sender) Received: from mail.jaars.org (HELO mail.link77.net) (208.145.81.85) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 08:19:39 -0800 X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/ClamAV http://raeinternet.com/mpp Received: from [172.20.6.68] (account [EMAIL PROTECTED] [172.20.6.68] verified) by mail.link77.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP-TLS id 56235885 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:04:05 -0500 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:04:02 -0600 From: Lars Huttar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: SIL User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: error building Cocoon 2.1.6 on Suse Linux References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.0750) GT3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 Antonio Gallardo wrote: >Hi: > >If the solution (workaround) was sucessfull to you, please wikify it, :-D > >here is the page: > >http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/Installing > > OK, done. Lars --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:51:39 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:51:39 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:51:39 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx31.postini.com ([64.18.0.186] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedJL-0000nT-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:51:39 -0800 Received: from source ([209.237.227.199]) by exprod5mx31.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:54:21 CST Received: (qmail 51849 invoked by uid 500); 15 Dec 2004 17:47:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: "Gump code and data" <general.gump.apache.org> Reply-To: "Gump code and data" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 51834 invoked by uid 99); 15 Dec 2004 17:47:32 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=10.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from dnsinet.rzf-nrw.de (HELO dnsinet.rzf-nrw.de) (193.109.238.66) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:46:24 -0800 Received: from z011100.bk.fin.local (z011104.bk.fin.local [193.109.238.140]) by dnsinet.rzf-nrw.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBFGkt7j003620 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:46:55 +0100 Received: from z011104.bk.fin.local ([130.11.7.104]) by z011100.bk.fin.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:46:57 +0100 Received: by z011104.bk.fin.local with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id <YX475BLD>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:46:57 +0100 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AW: cvs commit: gump/project muse.xml Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:46:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C4E2C5.B0DE7460" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Dec 2004 16:46:57.0804 (UTC) FILETIME=[B0EE04C0:01C4E2C5] X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-pstn-levels: (S:93.18163/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.0750) GT3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.7 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.64 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4E2C5.B0DE7460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >> removed xerces and xalan deps, since JDK 1.4 comes w/ Crimson and Xalan > > > >Yes, but JDK 1.5 doesn't (no Xalan-J 2.x but XSLTC) and Kaffe > >certainly doesn't. > > > > > You're right, it looks like JDK 1.5 includes a bastardized version of > Xalan with the package name changed from org.apache.xalan to > com.sun.org.apache.xalan. Yep, I read that Sun has included that under com.sun.oata*, so that you can have the original version (oata) in your classpath, too. Jan ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4E2C5.B0DE7460-- From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:51:42 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:51:42 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:51:42 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx83.postini.com ([64.18.0.71] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedJO-0000nl-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:51:42 -0800 Received: from source ([209.237.227.199]) by exprod5mx83.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:54:23 PST Received: (qmail 52236 invoked by uid 500); 15 Dec 2004 17:47:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" <commons-dev.jakarta.apache.org> Reply-To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 52223 invoked by uid 99); 15 Dec 2004 17:47:39 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_BY_IP,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: domain of [EMAIL PROTECTED] designates 64.233.184.199 as permitted sender) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (HELO wproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.184.199) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:46:33 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 37so1935151wra for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:45:58 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nlZ81OUm4EgUYsT5eIKRGyOZI3KcaU1aRSSOsvB4tMmtofwDWice2zYQOvtGHswnXR4fK64Ni+RIFmEcR2o5azwNg9fGnnxVS3UaxtXnu41At1QCw3Xh2zKSYkrA+A+qMDUEB/RqEJ2jvNRGn3jdPiY2OdeDphTXad5Ml95HBwE= Received: by 10.54.4.40 with SMTP id 40mr2154340wrd; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:45:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.53 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:45:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:45:58 +0100 From: Oliver Zeigermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jakarta Commons Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jakarta Commons Users List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Slide Developers Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Commons Transaction 1.0 final released Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.0750) GT3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 The Commons Community is proud to announce the the final release of Commons Transaction 1.0. 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From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:52:06 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:52:06 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:52:06 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx127.postini.com ([64.18.0.41] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedJm-0000od-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:52:06 -0800 Received: from source ([146.82.138.6]) by exprod5mx127.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:54:48 PST Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by murphy.debian.org (Postfix) with QMQP id 4E4DF2EEAA; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:54:40 -0600 (CST) Old-Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by murphy.debian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD0D2EE90 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:54:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedMC-0001Jv-00 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:54:36 +0100 Received: from toronto-hse-ppp3959204.sympatico.ca ([69.157.187.199]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:54:36 +0100 Received: from greatexcalibur by toronto-hse-ppp3959204.sympatico.ca with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:54:36 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "H. S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: udev and gnome-volume-manager not working in Sarge Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:53:58 -0500 Lines: 37 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: toronto-hse-ppp3959204.sympatico.ca User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041007 Debian/1.7.3-5 X-Accept-Language: en-ca In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: news <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Rc-Virus: 2004-10-30_01 X-Rc-Spam: 2004-08-29_01 Resent-Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailing-List: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> archive/latest/372247 X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: <debian-user.lists.debian.org> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/> Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:54:40 -0600 (CST) X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.0150) gt3 GT2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] Resent-Bcc: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.0 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.64 Apparently, _Alex Malinovich_, on 15/12/04 12:12,typed: > On Wed, 2004-12-15 at 11:32 -0500, H. S. wrote: > --snip-- > >>BTW, since the upgrade I mentioned earlier, I am not getting the icons >>for 3 icons I was getting earlier for 3 of my parititions: 2 windows >>(dosd and dosc) and on other paritition that I use for video data. It is >>as if either gvm is not doing anything or as if gvm is not getting to >>know about these partitions or the plugging of the USB stick. > > > Have you checked to make sure that hald is running? On my system hald > seems to randomly stop working requiring a manual restart. As soon as I > restart it things usually work just fine. > Yes, I have experienced that too: restarting sometimes makes everything work okay but most of the times, it doesn't. I am just not able to get the problem at the throat :) hald is running: #> ps uax | grep hald hal 3643 0.0 1.3 9556 3564 ? Ss 11:26 0:00 /usr/sbin/hald --drop-privileges I also read the /usr/share/doc/gnome-volume-manager/README.Debian and added myself to plugdev group, reloggedin and noticed it made no difference. BTW, what libs do I need installed for all these things to work properly and also are there any kernel options I must have enabled? I am trying to think about all possibilities that come to my mind. thanks for your help, I really appreciate it, ->HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:52:10 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:52:10 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:52:10 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx125.postini.com ([64.18.0.39] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedJq-0000om-00 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:52:10 -0800 Received: from source ([140.98.193.23]) (using TLSv1) by exprod5mx125.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:54:51 CST Received: from engine (engine [140.98.193.23]) by engine.ieee.org (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.2) with ESMTP id iBFHs3gf013641; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:54:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG by LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8e) with spool id 16771 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:54:19 -0500 Received: from ruebert.ieee.org (ruebert [140.98.193.10]) by engine.ieee.org (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.2) with ESMTP id iBFHiAgb002047 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:44:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from hormel4.ieee.org (gemini4.ieee.org [140.98.193.189]) by ruebert.ieee.org (Switch-3.1.0/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id iBFHi992027103 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:44:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from irulan.endorphin.org (use.the.admin.shell.to.set.your.reverse.dns.for.this.ip [80.68.90.107] (may be forged)) by hormel4.ieee.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iBFHi2dn022786 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:44:02 -0500 Received: from ghanima.endorphin.org (chello080108077214.34.11.tuwien.teleweb.at [80.108.77.214]) by irulan.endorphin.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE15D3CB5F; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:15:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: (nullmailer pid 14804 invoked by uid 1000); Tue, 14 Dec 2004 09:45:42 -0000 Subject: Re: LRW patch From: Fruhwirth Clemens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: James Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "David S. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, SISWG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-IJpHO7UvB0jmAlAdxo6x" Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:45:41 +0100 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 X-UCE-Filter-Settings: 21_LO_BLOCK X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: IEEE UCE Filtering Service (uce . ieee . org) Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 --=-IJpHO7UvB0jmAlAdxo6x Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm cc-ing this to the SISWG mailing list, in case someone wants to add something to my pro-LRW argumentation. James Morris is also the Linux CryptoAPI maintainer. On Tue, 2004-12-14 at 02:46 -0500, James Morris wrote: > > At the moment I'm currently extending tcrypt.c to accommodate LRW test > > vectors, so my LRW patch isn't ready yet, but I would like to ask you t= o > > merge it's precursors, so I don't have to maintain the whole splitted > > patch set. >=20 > I'd rather not put code in upstream unless it is needed. > Also, I'm not sure what LRW is really about and what it really gives us > over well established modes like CBC. =20 In a nutshell, CBC sucks: http://clemens.endorphin.org/LinuxHDEncSettings This page is entirely devoted to the (in)security of CBC. Beside a presentation of the attack arsenal against CBC, this page gives a short introduction to LRW too. Further, a whole IEEE working group was founded to work on a secure CBC replacement. This should put some weight on that topic. > It's new (still not standardized?) and relatively untested,=20 > so that itself is a concern. =20 Good question. Let me point you to the answer the LRW designer, Clemens Kent, gave me: http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/1619/email/msg00226.html > Can you shed some > light on what LRW gives us and why we need to care about it? :-) Well, CBC has many problems when used as hard disk cipher mode. My "full disclosure" document lists four attacks which can be mounted against any cipher when operating in CBC mode. "Content leaks, malleable, movable..". Admitted, these attacks are mostly theoretical, but why should we be satisfied with that, when there is a better alternative? My LRW implementation is faster than CBC according to my benchmarks (marginally however), and is likely to be secure against the 3 of 4 CBC attacks. What more do you want? Faster, more secure, nicely encapsulated in 2 files. And GPL ;) --=20 Fruhwirth Clemens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://clemens.endorphin.org --=-IJpHO7UvB0jmAlAdxo6x Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBBvrZEW7sr9DEJLk4RAgtzAJ4ra3eFsvE4OIGa68ApV8D+1W+nWACfb58A ruldcoZh7UJP597XfWWeg4I= =fHPx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-IJpHO7UvB0jmAlAdxo6x-- From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:52:45 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:52:45 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:52:45 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx31.postini.com ([64.18.0.186] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedKP-0000pI-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:52:45 -0800 Received: from source ([157.238.133.142]) by exprod5mx31.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:55:26 EST X-SpamCatcher-Score: 0 [] X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.1.8 List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-ID: <lem-swap.mail.maclaunch.com> List-Archive: <http://mail.maclaunch.com:8100/Lists/lem-swap/List.html> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: "LEM Swap List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "LEM Swap List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Precedence: list From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Original-Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:34:53 EST Subject: [swap] 10 JAZ & 18 ZIP DRIVES MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-pstn-levels: (S:59.15550/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.5022 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.7 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.64 LEM-Swap is for buying & selling Mac stuff. 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Thanks for the comments. - HoundDawg _______________________________________________ hlds_apps mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_apps From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:52:52 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:52:52 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@mail-archive.com Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:52:52 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx126.postini.com ([64.18.0.40] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedKW-0000pe-00 for <archive@mail-archive.com>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:52:52 -0800 Received: from source ([128.121.220.147]) (using TLSv1) by exprod5mx126.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:55:33 MST Received: from localhost ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by imagicomm.com (8.12.11/8.11.2) with SMTP id iBFHWgc6049148; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:32:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by imagicomm.com (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:32:41 -0800 Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by imagicomm.com (8.12.11/8.11.2) id iBFHWdkI049125 for shelby-dodge-t0cHvARz9bGvY; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:32:39 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: imagicomm.com: imagicom set sender to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f Received: from web11507.mail.yahoo.com (web11507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.39]) by imagicomm.com (8.12.11/8.11.2) with SMTP id iBFHWbmA049117 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:32:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 82295 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Dec 2004 17:32:36 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=ctDlX8M/S7uyWuafn/cQej725uOCz2UK0QoYtQKZKCJ8X7bsrXdgI8buRSSSIxP9NrynTanIMYjnoL1vfPBmprTy9fnoge1Rij/cz+8nPmuVwcmudMmBK/r+2Huyr5ke+UjNAtzO2XA80YnMCp4n031zA8pq5BVZdpfac98YAjc= ; Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from [130.13.144.202] by web11507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:32:36 PST Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:32:36 -0800 (PST) From: Al Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: SD> Turbo Caravan 2.5 Balance Shaft To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] x-mailing-list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.5390 M:94.5022 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 What practical advantage on a street only car is there to removing the 2.5 balance shafts? Al in Phoenix Brian Schulteis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In my car, I simply cut the chain and left the balance shafts in the pan. No worries about plugging the oil feed hole. :) On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 08:26:06 -0500, Ed Nickl wrote: > That has to be the simplest method I've seen. How tight is the bolt shaft? > And what is the threaded hole for that you put the 'retainer' bolt and > washer in? Does the pan clear it well? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: ; > Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 7:03 AM > Subject: Re: SD> Turbo Caravan 2.5 Balance Shaft > > > Chris, > > OK, here you go. Removing them is just as easy as pulling the oil pan then > > just cut the old chain from the balance shaft assembly and follow these > > directions for plugging the oil feed hole > > http://www.hometown.aol.com/mopartek/balanceplug.html > > > > Cliff Ramsdell > > VP New England SDAC www.sdacne.com > > '91 Spirit R/T 2.2 TIII, 568. SOLD > > '86 GLHS 065 Going back to stock "appearing" > > '86 K-Car Wagon 2.5 TIII, 568.SOLD > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.members.aol.com/mopartek/home.html > > > > In a message dated 12/15/2004 1:45:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > >> i tried searching through the archives but the search function is down, > >> so > >> i'm sorry if this topic has been covered. i have an 89 turbo dodge > >> caravan > >> and would like to remove the balance shaft. i have searched on the > >> internet > >> for any info but not much is available. my haynes guide says it will be > >> an > >> in-depth task but im not sure. i want to know if any of you have removed > >> the shaft without removing the engine. i think i can get it out with just > >> removing the oilpan but wanted some other input. any help will be greatly > >> appreciated. > >> > >> thanks again, > >> chris > > > > -----------------------REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING---------------------------- > > Questions? 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Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:52:46 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:52:46 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:52:46 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx16.postini.com ([64.18.0.156] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedKQ-0000pR-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:52:46 -0800 Received: from source ([128.101.142.119]) by exprod5mx16.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:55:27 PST Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=baron.me.umn.edu) by baron.me.umn.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Ced7v-0005PX-00; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:39:51 -0600 Received: from mail.hal-pc.org ([206.180.145.139]) by baron.me.umn.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Ced29-0005IU-00 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:33:53 -0600 Received: from [192.31.106.35] (account [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by mail.hal-pc.org (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.2.1) with HTTP id 145119055 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:33:47 -0600 From: "Jon S Berndt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] control surface normalization To: FlightGear developers discussions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser Interface v.4.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:33:47 -0600 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanner: exiscan *1Ced29-0005IU-00*87ZOGo0v1Yk* X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FlightGear developers discussions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: FlightGear developers discussions <flightgear-devel.flightgear.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://mail.flightgear.org/pipermail/flightgear-devel> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:90.92465/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:21:13 -0000 "Vivian Meazza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A quick search revealed that most, if not all, the 3d models in the > current inventory use normalized values for animating the control > surfaces. See, this further raises a red flag for me. How does the 3D model know how far to move the aerosurface? What does the "normalized value" represent? This requires (like the VRP) more communication between the flight modeler and the 3D modeler. Are they both using the same values for the maximum angular range for an aerosruface - that is, the value that "1" represents? There are software limits. There are hardware limits. Which one is being used by the 3D modeler? It seems to me that the sensible thing to do is to simply use the angular value provided by the FDM - the one that is being used to determine the forces and moments. To do otherwise invites errors and confusion, IMHO. 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Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ _______________________________________________ JBoss-Development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:52:55 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:52:55 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:52:55 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx127.postini.com ([64.18.0.41] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedKY-0000q9-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:52:54 -0800 Received: from source ([66.35.250.220]) (using TLSv1) by exprod5mx127.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:55:17 MST Received: from sc8-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.7] helo=projects.sourceforge.net) by sc8-sf-spam2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CedMj-0006wY-Ry; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:55:09 -0800 Received: from sc8-sf-mx1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.11] helo=sc8-sf-mx1.sourceforge.net) by sc8-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CedM1-0003Ta-5v for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:54:25 -0800 Received: from colo-br-02.atl.jboss.com ([216.24.169.35]) by sc8-sf-mx1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.41) id 1CedM0-0000QE-5i for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:54:24 -0800 Received: from colo-br-02.atl.jboss.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by colo-br-02.atl.jboss.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iBFHsNvN017249 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:54:23 -0500 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) Subject: [JBoss-dev] [JTA on JBoss] - Re: TransactionManager.setTransactionTimeOut does not work Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: JBoss.org development list <jboss-development.lists.sourceforge.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum=jboss-development> X-Original-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:54:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:54:23 -0500 (EST) X-pstn-levels: (S:61.76353/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.0000) gt3 gt2 GT1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 This is not a user forum! 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Clear:RC:1(155.239.184.187):. Processed in 0.045714 secs); 15 Dec 2004 17:38:02 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] via ophelia.telkomsa.net X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.24 (Clear:RC:1(155.239.184.187):. Processed in 0.045714 secs) Received: from unknown (HELO [10.0.0.79]) ([155.239.184.187]) (envelope-sender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) by O (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 15 Dec 2004 17:38:02 -0000 From: Paul Surgeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: FlightGear developers discussions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release planning ... Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 19:37:36 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Scanner: exiscan *1Ced6H-0005NG-00*uLLFpygUC/w* X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FlightGear developers discussions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: FlightGear developers discussions <flightgear-devel.flightgear.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://mail.flightgear.org/pipermail/flightgear-devel> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 On Wednesday, 15 December 2004 18:18, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > Are there any major outstanding bugs or issues we need to resolve before > the next release? The select airport option in FG does not work in my CVS build on Saturday. In fact I've never seen it work. I'm not sure how hard it would be to fix it but it's broken so I think we should either temporarily disable/remove the menu entry or fix the problem for the next build. We can always leave it broken in CVS until it gets fixed but it's pointless having it in a release if it doesn't work. Paul _______________________________________________ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:52:54 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:52:54 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:52:54 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx116.postini.com ([64.18.0.88] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedKY-0000py-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:52:54 -0800 Received: from source ([12.107.209.250]) by exprod5mx116.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:55:35 EST Received: (qmail 25186 invoked by alias); 15 Dec 2004 17:41:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-bugs/> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 24867 invoked by alias); 15 Dec 2004 17:41:36 -0000 Date: 15 Dec 2004 17:41:36 -0000 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "joseph at codesourcery dot com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Bug c/18963] [4.0 Regression] static and nested declarations cause an ice X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 ------- Additional Comments From joseph at codesourcery dot com 2004-12-15 17:41 ------- Subject: Re: New: static and nested declarations cause an ice On Mon, 13 Dec 2004, phython at gcc dot gnu dot org wrote: > The following testcase ices with mainline. > static int barf (); > > int foo () { > int j = 4; > auto int barf (); > > int barf () { > return j; > } > > return barf (); > } > > static int barf () { > return 3; > } > > What should the result be anyway? 4 (within the scope where the nested function is declared, it should shadow the static function). -- http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=18963 From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:53:06 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:53:06 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:53:06 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx3.postini.com ([64.18.0.143] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedKj-0000tB-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:53:05 -0800 Received: from source ([209.237.227.199]) by exprod5mx3.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:55:47 PST Received: (qmail 52516 invoked by uid 500); 15 Dec 2004 17:47:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: "Jakarta Commons Users List" <commons-user.jakarta.apache.org> Reply-To: "Jakarta Commons Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 52337 invoked by uid 99); 15 Dec 2004 17:47:40 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_BY_IP,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: domain of [EMAIL PROTECTED] designates 64.233.184.200 as permitted sender) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (HELO wproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.184.200) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:46:34 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 37so1935152wra for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:45:58 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nlZ81OUm4EgUYsT5eIKRGyOZI3KcaU1aRSSOsvB4tMmtofwDWice2zYQOvtGHswnXR4fK64Ni+RIFmEcR2o5azwNg9fGnnxVS3UaxtXnu41At1QCw3Xh2zKSYkrA+A+qMDUEB/RqEJ2jvNRGn3jdPiY2OdeDphTXad5Ml95HBwE= Received: by 10.54.4.40 with SMTP id 40mr2154340wrd; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:45:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.53 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:45:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:45:58 +0100 From: Oliver Zeigermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jakarta Commons Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jakarta Commons Users List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Slide Developers Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Commons Transaction 1.0 final released Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.0750) GT3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 The Commons Community is proud to announce the the final release of Commons Transaction 1.0. 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Download page: http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/transaction/downloads.html Project website: http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/transaction/ Release notes: http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/jakarta-commons/transaction/RELEASE-NOTES.txt?rev=1.3 Oliver (on behalf of the Commons Community) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:52:59 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:52:59 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:52:59 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx10.postini.com ([64.18.0.150] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedKd-0000qT-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:52:59 -0800 Received: from source ([194.109.24.35]) by exprod5mx10.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:55:39 CST Received: from bag.python.org (bag.python.org [194.109.207.14]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iBFHGAs7062925 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:16:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Received: from bag.python.org (bag [127.0.0.1]) by bag.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 894B51E400D for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:16:10 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from bag.python.org (bag [127.0.0.1]) by bag.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C53F31E4002 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:15:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from bag (HELO bag.python.org) (127.0.0.1) by bag.python.org with SMTP; 15 Dec 2004 18:15:40 +0100 Received: from terror.vuw.ac.nz (terror.vuw.ac.nz [130.195.86.21]) by bag.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTP for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:15:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from [130.195.85.188] (HELO coso.staff.vuw.ac.nz) by terror.vuw.ac.nz (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with ESMTP id 11444 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 06:17:11 +1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Mailman-Users] How to 'import' Communigate lists to mailman subscriber lists Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 06:15:37 +1300 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Mailman-Users] How to 'export' mailman subscriber list Thread-Index: AcTixHkvlp69MQNfT4CyyH95e8F0nAABP6uQ From: "Steven Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailman mailing list management users <mailman-users.python.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-pstn-levels: (S:97.65923/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 Has anyone done this? If so how was it done? and did you have any issues? regards Steven ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:52:59 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:52:59 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@mail-archive.com Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:52:59 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx122.postini.com ([64.18.0.36] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedKd-0000qV-00 for <archive@mail-archive.com>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:52:59 -0800 Received: from source ([64.118.64.245]) by exprod5mx122.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:55:39 PST Received: from LOCALHOST by LOCALHOST with ESMTP id 74887F987BD9164381C283893A9D2B93 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:56:39 -0500 Subject: Re: EarthSea? From: Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain Precedence: bulk Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:54:09 -0500 References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-pstn-levels: (S:94.85116/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.5022 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> forward (good recip) [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 watch through the 1/2 way point in the 2nd episode. never read the books, but am a bit disapointed with there shows of magic. seems a little to glitery/glam then real... but its better then watching another episode of trading spaces... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - RUWebby http://www.ruwebby.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:139995 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54 From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:53:00 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:53:00 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:53:00 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx119.postini.com ([64.18.0.33] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedKd-0000qX-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:52:59 -0800 Received: from source ([64.118.64.245]) by exprod5mx119.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:55:40 PST Received: from LOCALHOST by LOCALHOST with ESMTP id 74887F987BD9164381C283893A9D2B93 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:56:39 -0500 Subject: Re: EarthSea? From: Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain Precedence: bulk Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:54:09 -0500 References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-pstn-levels: (S:94.85116/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.5022 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> forward (good recip) [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 watch through the 1/2 way point in the 2nd episode. never read the books, but am a bit disapointed with there shows of magic. seems a little to glitery/glam then real... but its better then watching another episode of trading spaces... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - RUWebby http://www.ruwebby.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:139995 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54 From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:53:03 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:53:03 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:53:03 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx30.postini.com ([64.18.0.185] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedKh-0000t0-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:53:03 -0800 Received: from source ([64.125.133.206]) by exprod5mx30.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:55:44 PST Received: (qmail 26767 invoked by uid 5302); 15 Dec 2004 17:53:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> list-post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: moderator for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 27181 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2004 16:24:29 -0000 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Pedro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 14:24:17 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Authenticated-By: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Picturemail: Y Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_=5Bjava-list=5D_Fun=E7=E3o_similar_a_split_do_JavaScri?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?pt?= X-pstn-levels: (S:74.68496/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 E o split mesmo, segue abaixo um codigo de exemplo. String Var1 = "java,e,o,futoro"; String[] Var2 = Var1.split(","); Att. Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jefferson Prestes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 5:51 PM Subject: [java-list] Função similar a split do JavaScript > Olá Pessoal, > > sei que isto já deve ter sido postada na lista mas não consegui encontrar > nos arquivos. > > Alguém se lembra de um método para fazer o mesmo que a função Split do > Javascript? Ou alguém tem uma classe "open-source" que pode compartilhar > comigo ;-). Ah! Irei usar num aplicativo para MIDP 1.0 (J2ME). > > Abraços e bons códigos, > > J e f f > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:53:07 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:53:07 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:53:07 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx31.postini.com ([64.18.0.186] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedKl-0000tK-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:53:07 -0800 Received: from source ([12.107.209.250]) by exprod5mx31.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:55:49 CST Received: (qmail 26068 invoked by alias); 15 Dec 2004 17:42:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-bugs/> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 25820 invoked by alias); 15 Dec 2004 17:42:13 -0000 Date: 15 Dec 2004 17:42:13 -0000 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "cvs-commit at gcc dot gnu dot org" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Bug target/19010] sse and mmx parameter passing broken X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 ------- Additional Comments From cvs-commit at gcc dot gnu dot org 2004-12-15 17:42 ------- Subject: Bug 19010 CVSROOT: /cvs/gcc Module name: gcc Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2004-12-15 17:41:58 Modified files: gcc : ChangeLog gcc/config/i386: i386.c i386.h gcc/testsuite : ChangeLog Added files: gcc/testsuite/gcc.target/i386: i386.exp vect-args.c Log message: PR target/19010 * config/i386/i386.c (ix86_must_pass_in_stack): Don't return true for TImode vectors. (gen_reg_or_parallel): New. (function_arg): Use it. (ix86_hard_regno_mode_ok): Test SSE1 and SSE2 separately, MMX and 3DNOW separately. (ix86_rtx_costs): Simplify FLOAT_EXTEND case. (ix86_vector_mode_supported_p): Test SSE1 and SSE2 separately. * config/i386/i386.h (VALID_SSE2_REG_MODE): Move SSE2 cases from ... (VALID_SSE_REG_MODE): ... here. * gcc.target/i386/i386.exp: New harness. * gcc.target/i386/vect-args.c: New. Patches: http://gcc.gnu.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gcc/gcc/ChangeLog.diff?cvsroot=gcc&r1=2.6842&r2=2.6843 http://gcc.gnu.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gcc/gcc/config/i386/i386.c.diff?cvsroot=gcc&r1=1.753&r2=1.754 http://gcc.gnu.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gcc/gcc/config/i386/i386.h.diff?cvsroot=gcc&r1=1.407&r2=1.408 http://gcc.gnu.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gcc/gcc/testsuite/ChangeLog.diff?cvsroot=gcc&r1=1.4764&r2=1.4765 http://gcc.gnu.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gcc/gcc/testsuite/gcc.target/i386/i386.exp.diff?cvsroot=gcc&r1=NONE&r2=1.1 http://gcc.gnu.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gcc/gcc/testsuite/gcc.target/i386/vect-args.c.diff?cvsroot=gcc&r1=NONE&r2=1.1 -- http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=19010 From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:54:12 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:54:12 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:54:12 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx121.postini.com ([64.18.0.35] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedLo-0000tg-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:54:12 -0800 Received: from source ([83.217.71.14]) (using TLSv1) by exprod5mx121.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:56:52 PST Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by backbone.jwn.be (8.11.6/8.11.6) id iBFHsRu12300; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:54:27 +0100 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:54:27 +0100 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: archive@jab.org Subject: Jeugdwerknet Nieuwsbrief nr. 177 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_20bb7fa5ed2fb3486cec25d429cc4b83" X-pstn-levels: (S:11.40544/99.80294 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.5 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_FONTCOLOR_RED,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_FONT_INVISIBLE,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_A,LINK_TO_NO_SCHEME,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.64 --=_20bb7fa5ed2fb3486cec25d429cc4b83 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeugdwerknet Nieuwsbrief nr. 177 InhoudJeugdwerknet nieuwsNieuws van buitenafActueel op het jeugdwerk forumNieuwe organisaties op JeugdwerknetJobs in JeugdwerklandJeugdwerknet nieuwsHet nieuwe vormingsaanbod voor het voorjaar is er!Jeugdwerknet geeft een aantal vormingen volledig uit eigen initiatief exclusief voor jeugdwerkers. Ben je bijvoorbeeld verantwoordelijk voor de website van jouw vereniging en je kan wel een ruggesteuntje verdragen, schrijf je dan in voor een cursus.• Access: zaterdag 15, zaterdag 22 en zaterdag 29 januari 2005• Adobe Photoshop: vrijdag 18 februari 2005• Excel: vrijdag 25 februari 2005 • Flash beginners: vrijdag 11 februari 2005• Flash medium: vrijdag 4 maart 2005• Flash Pro: vrijdag 11 maart 2005• Nieuwsbrief opstellen en versturen: vrijdag 18 maart 2005• Word gevorderd: vrijdag 25 maart 2005• Kids, teens en computers: donderdag 12 mei 2005• Promo voor je site: donderdag 26 mei 2005• Webmaster basis: vrijdag 13 mei en vrijdag 20 mei 2005• Webpaketten: vrijdag 27 mei 2005• Indesig! n: vrijdag 10, vrijdag 17en vrijdag 24 juni 2005• Special: Webcamp: vrijdag 8, zaterdag 9 en zondag 10 april 2005Alle vormingen gaan door in het Jeugdwerknet gebouw te Gent (200 m van Sint-Pieters station)Vanaf vrijdag kan je het volledige vormingsaanbod vinden op http://www.jeugdwerknet.be/vormingsaanbod. Nieuws van buitenaf5 jaar bosvriendelijk spelen onder de loepInverde vzw, voorheen educatief bosbouwcentrum Groenendaal deed een enquete bij 224 jeugdwerkers en boswachters. Het resultaat van de enquete kan je binnenkort lezen op de website www.bosspel.be. Uitstel voor aanpassingen aan nieuwe VZW-wetNormaalgezien ging de nieuwe VZW-wet van start vanaf 1 januari 2005. Blijkbaar is slechts 20% van de vzw’s in orde met de boekhouding die hierbij vereist wordt. Daarom besliste minister Onkelinx (justitie) om de vzw’s nog een jaar uitstel te geven. Meer info: http://www.ejustice.just.fgov.be/tsv_pub/index_n.htmGeflitst op de internetIn deze nieuwe rubriek gaan we opzoek naar in! teressante, originele of vernieuwde jeugdwerk website. Websites voor deze rubriek kan je mailen naar [EMAIL PROTECTED] De afdeling Jeugd en Sport stak de site en z’n ezine in een nieuw jasje. Ze kozen resoluut voor een logische inhoudsindeling en een gedetailleerde, maar overzichtelijke structuur. De startpagina maakt je meteen wegwijs in alle aspecten van het jeugd(werk)beleid van de Vlaamse overheid. Je vindt verder in de site een schat aan informatie over de subsidiemogelijkheden voor jongeren, jeugdverenigingen en overheden, het Vlaamse jeugdbeleidsplan, internationale initiatieven, wetenschappelijk onderzoek, regelgeving, publicaties ... De website richt zich vooral naar de jeugd(werk)sector en al wie op Vlaams, provinciaal en lokaal niveau met jeugd(werk) en jeugdbeleid bezig is, maar kan ook voor de geïnteresseerde leek of jongere een bron van informatie zijn. Benieuwd? Neem alvast een kijkje op www.jeugdbeleid.be. Het jeugdwerk forumattest hoofdinstructor (5) lichtgevende oogjes (3) gezocht voor verbouwende scouts (0) Away Of Living (4) Cursus Instructeur (10) te huur kampplaats tot 40 personen, augustus 2005 (4) Gezocht: astronautenkoepels (1) Go-carts gezocht (1) Op kamp naar de USA??? (1) Gezocht: weekendplaats voor groepsweekend +/- 200 pers (1) Nieuwe organisaties op Jeugdwerknetwww.jeugdwerknet.be/adressenJeugdklub 2470; Chiro Roy, Gruitrode; Jeugdraad Moorslede; Jongerencentrum Kavka, Antwerpen; Jrk Ronse; Somepro, Turnhout; Jobs in jeugdwerklandLet op: dit zijn enkel de nieuwe vacatures. Voor meer, surf naar: www.jeugdwerknet.be/jobs- Tegenstroom - educatief medewerker (bezinningsbegeleider) - halftijds - vzw Jeugd & Gezondheid - educatief medewerker - Pirlewiet - zwangerschapsinterim halftijds - Gemeentelijke Jeugddienst - 1 voltijds toezichter m/v voor het jeugdcentrum Bergendries - Jongerencentrum Kavka - voltijdse! projectcoördinator/jeugdwerker voor het project fuifzaal- Jeugd Rode Kruis - Redactie jeugdwerknetReacties en berichten voor de nieuwsbrief: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nieuwsbrief is een uitgave van Jeugdwerknet vzw, Dé plek op internet voor jeugdwerkers Indien je niet langer deze nieuwsbrief wilt ontvangen, klik dan op deze link:http://www.jeugdwerknet.be/html/special/[EMAIL PROTECTED] --=_20bb7fa5ed2fb3486cec25d429cc4b83 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <TITLE>Jeugdwerknet nieuwsbrief</TITLE> </head> <body> <TABLE cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D0 width=3D"100%" background=3Dhttp://w= ww.jeugdwerknet.be/images/site/pixel666666_bg.gif border=3D0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD width=3D250><IMG height=3D65 alt=3DJeugdwerknet src=3D"http://www.jeugd= werknet.be/images/logo/logo_ventjekop.gif" width=3D250 border=3D0></TD> <TD align=3Dmiddle><FONT color=3Dwhite size=3D+2>Jeugdwerknet Nieuwsbrief n= r. 177</FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><FONT color=3Ddarkgray size=3D+1> <P><FONT color=3Ddarkgray size=3D+1><FONT color=3Ddarkgray><FONT color=3D#0= 00000><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><STRONG>Inhoud<BR></STRONG><BR></FO= NT></FONT></FONT><FONT color=3D#000000><A class=3D"" href=3D"#1" target=3D"= "><FONT color=3D#000000><A class=3D"" href=3D"#1" target=3D""><FONT face=3D= Arial color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Jeugdwerknet nieuws</FONT></A><BR></FONT></A= ></A></FONT><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT color=3D#000000><A class=3D"" href= =3D"#5" target=3D""><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Nieuws van = buitenaf</FONT></A><BR></FONT></A></A><FONT face=3DArial><A class=3D"" href= =3D"#88" target=3D""><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><FONT color=3D#00000= 0>Actueel op het jeugdwerk forum</FONT><BR></FONT></FONT></A></FONT><A clas= s=3D"" href=3D"#3" target=3D""><FONT color=3D#000000><A class=3D"" href=3D"= #3" target=3D""><FONT color=3D#000000><A class=3D"" name=3D#4><FONT color= =3D#000000><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT color=3D#000000><A class=3D"" href= =3D"#6" target=3D""><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Nieuwe orga= nisaties op Jeugdwerknet</FONT></A><BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT color=3D#= 000000><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT color=3D#000000><F= ONT color=3D#000000><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT color= =3D#000000><FONT color=3D#000000><A class=3D"" href=3D"#7" target=3D""><FON= T color=3D#000000><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT color= =3D#000000><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT color=3D#00000= 0><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT color=3D#000000><A class=3D"" href=3D"#7" tar= get=3D""><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Jobs in Jeugdwerkland<= /FONT></A></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></= FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT>= </FONT><FONT color=3D#ff9900><FONT color=3D#ff9900><FONT color=3D#ff9900><B= R><BR><A class=3D"" name=3D1><FONT color=3D#ff9900><FONT color=3D#ff9900><S= TRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jeugdwerknet nieuws</FONT></STRONG></A><A= class=3D"" href=3D"www.victor-y.be" target=3D""><FONT color=3D#ff9900><FON= T color=3D#ff9900><BR></FONT></FONT></A><BR><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#000= 000 size=3D2><STRONG>Het nieuwe vormingsaanbod voor het voorjaar is er!<BR>= <BR></STRONG>Jeugdwerknet geeft een aantal vormingen volledig uit eigen ini= tiatief exclusief voor jeugdwerkers. Ben je bijvoorbeeld verantwoordelijk v= oor de website van jouw vereniging en je kan wel een ruggesteuntje verdrage= n, schrijf je dan in voor een cursus.<BR><BR>=95 Access: zaterdag 15, zater= dag 22 en zaterdag 29 januari 2005<BR>=95 Adobe Photoshop: vrijdag 18 febru= ari 2005<BR>=95 Excel: vrijdag 25 februari 2005 <BR>=95 Flash beginners: vr= ijdag 11 februari 2005<BR>=95 Flash medium: vrijdag 4 maart 2005<BR>=95 Fla= sh Pro: vrijdag 11 maart 2005<BR>=95 Nieuwsbrief opstellen en versturen: vr= ijdag 18 maart 2005<BR>=95 Word gevorderd: vrijdag 25 maart 2005<BR>=95 Kid= s, teens en computers: donderdag 12 mei 2005<BR>=95 Promo voor je site: don= derdag 26 mei 2005<BR>=95 Webmaster basis: vrijdag 13 mei en vrijdag 20 mei= 2005<BR>=95 Webpaketten: vrijdag 27 mei 2005<BR>=95 Indesign: vrijdag 10, = vrijdag 17en vrijdag 24 juni 2005<BR>=95 Special: Webcamp: vrijdag 8, zater= dag 9 en zondag 10 april 2005<BR><BR>Alle vormingen gaan door in het J= eugdwerknet gebouw te Gent (200 m van Sint-Pieters station)<BR>Vanaf vrijda= g kan je het volledige vormingsaanbod vinden op <A href=3D"http://www.jeugd= werknet.be/vormingsaanbod">http://www.jeugdwerknet.be/vormingsaanbod</A>.<B= R> </FONT><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>N</FONT><A class=3D"" name= =3D5><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#ff9933 size=3D2><STRONG>ieuws van buitenaf= </STRONG></FONT></A><BR></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT><?= xml:namespace prefix =3D o ns =3D "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"= /><O:P><FONT color=3Ddarkgray><FONT color=3Ddarkgray><FONT color=3D#ff9900= ><FONT color=3D#000000><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><= FONT color=3D#000000><FONT color=3D#ff9900><FONT color=3D#ffcc00><FONT colo= r=3D#000000><BR><STRONG>5 jaar bosvriendelijk spelen onder de loep<BR></STR= ONG><BR>Inverde vzw, voorheen educatief bosbouwcentrum Groenendaal deed een= enquete bij 224 jeugdwerkers en boswachters. Het resultaat van de enquete = kan je binnenkort lezen op de website <A href=3D"http://www.bosspel.be= ">www.bosspel.be</A>. <BR></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT>= </FONT></FONT></O:P><O:P><FONT color=3Ddarkgray><FONT color=3Ddarkgray><FON= T color=3D#ff9900><FONT color=3D#000000><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT= -FAMILY: Arial"><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT color=3D#ff9900><FONT color=3D#= ffcc00><FONT color=3D#ff9933><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT size=3D2><BR><STRO= NG>Uitstel voor aanpassingen aan nieuwe VZW-wet<BR></STRONG><BR>Normaalgezi= en ging de nieuwe VZW-wet van start vanaf 1 januari 2005. Blijkbaar is slec= hts 20% van de vzw=92s in orde met de boekhouding die hierbij vereist wordt= . Daarom besliste minister Onkelinx (justitie) om de vzw=92s nog een jaar u= itstel te geven. <BR><BR></FONT></FONT><FONT color=3D#000000>Meer info: </F= ONT><A href=3D"http://www.ejustice.just.fgov.be/tsv_pub/index_n.htm";><FONT = color=3D#000000>http://www.ejustice.just.fgov.be/tsv_pub/index_n.htm</FONT>= </A><BR><A class=3D"" name=3D5><BR><FONT size=3D2><STRONG>Geflitst op de in= ternet<BR></STRONG><BR><FONT color=3D#000000>In deze nieuwe rubriek gaan we= opzoek naar interessante, originele of vernieuwde jeugdwerk website. = Websites voor deze rubriek kan je mailen naar [EMAIL PROTECTED]<BR>= <BR></FONT><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000>www.jeugdbeleid.be<BR></FONT></STR= ONG><BR><FONT color=3D#000000></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=3D2>De afdeli= ng Jeugd en Sport stak de site en z=92n ezine in een nieuw jasje. Ze kozen = resoluut voor een logische inhoudsindeling en een gedetailleerde, maar over= zichtelijke structuur. De startpagina maakt je meteen wegwijs in alle aspec= ten van het jeugd(werk)beleid van de Vlaamse overheid. Je vindt verder in d= e site een schat aan informatie over de subsidiemogelijkheden voor jongeren= , jeugdverenigingen en overheden, het Vlaamse jeugdbeleidsplan, internation= ale initiatieven, wetenschappelijk onderzoek, regelgeving, publicaties ... = </FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=3D2>De websit= e richt zich vooral naar de jeugd(werk)sector en al wie op Vlaams, provinci= aal en lokaal niveau met jeugd(werk) en jeugdbeleid bezig is, maar kan ook = voor de ge=EFnteresseerde leek of jongere een bron van informatie zijn. </F= ONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><o:p><FONT size=3D2>&nbs= p;</FONT></o:p></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=3D2>Benieuwd?= Neem alvast een kijkje op </FONT></A><A href=3D"http://www.jeugdbeleid.be/= " target=3D_blank><FONT size=3D2>www.jeugdbeleid.be</FONT></A><A class=3D""= name=3D5><FONT size=3D2>. </FONT></FONT><FONT color=3D#000000><BR></FONT><= BR><STRONG>Het jeugdwerk forum</STRONG></FONT></FONT></A><BR></FONT><FONT c= olor=3D#ff9900><BR><FONT size=3D2><A href=3D"http://www.jeugdwerknet.be/for= a/viewtopic.php?t=3D327" target=3D_top><FONT color=3D#000000>attest hoofdin= structor</FONT></A><FONT color=3D#000000> (5) </FONT><A href=3D"http://www.= jeugdwerknet.be/fora/viewtopic.php?p=3D2915#2915" target=3D_top><FONT color= =3D#000000><IMG title=3D"Bekijk laatste bericht" alt=3D"Bekijk laatste beri= cht" src=3D"http://www.jeugdwerknet.be/fora/templates/aallixSilver/images/i= con_latest_reply.gif" border=3D0></FONT></A><BR><A href=3D"http://www.jeugd= werknet.be/fora/viewtopic.php?t=3D616" target=3D_top><FONT color=3D#000000>= lichtgevende oogjes</FONT></A><FONT color=3D#000000> (3) </FONT><A href=3D"= http://www.jeugdwerknet.be/fora/viewtopic.php?p=3D2914#2914"; target=3D_top>= <FONT color=3D#000000><IMG title=3D"Bekijk laatste bericht" alt=3D"Bekijk l= aatste bericht" src=3D"http://www.jeugdwerknet.be/fora/templates/aallixSilv= er/images/icon_latest_reply.gif" border=3D0></FONT></A><BR><A href=3D"http:= //www.jeugdwerknet.be/fora/viewtopic.php?t=3D619" target=3D_top><FONT color= =3D#000000>gezocht voor verbouwende scouts</FONT></A><FONT color=3D#000000>= (0) </FONT><A href=3D"http://www.jeugdwerknet.be/fora/viewtopic.php?p=3D29= 13#2913" target=3D_top><FONT color=3D#000000><IMG title=3D"Bekijk laatste b= ericht" alt=3D"Bekijk laatste bericht" src=3D"http://www.jeugdwerknet.be/fo= ra/templates/aallixSilver/images/icon_latest_reply.gif" border=3D0></FONT><= /A><BR><A href=3D"http://www.jeugdwerknet.be/fora/viewtopic.php?t=3D592"; ta= rget=3D_top><FONT color=3D#000000>Away Of Living</FONT></A><FONT color=3D#0= 00000> (4) </FONT><A href=3D"http://www.jeugdwerknet.be/fora/viewtopic.php?= p=3D2912#2912" target=3D_top><FONT color=3D#000000><IMG title=3D"Bekijk laa= tste bericht" alt=3D"Bekijk laatste bericht" src=3D"http://www.jeugdwerknet= .be/fora/templates/aallixSilver/images/icon_latest_reply.gif" border=3D0></= FONT></A><BR><A href=3D"http://www.jeugdwerknet.be/fora/viewtopic.php?t=3D3= 60" target=3D_top><FONT color=3D#000000>Cursus Instructeur</FONT></A><FONT = color=3D#000000> (10) </FONT><A href=3D"http://www.jeugdwerknet.be/fora/vie= wtopic.php?p=3D2911#2911" target=3D_top><FONT color=3D#000000><IMG title=3D= "Bekijk laatste bericht" alt=3D"Bekijk laatste bericht" src=3D"http://www.j= eugdwerknet.be/fora/templates/aallixSilver/images/icon_latest_reply.gif" bo= rder=3D0></FONT></A><BR><A href=3D"http://www.jeugdwerknet.be/fora/viewtopi= c.php?t=3D614" target=3D_top><FONT color=3D#000000>te huur kampplaats tot 4= 0 personen, augustus 2005</FONT></A><FONT color=3D#000000> (4) </FONT><A hr= ef=3D"http://www.jeugdwerknet.be/fora/viewtopic.php?p=3D2909#2909"; target= =3D_top><FONT color=3D#000000><IMG title=3D"Bekijk laatste bericht" alt=3D"= Bekijk laatste bericht" src=3D"http://www.jeugdwerknet.be/fora/templates/aa= llixSilver/images/icon_latest_reply.gif" border=3D0></FONT></A><BR><A href= =3D"http://www.jeugdwerknet.be/fora/viewtopic.php?t=3D615"; target=3D_top><F= ONT color=3D#000000>Gezocht: astronautenkoepels</FONT></A><FONT color=3D#00= 0000> (1) </FONT><A href=3D"http://www.jeugdwerknet.be/fora/viewtopic.php?p= =3D2904#2904" target=3D_top><FONT color=3D#000000><IMG title=3D"Bekijk laat= ste bericht" alt=3D"Bekijk laatste bericht" src=3D"http://www.jeugdwerknet.= be/fora/templates/aallixSilver/images/icon_latest_reply.gif" border=3D0></F= ONT></A><BR><A href=3D"http://www.jeugdwerknet.be/fora/viewtopic.php?t=3D60= 3" target=3D_top><FONT color=3D#000000>Go-carts gezocht</FONT></A><FONT col= or=3D#000000> (1) </FONT><A href=3D"http://www.jeugdwerknet.be/fora/viewtop= ic.php?p=3D2888#2888" target=3D_top><FONT color=3D#000000><IMG title=3D"Bek= ijk laatste bericht" alt=3D"Bekijk laatste bericht" src=3D"http://www.jeugd= werknet.be/fora/templates/aallixSilver/images/icon_latest_reply.gif" border= =3D0></FONT></A><BR><A href=3D"http://www.jeugdwerknet.be/fora/viewtopic.ph= p?t=3D608" target=3D_top><FONT color=3D#000000>Op kamp naar de USA???</FONT= ></A><FONT color=3D#000000> (1) </FONT><A href=3D"http://www.jeugdwerknet.b= e/fora/viewtopic.php?p=3D2871#2871" target=3D_top><FONT color=3D#000000><IM= G title=3D"Bekijk laatste bericht" alt=3D"Bekijk laatste bericht" src=3D"ht= tp://www.jeugdwerknet.be/fora/templates/aallixSilver/images/icon_latest_rep= ly.gif" border=3D0></FONT></A><BR><A href=3D"http://www.jeugdwerknet.be/for= a/viewtopic.php?t=3D605" target=3D_top><FONT color=3D#000000>Gezocht: weeke= ndplaats voor groepsweekend +/- 200 pers</FONT></A><FONT color=3D#000000> (= 1) </FONT><A href=3D"http://www.jeugdwerknet.be/fora/viewtopic.php?p=3D2868= #2868" target=3D_top><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000><IMG title=3D"Bekijk laa= tste bericht" alt=3D"Bekijk laatste bericht" src=3D"http://www.jeugdwerknet= .be/fora/templates/aallixSilver/images/icon_latest_reply.gif" border=3D0></= FONT></STRONG></A></FONT><A class=3D"" name=3D6><BR><BR><STRONG><FONT size= =3D2>Nieuwe organisaties op Jeugdwerknet</FONT></STRONG></FONT></A><BR><BR>= </FONT><A href=3D"http://www.jeugdwerknet.be/adressen";><FONT color=3D#00000= 0 size=3D2>www.jeugdwerknet.be/adressen</FONT></A><BR><BR></FONT></FONT></S= PAN></FONT><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT color=3D#ff9900><FONT color=3D#ff990= 0><FONT color=3D#ff9900><FONT color=3D#ff9900><FONT color=3D#ff9900><FONT c= olor=3D#ff9900><FONT color=3D#ff9900><FONT color=3D#ff9900><FONT color=3D#f= f9900><FONT color=3D#ff9900><FONT color=3D#ff9900><FONT color=3D#ff9900><FO= NT color=3D#ff9900><FONT color=3D#ff9900><FONT color=3D#ff9900><FONT color= =3D#ff9900><FONT color=3D#ff9900><FONT color=3D#ff9900><FONT color=3D#00000= 0><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jeugdklub 2470; Chiro Roy, Gruitrode; Jeugdra= ad Moorslede; Jongerencentrum Kavka, Antwerpen; Jrk Ronse; Somepro, Turnhou= t; <BR><BR></FONT></FONT><A class=3D"" name=3D7><FONT face=3DArial color=3D= #ff9900 size=3D2><STRONG>Jobs in jeugdwerkland</STRONG></FONT></A><A class= =3D"" name=3D4><BR></A><A class=3D"" name=3D7></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT><= /FONT></FONT></FONT></A></FONT></A><A class=3D"" name=3D5></FONT></FONT></F= ONT></A></FONT></A><A class=3D"" name=3D5></FONT></A></FONT></A></FONT></A>= <BR><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Let op: dit zijn enkel de n= ieuwe vacatures. Voor meer, surf naar: </FONT><A class=3D"" href=3D"http://= www.jeugdwerknet.be/jobs" target=3D""><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#000000 si= ze=3D2>www.jeugdwerknet.be/jobs</FONT></A><BR><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT c= olor=3D#000000><FONT color=3D#a9a9a9><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT face=3DAri= al size=3D2><BR>- Tegenstroom - educatief medewerker (bezinningsbegeleider)= - halftijds <BR>- vzw Jeugd & Gezondheid - educatief medewerker <BR>- = Pirlewiet - zwangerschapsinterim halftijds <BR>- Gemeentelijke Jeugddienst = - 1 voltijds toezichter m/v voor het jeugdcentrum Bergendries <BR>- Jongere= ncentrum Kavka - voltijdse projectco=F6rdinator/jeugdwerker voor het projec= t fuifzaal<BR>- Jeugd Rode Kruis - <BR></FONT></FONT><FONT color=3D#ff6600>= <STRONG><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Redactie jeugdwerknet</FONT></STRON= G><BR><BR></FONT><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY:= Arial">Reacties </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-= FAMILY: Arial">en berichten voor de nieuwsbrief: </SPAN><SPAN><A href=3D"ma= ilto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A class=3D"= " href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"; 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Vielleicht ist dies ja der Gerhard Pohl, den Du suchst: Gerhard Pohl * 15.08.1920 in Ohlau + ??.2002 in Torgau, geheiratet hatte er 1943 in Breslau. Der Sohn wohnt in Sitzenroda und die Tochter in Leipzig. Liebe Gr=FC=DFe Michaela Beer -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Maria-Anne Pohl Gesendet: Sonntag, 12. Dezember 2004 21:07 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: [NSL] Personensuche in Breslau 1941 Hallo Ernst (Hoffmann), kannst Du so nett sein und im Adressbuch Breslau 1941 mal nachsehen ob es dort einen Adolf Pohl, einen Kurt Pohl oder einen Gerhard Pohl gab und mir die Angaben mailen. Ich wei=DF n=E4mlich nicht viel von meinem Vater und seinen Verwandten, da mein Vater schon lange gestorben ist und er keinen Kontakt mehr zu seiner Familie hatte. Noch einen sch=F6nen 3. 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CNET Networks 235 Second Street San Francisco, CA 94105 USA --25580635.1103133420248.JavaMail.app.c10-btg-harvest2.cnet.com-- From jeff Wed Dec 15 17:56:44 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 09:56:44 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@mail-archive.com Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:56:44 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx117.postini.com ([64.18.0.89] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CedOG-0000u0-00 for <archive@mail-archive.com>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:56:44 -0800 Received: from source ([209.239.33.40]) by exprod5mx117.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:59:26 CST Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by host24.websitesource.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) id iBFHxP60002858 for archive@mail-archive.com; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:59:25 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:56:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: host24.websitesource.com: dbrewer set sender to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Enabled Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:56:07 +0100 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailing-List: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> archive/latest/134981 X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 Why would I want to use a Microdrive? Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: John Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 15. december 2004 18:37 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Enabled Jens Bladt mused: > > Congrats Dave > >I see what you all mean about the CF card door. > >Bit of a pain,but i'll work out something > Open the door. Press the button. Tilt the camera to the right. > Pull it out, using the nail of your right thumb - enough to take it the rest > of the way with two fingers. Sure. Now try that with a MicroDrive. On occasion you'll need to exert rather more effort than you'll be able to manage using the above procedure, and unless you're applying the force *exactly* in the direction needed to remove the media all you'll do is wedge things in a little harder. (I'm not sure where you'd apply pressure with the thumbnail, either; there's no ridge on the upper surface of a MicroDrive, and the camera body prevents you getting at the lower surface) I carry a special tool (basically a pair of oversized tweezers with a small lip at the end of the blades); other folks have added little extraction handles to their CF cards using some variety of adhesive tape. I'd be very cautious trying that with a MicroDrive; they're already thicker than a regular CF II card, and you don't want to end up with something that will be too thick for the available space. Make sure you use a thin tape if you try that, and check the corners regularly every time you go to re-insert it.
