OK, I have the test scores for one of my local schools handy: Based on the four percentages listed for each school year, the State of New Mexico has given this school the following ratings:
School Year 99-00 PROBATIONARY Exemplary 5.13 % Exceeds 10.26 % Meets 17.95 % Probationary 66.67 % School Year 00-01 PROBATIONARY Exemplary 13.65 % Exceeds 19.5 % Meets 16.58 % Probationary 50.27 % School Year 01-02 PROBATIONARY Exemplary 10.02 % Exceeds 9.31 % Meets 12.26 % Probationary 68.4 % School Year 02-03 PROBATIONARY Exemplary 3.42 % Exceeds 3.87 % Meets 16.27 % Probationary 76.44 % School Year 03-04 This school HAS NOT MET Adequate Yearly Progress My point is that three out of four children at this school are not passing a test even when the bar is set rather low. So three out of four of those children could use a little help, regardless of their race. But the time to do it is BEFORE college or we well all be dumbed down to death. Dana On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:16:46 -0600, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know Gruss, that's a fine line you are walking there. > > I think all schools should value diversity in culture...or race. However, > you argue that it is ok for these schools to "enforce" this diversity > through its admissions programs. > > This is where I disagree. The way I see it, if you value diversity, then > create a school environment that appeals to different cultures. A truly > diverse academic environment can be created without applying racial profiles > during the admission process. In fact, doing the latter is wrong in all > instances in my opinion. Even if it's "meant well". > > > >> Brian wrote: > >> I don't think race should matter one iota, not one bit. Shouldn't even be > >> considered. Anything less is racism. > >> > >> I'm stubborn about this :) > >> > > > > I think this is misplaced support for meritoratic systems, which I support > > also. > > > > I think race should count for schools that value diversity - however > > maybe rather than say "race" they should say culture. This > > institution might want Asians, Europeans (French, German, etc.), > > Arabs, Jews, etc. In that case, "racism" is fine. > > > > If, on the other hand, an institution is judging for "the best and > > brightest" based on tests, then race shouldn't be considered. There's > > other cases too. > > > > The bottom line is, saying that any consideration of race is "racism" > > does a disservice to victims of racism. > > > > If the issue is AA, then I'm against it in principle. If we're > > talking about public schools, then I think they should be strictly > > meritocratic. If we're talking about private schools or businesses, > > then I think they should be able to accept or hire who they want. > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:144315 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
