I thought so to.... Yves
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:42:42 -0500, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought the NORAD amendment that was signed in Sept of 2004 specifically > allowed for this, I'll have to go find the exact text. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 1:36 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: No Defense over Canada > > > > NO it poisition does not conflict with any current treaty like NATO > > and NORAD. Those provisions are already in place and very specifically > > defined. For instance there is dual notification for both the > > President and Prime Minister in the NORAD treaties. However the SDI is > > beyond the provisions of NORAD. > > > > Moreover the Canadian public's opinion is solidly against > > participation in the SDI. So the prime minister should go against the > > opinion of his own nation? > > > > larry > > > > > > On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:18:40 -0500, Nick McClure > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > IIRC, the NATO agreement states that attack against one member nation is > > an > > > attack against all member nations. > > > > > > If there is a missile attack against the US, it is my understanding that > > > Canada, as a NATO member is the responsibility to assist the US in its > > own > > > defense, this Canadian position goes against NORAD, and NATO. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 1:04 PM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: Re: No Defense over Canada > > > > > > > > So you think that there is no such thing as sovereignty and air > > > > rights. Also in that case I guess that the arguments the US put > > > > forward since the 50's regarding control of US air space was specious > > > > - hey the aircraft/missile was over 10 feet from the ground. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:20:41 -0500, Michael Dinowitz > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > If a missile launched at America is over Canada, then I believe it > > is > > > > not > > > > > only allowed but required to shoot it down. We're not talking a > > missile > > > > at > > > > > 10 feet over the ground. When it's over Canada, it's miles up. When > > it's > > > > > over the Arctic, it's miles up and not over Canada. > > > > > We're talking lives here. We're talking a specific situation where > > lives > > > > are > > > > > at risk. When it comes to saving lives, I say screw airspace! save > > > > people > > > > > before political posturing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So its OK to violate another nation's sovereignty whenever you > > want > > > > > > and with no consequences. I guess the converse would also be true, > > > > > > other nations can violate US airspace at will then without > > > > > > consequences. > > > > > > > > > > > > Typical US attitude - screw the rest of the world, especially your > > > > > > allies. Real brilliant.It will get to the point that the only US > > > > > > allies will be paid. > > > > > > > > > > > > As for the missile tracks - remember where a good third of the > > ICBM's > > > > > > are based, and how many of those russian nukes are really > > controlled > > > > > > by Moscow. > > > > > > > > > > > > larry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:33:39 -0500, Michael Dinowitz > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> OK, so we either have to keep the Canadians happy or we can save > > our > > > > > >> rears. I go for the latter. Screw diplomacy, save my hide! > > > > > >> > > > > > > http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/news/nation/1099766 > > > > 8.htm > > > > > >> > > > > > >> (though chances are we'll never see a missile attack come through > > > > > >> Canadian air space and they know it. Just posturing) > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:148630 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54