I thought so to....

Yves


On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:42:42 -0500, Nick McClure
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I thought the NORAD amendment that was signed in Sept of 2004 specifically
> allowed for this, I'll have to go find the exact text.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 1:36 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: No Defense over Canada
> >
> > NO it poisition does not conflict with any current treaty like NATO
> > and NORAD. Those provisions are already in place and very specifically
> > defined. For instance there is dual notification for both the
> > President and Prime Minister in the NORAD treaties. However the SDI is
> > beyond the provisions of NORAD.
> >
> > Moreover the Canadian public's opinion is solidly against
> > participation in the SDI. So the prime minister should go against the
> > opinion of his own nation?
> >
> > larry
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:18:40 -0500, Nick McClure
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > IIRC, the NATO agreement states that attack against one member nation is
> > an
> > > attack against all member nations.
> > >
> > > If there is a missile attack against the US, it is my understanding that
> > > Canada, as a NATO member is the responsibility to assist the US in its
> > own
> > > defense, this Canadian position goes against NORAD, and NATO.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 1:04 PM
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: Re: No Defense over Canada
> > > >
> > > > So you think that there is no such thing as sovereignty and air
> > > > rights. Also in that case I guess that the arguments the US put
> > > > forward since the 50's regarding control of US air space was specious
> > > > - hey the aircraft/missile was over 10 feet from the ground.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:20:41 -0500, Michael Dinowitz
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > If a missile launched at America is over Canada, then I believe it
> > is
> > > > not
> > > > > only allowed but required to shoot it down. We're not talking a
> > missile
> > > > at
> > > > > 10 feet over the ground. When it's over Canada, it's miles up. When
> > it's
> > > > > over the Arctic, it's miles up and not over Canada.
> > > > > We're talking lives here. We're talking a specific situation where
> > lives
> > > > are
> > > > > at risk. When it comes to saving lives, I say screw airspace! save
> > > > people
> > > > > before political posturing.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > So its OK to violate another nation's sovereignty whenever you
> > want
> > > > > > and with no consequences. I guess the converse would also be true,
> > > > > > other nations can violate US airspace at will then without
> > > > > > consequences.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Typical US attitude - screw the rest of the world, especially your
> > > > > > allies. Real brilliant.It will get to the point that the only US
> > > > > > allies will be paid.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As for the missile tracks - remember where a good third of the
> > ICBM's
> > > > > > are based, and how many of those russian nukes are really
> > controlled
> > > > > > by Moscow.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > larry
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:33:39 -0500, Michael Dinowitz
> > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >> OK, so we either have to keep the Canadians happy or we can save
> > our
> > > > > >> rears. I go for the latter. Screw diplomacy, save my hide!
> > > > > >>
> > > >
> > http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/news/nation/1099766
> > > > 8.htm
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> (though chances are we'll never see a missile attack come through
> > > > > >> Canadian air space and they know it. Just posturing)
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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