Its something I've knicknamed colonizing the future. Its when any
particular point of view, religious or otherwise, tries to gain
control of things like the boy scouts etc. This way it helps to
generate new followers for the movement.

larry


On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:19:42 -0800, Ken Ketsdever
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In today's increasingly religious right slanted society I can see how it 
> could easily influence scouting.  That's a shame.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 11:12 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Pinewood Derby
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 1:53 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Pinewood Derby
> >
> > >>I earned my eagle scout badge and looked forward to rejoining scouting
> > >>when my son got to the right age, but it was just too much of a
> > >>religious organization anymore. Too many thumpers!
> >
> > I know exactly what you mean. They were discussing the cub scout motto and
> > talking about obeying "gods laws", I had to struggle to keep my mouth
> > shut.
> 
> Yeah... ain't it a shame.
> 
> My troop (good old 580 in Tonawanda, NY) was actually quite open and
> respectful.  We learned good things like "leave places better than you found
> them".  We didn't enforce religious or sexual exclusion policies and in
> general focused more on the teamwork and respect for nature aspects.
> 
> But when we'd go out and interact with (some) other troops you could see the
> other-side.  Some troops were nothing more than weekend jag-offs (when the
> scoutmasters bring a keg to the camp-site you know there's not much good
> coming out of it) and others were zealots (prayer time and anti-gay
> propaganda).
> 
> I served as advisor to a cub troop and was senior patrol leader for my troop
> (but I never did make Eagle... I had everything I needed but was too much of
> a fat bastard to get my physical fitness badge).
> 
> Now that my son is six I'm honestly torn about it.  I would love him to have
> memories like mine but it just doesn't seem the same anymore.  (If it was
> really the same then... or I just lucked out and found a good troop.)
> 
> Jim Davis
> 
> 

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