I have played with the idea of making a Lazlo website for Freecycle
stuff but I have never had the time to flesh it all out. I figured it
would be an interesting first project for Lazlo, that and a blog which
I am still working on. Now if Macromedia could just get flex into a
hosting server...

Adam H


On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:49:10 -0600, Eric Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I buy into this stuff. I just joined some of the local freecycle lists. They 
> really need someone to build something specifically for their groups. mailing 
> list with online application for wants and gives.
> 
> [my hang up - I don't really feel comfortable asking for anything, but I 
> would ask my friends for some things I am looking for but not willing to 
> spend tons of coin.]
> 
> I like the notion of using a social network engine as the basis of this type 
> of application, so you can gift and share outward from your sphere of 
> influence. ie family, friends, friends of friends and family etc, guys on the 
> hockey team... etc
> 
> And since you create a tool that allows people to create social connections - 
> a key sharing function would be nice
> - cooperative purchasing // repackaging
> - gifting
> - sharing
> 
> If anyone starts a project I would host for my community and contribute as I 
> can.
> 
> Eric
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: March 18, 2005 7:16 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: interesting idea
> 
> Excellent idea - okay, who's going to write the CF version. ;)
> 
> On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:14:40 -0700, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > http://smh.com.au/articles/2005/03/17/1110913726676.html?oneclick=true
> >
> > German firm goes one better than eBay
> > Hanover, Germany
> > March 18, 2005
> >
> > Page Tools
> > Email to a friend Printer format
> > Need a grill for a weekend cookout, a bike rack for a vacation or just
> > a little renewed faith in human nature? A German firm has started what
> > it calls the world's first online borrowing exchange and been startled
> > by the results.
> >
> > Die Borger (German for lenders or borrowers) was inspired by the
> > runaway success of global internet auctions empire eBay, but instead
> > of allowing users to buy and sell products and services, it helps
> > offer them free.
> >
> > Andreas Kahnert, 41, and Thomas Pfuetzner, 38, were university friends
> > and later colleagues in the IT industry when they came up with the
> > idea.
> >
> > "We had set up a DVD trading service for our sports club and then over
> > Christmas we asked ourselves why we couldn't extend the idea to all
> > kinds of products for all kinds of people," Kahnert said in an
> > interview at the CeBIT tech fair which was held in the northern city
> > of Hanover.
> >
> > In the year since www.DieBorger.de went online, what began as a lark
> > has become something of a phenomenon with sites in Austria and
> > Switzerland and more than 4000 users who have registered nearly 9000
> > objects.
> >
> > Advertisement
> > AdvertisementBorger are now trading a seemingly endless list of items
> > for limited periods of time including bobsleds, fondue pots,
> > camcorders, electric saws, scuba flippers, digital cameras, gardening
> > tools and Lord of the Rings DVD box sets.
> >
> > The system allows those seeking an item to search for it based on
> > postal codes and get a proximity ranking. Those in urban areas rarely
> > have far to look.
> >
> > Based on the principle of give-and-take, the site requires users to
> > sign up at least three items they are willing to lend before they can
> > begin borrowing.
> >
> > "We were surprised ourselves how well things have gone," Pfuetzner
> > said, insisting that the site had yet to hear a horror story from a
> > customer.
> >
> > "There may be trouble down the road when we get bigger but for now
> > things are running smoothly."
> >
> > Although both the entrepreneurs describe themselves as optimists, they
> > have built in three security guarantees to help inspire customer
> > confidence.
> >
> > Like eBay, lenders, borrowers and the objects are evaluated on a user
> > ratings system so cheats and fussbudgets quickly earn a bad reputation
> > that is publicised on the site.
> >
> > Die Borger also provides a draft contract that both parties sign
> > outlining their legal obligations. And borrowers leave a deposit based
> > on the lenders' estimate of the new value of their property.
> >
> > The site charges a nominal fee for borrowing, half of which goes to
> > the lender. But those who lend often win enough "credit" on the site
> > to borrow for free.
> >
> > Kahnert and Pfuetzner, who are both active Borger, said that people
> > who had initially just been hunting for a bargain were surprised to
> > have found a growing community.
> >
> > "You meet lots of people who share the same interests and are on the
> > same wavelength, sometimes even soul mates," Kahnert said.
> >
> > Kahnert, who had just lost his job when he started the company, said
> > he and Pfuetzner would like to expand throughout Europe and into the
> > United States and were looking for potential partners.
> >
> > But Kahnert said they had learned from experience when the internet
> > bubble burst in 2000 that no online start-up can survive on just a
> > clever idea.
> >
> > Pfuetzner said that if users begin to clock up an average of 
> > €5 per
> > year in mediator fees on the site, it would put the company in the
> > black.
> >
> > "There are 36 million internet users in Germany, around six million in
> > Austria and about eight million in Switzerland. If we get even a
> > fraction of that number, we'll be doing well," Kahnert said.
> >
> > "We just need to reach critical mass," Pfuetzner added.
> >
> > AFP
> 
> 

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