I never said I think he's guilty of abuse. And what's with Carrie Fisher?
On 4/14/05, William Bowen wrote: > > Can't you accept the fact that if charges are made there's a > > possibility he's guilty? > > Can't you accept the fact that our legal system is supposed to be > based on the presumption of INNOCENCE? I mean I know it's tough, what > with trial by media and all, but that is supposed to be the basis of > our legal system, no? > > > Even if it's a small possibility, it's still > > there. > > Even if the "small possibility" is there, we must presume INNOCENCE > until the preponderance of evidence PROVES guilt. > > > Like Dana says, it's very hard to tell who's an abuser but if > > someone has charges against him or her, let's have a look. Still > > innocent until proven guilty, but you seem to be saying there's no way > > he could be an abuser. > > And what you _seem_ to be saying is if he hadn't done anything wrong > there wouldn't be a charge. The flaw in that thinking is that it > presumes that only those who are guilty are ever charged with a crime, > and that just isn't the case. > > By all means, please investigate. Get to the bottom of it. But presume > innocence during. After all if he is guilty, there'll be plenty of > time for self congratulation, right. > > Gruss hasn't said there's "no way [Schiavo] could be an abuser." He's > saying that there isn't (unfortunately) an empirical checklist we can > go by, if-this-then-this. We have a metric pant-load of > "if-this-maybe-this-but-then-again-maybe-not." But nothing more... > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:154120 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54