On 6/30/05, Gruss Gott wrote: > It still works great. To end crime in your city use the Bush > Doctrine: put a big pile of money in a park and arrest all of the > criminals that come to get it. Pretty soon no more criminals, right?
Or let people walk around carrying money and every time someone gets mugged you arrest the mugger. Eventually the crime will be reduced. Your analogies are to far off to be applied to Iraq. > > 1.) It distracts the US from attacking Al Qaeda. > > We never let up on al Qaeda. > > That's not what US Special Forces in Afghanistan said. They said they > troop strength was reduced by 90% and they lost equipment support. Are you passing around crap you heard in the bar as facts or do you actually have a source this time:) Do they need to be at the same levels they were at before the Taliban fell? > > > > 2.) It erodes world support for America (except for Russia). > > I don't agree. > > Ok, but anyone that's actually studied the matter agrees with me. By studying do you really mean, "Believe the biased Pew polls"? > > 3.) It creates a test bed for techniques and weapons. > > Doesn't every war? The difference is the terrorists are dying in this > > training camp. > > Yes, the dumb ones die, are replaced by 2 more and the smart ones pass > along the technology to Bin Laden. Are you saying that in war only the dumb ones die? That's an extremely obnoxious thing to say and I hope you apologize for it. > > > > 4.) It creates a terrorist recruiting dream: find the good attackers > > and take them global. > > Huh? > > You throw a buch of guys into Bahgdad and some real leaders will > emerge. They'll be clever, motivated, well-trained, and battle > experienced. Now they're ready for the big leagues - attacking > America. Isn't that what every war does? Are you saying what they learn in Baghdad will help them with terrorist attacks against the US? Different battles and battlefields. > > > 6.) It demoralizes Americans. > > Only people like you do that. > > Wonderful! The Vietnam disease of shooting the messenger. We would have won Kennedy's Vietnam War if it weren't for Fonda, Kerry and people like you. > > 8.) It creates a false sense for security for people that buy the > > "fight them there" propaganda. > > As opposed to the real security of just sitting around and waiting? > > No. As opposed to using our full military effort to attack the people > that attacked us - Al qaeda. You might as well dig a ditch as invade > Iraq. They are both equally effective at dismantling Al Qaeda. If you only look for Bin Laden you will miss all the other terrorists. Al Qeada is in Iraq, they had connections to Iraq and Iraq was a safe haven for the terrorists. > > 10.) Americans are dying 2 per day from criminals of convenience > > rather than global terrorists. > > You think the insurgents are just criminals and not global terrorists? > yes. Do you have evidence otherwise? Yes as Matt pointed out: Gen. John Abizaid: "I believe there are more foreign fighters coming into Iraq than there were six months ago." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:162533 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
