Yes, but with the new  so called American Patriotism Act, roving electronic
wiretaps (i.e.., Carnivore) would not require the same judicial protections
as current wiretap laws.

larry

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:15 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Two points and then back to work
> 
> 
> Where did you hear that?  This is from the FBI website.  It's 
> the link 
> that I posted just a few minutes ago. 
> 
> "Under Title III, applications for interception require the 
> authorization of a high-level Department of Justice (DOJ) official 
> before the local United States Attorneys offices can apply for such 
> orders. Interception orders must be filed with federal district court 
> judges or before other courts of competent jurisdiction. "
> 
> That would make you wrong.
> 
> Michael Corrigan
> Programmer
> Endora Digital Solutions 
> www.endoradigital.com
> 630/942-5211 x-134
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Larry Lyons 
>   To: CF-Community 
>   Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:09 AM
>   Subject: RE: Two points and then back to work
> 
> 
>   However wiretaps require a warrant from a court, Carnivore does not 
> have
>   this requirement. Personally I think that before installing or 
> activating
>   Carnivore should require an equivalent warrant.
> 
>   larry
> 
>   --
>   Larry C. Lyons
>   ColdFusion/Web Developer
>   EBStor.com
>   8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
>   Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
>   tel:   (703) 393-7930
>   fax:   (703) 393-2659
>   Web:   http://www.ebstor.com
>          http://www.pacel.com
>   email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
>   --
> 
>   > -----Original Message-----
>   > From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:52 AM
>   > To: CF-Community
>   > Subject: Re: Two points and then back to work
>   > 
>   > 
>   > Carnivore is considered, by law, to be akin to something like 
>   > wire tapping - so, just like phone companies can't 
> refuse, neither 
> can
>   > ISP's.
>   > 
>   > Howie
>   > 
>   > ----- Original Message -----
>   > From: "Kevin Gilchrist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:48 AM
>   > Subject: RE: Two points and then back to work
>   > 
>   > 
>   > > Far better to grab the keys and passwords that to force 
>   > decrypt packets,
>   > > heh heh.
>   > >
>   > > From what I'd heard a lot of ISP's had baulked at 
>   > installing Carnivore
>   > > until 9/11 after which time, I could have sworn I read 
>   > somewhere, that
>   > > legislation was pushed through mandating the installation?
>   > >
>   > 
>   
> 
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