Don't forget the Irgun influence prior to your list of modern history points. http://www.litencyc.com/php/stopics.php?rec=true&UID=1376
-Kevin On 8/15/05, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My point is that, if you disregard the historical claims of all parties and > only address the modern state of Israel, it boils down to this: > > 1. The United Nations negotiated a plan to divide the territory into two > states > 2. The Jewish Authority accepted the plan > 3. The surrounding Arab states all voted against the plan in the U.N. > 4. When the vote went against the Arab states, they bailed out on the U.N. > and attacked Israel. > 5. In the last 60 years Israelis have defended themselves against armed > aggression by Arab states and non-state actors like the PLO, Hamas, Hebollah, > and Islamic Jihad. > 6. In that defense, Israelis have occasionally curtailed civil rights and > property rights, stepped on the authority of the PA, even briefly occupied a > section of southern Lebanon in an attempt to build a security buffer. Civil > rights advocates could take issue with any of these things, but none are any > more extraordinary than steps that other free nations, including the U.S., > have taken during times of conflict. > 7. Despite their serious military capabilities, the Israelis have never tried > to fight an offensive war against any of their neighbors. > 8. Israelis have consistently eschewed fighting in favor of negotiation. > 9. Arabs have consistently eschewed negotiation in favor of fighting. > 10. Palestinians have waged a media war in the last two decades to portray > themselves as the victims of Israeli aggression. The fool of a woman sitting > in front of Bush's ranch in Crawford with a sign saying "Israel out of > Palestine" is a perfect example of someone who has swallowed the Palestinian > spin without understanding the facts of the conflict. > > I believe the Palestinians used the historical name Palestine (from the Roman > Syria Palestina, which is derived from Greek for philistine- man I love > Wikipedia) to try to strengthen their claim to the territory, but when you > read the facts, it turns out a third of the "Palestinians" were Jews, and 70% > of "Palestinian" land was owned by the government. > > Moreover, the Arab Israeli conflict, started when the U.N. had only just been > born, represents the total failure of multilateralism through the United > Nations. > > > >I don't quite understand the whole deal: > > > >- Who occupied the land before Israel was created? I mean RIGHT before > >Israel was created, not in the BC? > >- Were the Palestinians moved from the Gaza Strip in order to create Israel? > > > > > > > > > >Matthew Small > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=11 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:169455 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
