I got the controllers last night in the mail.  They are definitely a great 
controller!  They came w/o a box since they're refurbed, but there's not a 
scratch on either one of them.  I'd recommend them now in case anyone's in the 
market for some additional controllers for their PS2

>> -----Original Message-----
>
>They're really the perfect PS2 controller - better than the first generation
>logitech's in every way (they take fewer batteries, are smaller and lighter,
>have a much better RF dongle, and significantly enhanced analog sticks).
>
>They last forever on two AA's (I'm up to 55 hours on FF X-2 with no battery
>changes... and I can't remember how old they were to begin with!)
>
>Highly, highly recommended.
>
>Stay away from the first generation one tho' - they look very different
>(much larger and with a wired RF dongle) so they're easy to spot.
>
>Jim Davis

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