LOL!
Thanks Michael but you sound like a pinko letting your guard down like that!

Benjamin


----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 6:13 AM
Subject: Re: Commie Pinko's thoughts


> I really don't send yours to the Commie Pinko folder.  I was just being
> funny!!
>
> I'm glad that you caught my follow up.  I get phone calls and people
> asking me about why their e-mails are not working (like I should know)
> and I get interrupted and I wasn't paying attention when I hit send.
> When it posted I was embarrassed because it really sounded like I was
> ripping you apart and that wasn't what I was trying to do.  At some
> point in the e-mail I had meant to state that, but I failed to do so.
>
> I really do respect your opinion.  I know it to be an informed one and
> one that is based of something substantive and not 'I think'  or 'I
> feel' because those are too easy.  I enjoy a good debate, especially
> with people who have something to say and can back it up.
>
> I feel better now that I know you understand.  I was afraid that you
> would take it personally and I did not want that at all.
>
> Now, let the mudslinging resume ;-)  You smell worse than Larry!
>
> Michael Corrigan
> Programmer
> Endora Digital Solutions
> www.endoradigital.com
> 630/942-5211 x-134
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Benjamin Falloon
>   To: CF-Community
>   Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 12:55 PM
>   Subject: Commie Pinko's thoughts (was: I'll never understand...)
>
>
>   Dear CF-Community,
>
>   But starting with Michael, then Larry and finally with Howie (because
> he
>   originated this post). Michael, thanks for you're late note. You've
> saved
>   yourself probably a lot of effort (and time) responding to a scathing
>   response I would have written following your earlier comments, had you
> not
>   reverse tracked (or may its a ploy ;-). Anyway, the point is we should
>   resist the temptation where ever possible to resort to personal
> attacks. In
>   may cases this 'attacks' may be the result of a simple
> misinterpretation as
>   is often possible with the limiting nature of text messages. We should
> also
>   keep an open mind even if people comments can sometime result in us
> pulling
>   our hair out in frustration. My involvement on this board is perhaps a
>   reflection of the diversity and ability of people to relate AND
> disagree
>   without a complete break down. After all, most of my posts are
>   controversial, but they do get us talking which should be seen as good
>   healthy discussion...
>
>   There is no doubt that many of us have strong (even extreme) political
>   opinions. These opinions range for the left to the centre and over to
> the
>   right. This should not, and I think does not, prevent us from
> discussing our
>   ideas in an open forum. Each of our positions are no less valid
> because of
>   our political leaning. My believe is that we are mostly a constitution
> of
>   our experiences. These experiences is unique to each other and inform
> our
>   daily discussions. One thing I have tried to do more often is explain
> my
>   points more clearly. I've learn that this is critical to avoiding
> flame
>   wars. It's also a benefit to me as my ideas are put forth in a clearer
> and
>   more composed manner. Over time, I've come to see more of the
> character of
>   people of this board and this helps to understand their posts with
> greater
>   clarity.
>
>   Larry, in an earlier post you referred to me as a troll. No one is
> stopping
>   you from saying this, but I must confess I believe you are hijacking
> this
>   word to further your own arguments. This is unfair as people who might
> come
>   in mid conversation don't see the origins of the posts or the reasons
> for
>   the accusation (if ever this was one). I've said this before. If you
> 'just
>   can't stand' my post, just ignore them, but don't resort to making
> personal
>   attacks. It's way uncool. Just set-up a message rule that diverts my
> posts
>   to the deleted folder. No harm done... we save a lot of time and
> effort. I
>   think Michael sends my posts to the 'Commie Pinko' folder...why don't
> you
>   set up a folder called 'trolls' if you really believe that's what I
> am, and
>   redirect my messages to there (of course you could be creative like
> Michael
>   and call it something else).
>
>   And finally Howie. It's probably too little too late, but I must say,
> all
>   that my post concerning the issues you raised were intended only to
>   illustrate that I (read: me, myself. An Individual) believe we should
> be
>   thoughtful about people who experience these world events first hand.
> That
>   there is a great cultural divide between westerners and people in
>   Afghanistan. That when we are giving the opportunity to hear in their
> own
>   words what it is like, we should not be judgemental and try and look
> at
>   things from their perspective. That is all.
>
>   Benjamin
>
>   Dissident left leaning 'commie pinko' American hating (especially the
>   people) cynical kangaroo riding aussie. Thanks CF-Community for all of
> the
>   colourful adjectives. One day I'll collect them all and make a sig
> file.
>
>
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 4:53 AM
>   Subject: Re: I'll never understand...
>
>
>   > Wow, I just re-read what I wrote and I really came off sounding like
> an
>   > ass.
>   >
>   > Benjamin, I did not mean to imply that you are ignorant.  My
> rantings
>   > were directed at a mindset that looks at a couple of numbers and
> then
>   > spouts off like they actually know something.  I know that you're
> not
>   > like that.  We totally disagree on everything, but I know that
> you're
>   > not that sort of person.  My response really sounded like I was
> going
>   > off on you and I wasn't.  I sincerely apologize!!
>   >
>   > As for Gary and Larry, you still need some work, but that's ok. We
> still
>   > like you!
>   >
>   > I think that one day you too will be like that little bee girl in
> that
>   > blind melon video and find your wacky little place in the world.
>   > Hopefully it won't be in a field with a bunch of bee people in
> tights.
>   > That might be scary!
>   >
>   > Michael Corrigan
>   > Programmer
>   > Endora Digital Solutions
>   > www.endoradigital.com
>   > 630/942-5211 x-134
>   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   >   To: CF-Community
>   >   Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 10:31 AM
>   >   Subject: Re: I'll never understand...
>   >
>   >
>   >   One reason why I don't comment on Afghanistan, Israel, etc.  I
> will
>   >   comment on our governments activities, but I don't comment on the
> way
>   >   other countries live their lives.
>   >
>   >   I have no problem with people criticizing the actions of the
>   > government.
>   >   I may disagree with ones assertions, but I don't have a problem
> with
>   >   people commenting on it.  When someone makes ignorant (as in
>   > uneducated)
>   >   comments on something that they know literally nothing about, then
> I
>   >   don't care for it.  His interpretation does not come from direct
>   >   experience but through the filtered and veiled eyes of others.
> His
>   >   disdain for our country seethes deeper than just a loathing for
> the
>   >   government but extends to the people themselves.  The comments
> that he
>   >
>   >   made are evidence of that.
>   >
>   >   I do not believe that we live in a racist society.  You can't look
> at
>   > a
>   >   bunch of numbers and from that derive the problem.  That
> demonstrates
>   > to
>   >   me total ignorance.
>   >
>   >   Michael Corrigan
>   >   Programmer
>   >   Endora Digital Solutions
>   >   www.endoradigital.com
>   >   630/942-5211 x-134
>   >     ----- Original Message -----
>   >     From: Will Swain
>   >     To: CF-Community
>   >     Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 10:00 AM
>   >     Subject: RE: I'll never understand...
>   >
>   >
>   >     A reasonable point, apart from the fact that to the best of my
>   >   knowledge, no
>   >     one on this list lives in Afghanistan, yet we all seem to have
>   >   opinions on
>   >     the quality of life there.
>   >
>   >     If you are only qualified to comment on a country, its domestic
>   >   politics and
>   >     its culture if you live there, we wouldn't be discussing much on
>   > here.
>   >
>   >     will
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >     -----Original Message-----
>   >     From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   >     Sent: 17 December 2001 15:49
>   >     To: CF-Community
>   >     Subject: Re: I'll never understand...
>   >
>   >
>   >     Where is this perception that you have come from?  You don't
> even
>   > live
>   >     here?
>   >
>   >     Michael Corrigan
>   >     Programmer
>   >     Endora Digital Solutions
>   >     www.endoradigital.com
>   >     630/942-5211 x-134
>   >       ----- Original Message -----
>   >       From: Benjamin Falloon
>   >       To: CF-Community
>   >       Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 11:49 AM
>   >       Subject: Re: I'll never understand...
>   >
>   >
>   >       > A group of people that will cut off a thief's hands, condone
> the
>   >     murder of
>   >       family members for adultery, etc...
>   >
>   >       Also, I'd have to say that if you could respond with some
> facts
>   >   about
>   >       america that are equally disturbing. America, a country glued
> to
>   > the
>   >       television set, obsessed with buying things they don't need
> and
>   >       bombing/invading foreign countries a least twice every decade
>   > (while
>   >     engaged
>   >       in numerous conflicts around the globe). The american idea of
>   >   justice
>   >     is
>   >       executing people in the electric chair or dispatching them via
> a
>   >   'gas
>   >       chamber', or the so called 'humane' method of killing - the
> lethal
>   >       injection. A country built on slavery which still mantains a
>   >   powerful
>   >     racist
>   >       undercurrent in its cultural make up. Major racial disparity
> in
>   > the
>   >   US
>   >       results in the incarceration of African American men at a rate
> 4
>   >   times
>   >     those
>   >       incarcerated by the former aparteid nation of South Africa.
>   >
>   >       Do you want me to go on?
>   >
>   >       Benjamin
>   >
>   >
>   >       ----- Original Message -----
>   >       From: "Howie Hamlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   >       To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   >       Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:16 AM
>   >       Subject: I'll never understand...
>   >
>   >
>   >       > I really don't get it...
>   >       >
>   >       > A group of people that will cut off a thief's hands, condone
> the
>   >     murder of
>   >       family members for adultery, etc...  Yet, here's an
>   >       > article that really makes me wonder:
>   >       >
>   >       >
>   >
>   http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/world/ny-warpray1216.story?=
>   >
>   >     ny%2
>   >       Dtop%2Dheadlines
>   >       >
>   >       > I may be naive but I don't think I'll ever understand this
> way
>   > of
>   >       thinking...
>   >       >
>   >       > Howie
>   >       >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>
> 
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