Why bother? Pretty soon the Martians will rule all and we won't have to worry about such petty things. They will take care of all of us!
Michael Corrigan Programmer Endora Digital Solutions 1900 S. Highland Avenue, Suite 200 Lombard, IL 60148 630/627-5200 x-136 630/627-5255 Fax ----- Original Message ----- From: Jacob To: CF-Community Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 3:14 PM Subject: RE: Countries How about the State pull down menu? Alabama is first. Should we change it to California? Whites over Blacks... At 01:13 PM 1/8/2002 -0800, you wrote: >The pull down menu issue is racist. Why are we putting United States >first, and not Afghanistan? Once again, the United States, main composed >of white people, trying to put down brown people... > >Does this work Mark? ;) > >At 03:04 PM 1/8/2002 -0500, you wrote: > >I truly love this list. There's no other place where you can go and see > >a simple comment about a drop-down menu get turned into a heated debate > >over the differences between sarcasm and irony. We've got to fit racism > >and politics in here somewhere. > > > >Mark > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 1:31 PM > >To: CF-Community > >Subject: Re: Countries > > > > > >Given your past comments demonstrating how you feel about the U.S.' > >attit > >ude > >about being the biggest and the best, I would say that sarcasm would be > >t > >he > >easiest to convey, in this instance. As for your suggestion that this > >wa > >s a > >form of irony, well, here are the definitions of irony .. which one of > >th > >ese > >definitions applies to your 'subtle irony'? > > > >i·ro·ny (r-n, r-) > >n. pl. i·ro·nies > > 1.. > > 1.. The use of words to express something different from and often > >opposite to their literal meaning. > > 2.. An expression or utterance marked by a deliberate contrast > >betwee > >n > >apparent and intended meaning. > > 3.. A literary style employing such contrasts for humorous or > >rhetori > >cal > >effect. See Synonyms at wit1. > > 2.. > > 1.. Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually > >occu > >rs: > >"Hyde noted the irony of Ireland's copying the nation she most hated" > >(Richard Kain). > > 2.. An occurrence, result, or circumstance notable for such > >incongrui > >ty. > >See Usage Note at ironic. > > 3.. Dramatic irony. > > 4.. Socratic irony. > >irony \I"ron*y\, a. [From Iron.] 1. Made or consisting of iron; > >partaking > > of > >iron; iron; as, irony chains; irony particles. [R.] ((I don't think > >this > >applies)) > > > >irony \I"ron*y\, n.[L. ironia, Gr. ? dissimulation, fr. ? a dissembler > >in > >speech, fr. ? to speak; perh. akin to E. word: cf. F. ironie.] 1. > >Dissimulation; ignorance feigned for the purpose of confounding or > >provok > >ing > >an antagonist. 2. A sort of humor, ridicule, or light sarcasm, which > >ado > >pts > >a mode of speech the meaning of which is contrary to the literal sense > >of > >the words. > > > >irony n 1: witty language used to convey insults or scorn; "he used > >sarca > >sm > >to upset his opponent"; "irony is wasted on the stupid" [syn: sarcasm, > >satire, caustic remark] 2: incongruity between what might be expected > >and > >what actually occurs: "the irony of Ireland's copying the nation she > >most > >hated" 3: a trope that involves incongruity between what is expected and > >what occurs. > > > >Call it sarcasm, or irony, or mince words however you like, the meaning > >a > >nd > >intent of the statement was clear. > > > >Todd > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Benjamin Falloon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:35 PM > >Subject: Re: Countries > > > > > > > sorry howie... I'm afraid your wrong... this is a very BIG difference > > > between sarcasm and subtle irony... You read my posts and read > >sarcasm, > >even > > > when it wasn't there in the first place... I'd say of all of the > >implie > >d > > > tones, sarcasm would be one of the most difficult to convey in writing > > > >as > > > it's mostly audio/visual (ie. in person). So reading this inturn > >re-enforces > > > your notion that I am a "USA basher" as you say. I'm sorry, but your > > > categorisation of me is pointless... have I ever categorized you? > > > > > > Benjamin > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-community@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
