It doesn't have to be. Collectivist government is when we as individuals are responsible to take care of one another.
Government can be a force that is really only there to protect the rights of the individual. The military, police, courts are really all that are necessary. As far as I am concerned laws should only be written that are targeted at protecting the rights of the individual. > -----Original Message----- > From: Chesty Puller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 1:04 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Next in line to be labelled Dictator by America > > But isn't collectivism what government is in the first place? > I think the question is how far you want to go with it. > - Matt > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Heald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <cf-community@houseoffusion.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 12:58 PM > Subject: RE: Next in line to be labelled Dictator by America > > > > Replace greed with self interest or ambition, like I said, > and you can > > make > > the argument that capitalism is true to the nature of man. > > > > Several writers, using artistic license, use the word greed > to explain > > that > > in human nature which makes us want more, and work harder. > > > > I don't agree with you man, and I don't think that any form of > > collectivist > > government will truly work. > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 12:55 PM > >> To: CF-Community > >> Subject: Re: Next in line to be labelled Dictator by America > >> > >> Ah...but a general desire to do better does not equal Greed. > >> Greed is something completely different and has nothing *but* > >> a Negative connotation. > >> > >> And unless we are talking about pure Greed the case for a > >> Capitalist economy vs a mixed capitalist or a non-capitalist > >> economy cannot be made simply by pointing to man's Nature. > >> > >> On 1/10/06, Tim Heald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > I think the semantic argument is where some people get lost > >> here Gruss. > >> > > >> > It might be better to use a word like ambition or desire. > >> Greed has > >> > such a negative connotation for most people that you will > >> > automatically have people arguing with you. > >> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:191406 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54