What you provided was charity, and doesn't honestly have a place in this
conversation.  Charity is based on choice.  You opt in.  You choose to give.

Welfare is based on force, I am forced to pay a certain amount of my income
into welfare.

See the difference?

Tim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 2:07 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: CF-Comm Welfare Invitational
>
>
> Being from Atlanta, this part of the thread's got my interest...  I
> grew up in suburban Atlanta, an area on the border of the town of
> Tucker and Stone Mountain.
>
> While I was in my teens, the church my family attended did a "Caring
> Tree" project every Christmas.  It's your standard "every ornament has
> a family on it" thing and people in the church pick a family or three
> and buy gifts for them.  Everyone brings the gifts in and they end up
> magically being whisked off and going to the needy families and
> everyone gets warm fuzzies.
>
> One year I also helped deliver the gifts and it was one of the most
> eye opening experiences I've ever had.
>
> I helped deliver gifts to single moms who cried when we arrived with
> "santa's gifts" for their kids.  I helped deliver gifts to people who
> were embarrassed that they needed help and thankful at the same time.
> I even ended up at the homes of people I went to school with -
> something that blew me away at the time.  These people needed help,
> and were generally good people who wanted to get out of the situation
> they were in.  They were thankful for the safety net we provided them.
>
> I also helped deliver gifts to thankless parents with tons of kids
> overrunning their home. Some people didn't even get off their sofa
> when we arrived, stuffing their face with cheetos while directing us
> where to set down their gifts.  These are the people who don't deserve
> to be on welfare, and these are the people who need to get their asses
> kicked.
>
> We just need to differentiate between the people who need the safety
> net while we are kicking lazy people's asses (and there were ALOT of
> lazy people).
>
> -Cameron
>
> On 1/28/06, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yes, rural georgia.  Although parts of the city have clusters
> of them too
> >
> > On 1/28/06, dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I need to go. But what I was wondering was -- we are talkng
> someplace rural, yes? Not Atlanta?
> > >
> > > Dana
> > >
> > > > Nah, they won't work.  I can't even get them to come over and clean
> > > > my
> > > > house for good wages.  They just want hand-outs.  I've even bought
> > > > birth control pills and condoms for them, only to have them turn up
> > > > pregnant again a few months later.  Total lack of any sense of
> > > > self-worth or responsibility.  But they can always find a
> ride to the
> > > > nail salon or the mall on check day, or how to score some rock for
> > > > their hump buddies.  Waste of air.  And yes, I'm bitter about it.
> > > >
> > > > Middle Georgia is just north of the gnat line and just south of Plum
> > > > Nearly.  You drive south til you smell it, then walk east til you
> > > > step
> > > > in it.
> > > >
> > > > On 1/28/06, dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > don't know a thing about middle Georgia or your cousin, so I can't
> > > > speak to the choices available to those women. I suspect a
> lot of them
> > > > wouldn't mind a break from their screaming rug rats and
> would be glad
> > > > to work to get it ;) Where is middle Georgia anyway,
> > > LOL?
>
> 

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