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On 3/2/06, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Because the only people denying it as a historical fact are those attacking
> > Jews. It's also attacking the history of the country in case. If a country
> > says that attacks on it's history is not allowed, then....
>
> I would disagree. There have been debates that did not involve
> attacking jews where people questioned the extent of the holocaust, or
> whether it even happened. not all these people hate jews.

Examples please. The only situations I've seen that have involved
holocaust denial have been either very radical Islamics or Nazi
wannabes.

>
> And the question is not whether or not the speech is anti-semitic, the
> question is why is anti-semitic speech widely recognised as being
> irresponsible to publish and an accepted curtailment of Free Speech
> when and other types of bigotry, or racism, religious insensitivity
> etc. does not enjoy such understanding.
>
> > Because this isn't an opinion. This is rejection of historical fact for the
> > singular reason of attacking a specific group. No one else has this done to
> > them. People who hate blacks don't deny the slave trade. People who hate
> > Muslims don't deny the Crusades. It's only people who hate the Jews who deny
> > the Holocaust. Show me a comparable response where history is manipulated to
> > attack another.
>
> "The Rwanda genocide was planned. That what the recent war crimes
> trials were about in Rwanda and in Uganda.
>
> As for Serbia and Bosnia, that was planned - that is what has come out
> in the Mlosivec's trial."
>
> As for an instance where history is manipulated to attack another, how
> about the recent Muslim expose where the religion is demonised and
> their primary prophet referred to as a goat herder and a common thief?
> Aren't all people that say those things intent on attacking
> Jews....err...I mean Muslims?

Actually I was commenting on MD's point that the Rwanda and Serbia
genocide attempts were not planned.

Lets try another one. Currently in Turkey its illegal to claim that
there was an Armenian genocide in 1914-1919 where over a million
Armenians died. Armenians are a very distinct ethnic group that extend
from the Trans-Caucus area (thing Georgia, Armenia etc) through the
eastern shore of the Mediterranean. You can be jailed in Turkey if you
even question the denial policy.


--
Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment;
and he betrays instead of serving you if he sacrifices it to your
opinion.

Edmond Burke

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