But that's not the argument...you're still dodging.

We're talking about professors presenting the material they are supposed to
teach in an unbiased manner.  What's so friggin' hard about that?  I feel
like I need to get a hammer and pound that into your head Larry.  Why can't
you just agree that political bias should be kept out of the classroom? On
both on the right and the left.  Jesus H. Christ man, it's like talking to a
black hole.

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 3:32 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

but his efforts will squelch academic freedom. That is important.

On 3/7/06, Kevin Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You're missing my point Larry, he's not a professor, my argument lies with
> that.  Not what some right-wing zealot is doing. You're deflecting from
the
> real argument here Larry, and I suspect that's because you know you can't
> win. Just keep personal opinion out of the class room, is that too much to
> ask? Apparently so.
>
> Here's some numbers that ought to make anyone at least look at it a little
> differently
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A8427-2005Mar28.html
>
> By their own description, 72 percent of those teaching at American
> universities and colleges are liberal and 15 percent are conservative,
says
> the study being published this week. The imbalance is almost as striking
in
> partisan terms, with 50 percent of the faculty members surveyed
identifying
> themselves as Democrats and 11 percent as Republicans.
>
> The disparity is even more pronounced at the most elite schools, where,
> according to the study, 87 percent of faculty are liberal and 13 percent
are
> conservative.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:49 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses
>
> I do not think Horowitz's pushing his Academic Freedom Act is just a
> college campus talk. Or his offering bounties for left wing prof's
> statements.
>
> Or his whitewashing of the historical record.
>
> larry
>
> On 3/7/06, Kevin Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > He's a speaker on a college campus Larry, just like when Michael Moore
> makes
> > appearances.  He's not a professor.  There's a big difference. People
can
> > choose to go see him or not. Many times students are required to take
> > classes in order to graduate.
> >
> > There's a big difference here, and you know that.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:10 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses
> >
> > You mean like David Horowitz's little crusade and retraction of some
> > of his claims.
> > http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2006/01/11/retract
> >
> > Its also interesting some of the stuff in wikipedia about him
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Horowitz
> >
> > Quotations
> >
> >     * If blacks are oppressed in America, why isn't there a black
> > exodus? - from the 1999 Salon article "Guns don't kill black people,
> > other blacks do"
> >
> >     * The black middle-class in America is a prosperous community that
> > is now larger in absolute terms than the black underclass. Does its
> > existence not suggest that economic adversity is the result of
> > failures of individual character rather than the lingering
> > after-effects of racial discrimination and a slave system that ceased
> > to exist well over a century ago? - From the article: Ten Reasons Why
> > Reparations for Blacks is a Bad Idea for Blacks and Racist Too
> >
> >     * Real human flesh and blood had been sacrificed on the altar of
> > utopian ideals. A collusive silence had followed. - Concerning Betty
> > Van Patter's murder from Jamie Glazov's introduction to "Left
> > Illusions"
> >
> >     * For the sake of the poorest peasants in this Godforsaken
> > country, I can't wait for the contras to march into this town and
> > liberate it from these fucking Sandinistas! - In the dining room of
> > the Intercontinental Hotel in Nicaragua, during the fall of 1987
> >
> >     * Intelligent people who read his book will discover for
> > themselves what a second-rate ideologue and empty intellectual suit he
> > ( Cornel West ) is without anyone's help. - from an article in
> > FrontPageMagazine.com, October 18, 2004.
> >
> >     * Leftists think that nothing is bad but the Holocaust. - from a
> > speech at Michigan State University
> >
> >     * Leftists want to regulate everything but hard drugs and sex. -
> > from a speech at Michigan State University
> >
> >     * What about the debt blacks owe to America-to white America-for
> > liberating them from slavery?- from "Ten Reasons Why Reparations for
> > Blacks is a Bad Idea for Blacks-and Racist Too," an article in
> > FrontPageMagazine.com, January 3, 2001.
> >
> >     * Liberation is no longer, and can be no longer, merely a national
> > concern. The dimension of the struggle, as Lenin and the Bolsheviks so
> > clearly saw, is international: its road is the socialist revolution. -
> > from the 1969 essay "Imperialism and Revolution"
> >
> >     * Black Africans and Arabs were responsible for enslaving the
> > ancestors of African-Americans. - from "Ten Reasons Why Reparations
> > for Blacks is a Bad Idea for Blacks-and Racist Too," an article in
> > FrontPageMagazine.com, January 3, 2001.
> >
> >     * The claim for reparations is premised on the false assumption
> > that only whites have benefited from slavery. If slave labor created
> > wealth for Americans, then obviously it has created wealth for black
> > Americans as well, including the descendants of slaves. - from "Ten
> > Reasons Why Reparations for Blacks is a Bad Idea for Blacks-and Racist
> > Too," an article in FrontPageMagazine.com, January 3, 2001.
> >
> >
> > On 3/7/06, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >  I'd say the same for a right-winger doing the same type of stuff.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Good to hear!!! Remember this statement when your state board of
> education
> > > gets around to discussing whether ideologues should be allowed to
> > > indoctrinate your children with their religious beliefs during biology
> > > classes. You'll be just as vocal an opponent to this type of biased
> > > philosophical tripe I trust....
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 



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