That's not what I said Larry, you're putting words in my mouth. Trying to make it look as though I know nothing about WWII, which I would venture I know more than you do, particulary the European theater.
I said that if no one in Britain defended the country, Germany would've had no problem at all. Larry C. Lyons wrote: > It really is the height of arrogance to assume that if not for the > American intervention the Germans would have successfully invaded and > conquered Britain. > > Kevin, look at military history and look at what was required for that > to happen. German did not have what it took to successfully stage an > invasion of Britain, even immediate after the Dunkirk invasion. They > did not control the air, and definitely did not control the Channel. > The plans for Sealion had the German forces go over in river barges. > Those barges are also known as sitting targets. There's the is the > matter of resupply, reinforcements etc. > > Given the situation, most likely the defeat of Nazi Germany would have > taken longer, but would have happened. Neither Britain, nor the > Commonwealth countries were sitting on their asses scratching their > nether regions. Most likely the war would have taken an extra 3 to 5 > years and by that time would have involved atomic bombs in the end. > The US was not the only country with a nuclear program - the British > also were working on one - and when it was subsumed into Manhattan, > the Manhattan project got a big boost in uranium refining and > expertise in electronics. > > larry > > On 3/17/06, Kevin Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I suppose that's better than your height of pussy. I'm guessing the >> Germans would've improved your families gene pool. >> >> You get what you give there Waynie, tit for tat. >> >> >> Wayne Putterill wrote: >> >>> Just what the conversation needed . six foot seven of stupid :) >>> >>> On 3/17/06, Kevin Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Wayne, just be glad your fellow countrymen a generation ago didn't "grow >>>> out", otherwise, you'd probably be speaking German. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Wayne Putterill wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I'm not anti american, I'm anti anyone who makes this world a worse >>>>> >>>>> >>>> place to be. >>>> >>>> >>>>> I'm not bashing america, my own country had a large part in this >>>>> disgusting affair. >>>>> >>>>> As for calling me antisemetic, anyone who knows me would laugh out >>>>> loud at that - particularly my jewish friends. >>>>> >>>>> I would lay down my life for something I believed in, but I grew out >>>>> of playing with guns when I started wearing long trousers. >>>>> >>>>> On 3/17/06, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> There were no weapons found, there is no was to ever prove they did or >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> did >>>> >>>> >>>>>> not exist at this point. >>>>>> >>>>>> BTW Why is that "spin"? Are all of my statements true? >>>>>> >>>>>> How about you stop with America bashing bullshit? And the anti-Semitic >>>>>> bullshit that you lefties like to spout. It makes me sick. How about >>>>>> instead of sitting around bitching you actually stand for something, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> with >>>> >>>> >>>>>> not only your principles, but your life on the line? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Tim Heald >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> 703-300-3911 >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 11:51 AM >>>>>> To: CF-Community >>>>>> Subject: Re: Saddam Pretended to have Weapons to prevent Attack >>>>>> >>>>>> how about you actually deal with the point being discussed instead of >>>>>> spouting another load of spin. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 3/17/06, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> How about the violations of the cease fire? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How about the UN resolutions allowing us to use force to enforce the >>>>>>> sanctions that were being violated? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How about the attacks against American Aircraft? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How about the fact that oil is actually of vital importance to the >>>>>>> national security of the United States? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Tim Heald >>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> 703-300-3911 >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 3:16 AM >>>>>>> To: CF-Community >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Saddam Pretended to have Weapons to prevent Attack >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That's what blows all the "this means we were right to go in" >>>>>>> arguments apart. We had ways of finding out if he did have WMD and the >>>>>>> UK and US governments didn't let the people involved finish their >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> work. >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> On 3/17/06, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just a reminder the people on the ground, the UN inspectors who were >>>>>>>> in Iraq, and the IAEA always said that there were no WMD's. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 3/16/06, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When you have your own guys, plus other countries all agreeing >>>>>>>>> that they have them, then the risk factor seems within the bounds. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you try it and you turn out wrong, then people second guess, >>>>>>>>> which is good if it makes us better, but when the point is just to >>>>>>>>> belittle then it doesn't help anybody. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Were mistakes made? Clearly. However I don't think they could have >>>>>>>>> done this any other way. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:13 PM >>>>>>>>>> To: CF-Community >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Saddam Pretended to have Weapons to prevent Attack >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dino wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Israel only attacked Iraq when they were building a nuclear >>>>>>>>>>> reactor >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> express purpose of gaining nukes to attack Israel. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Combine that with what gMoney said and you have: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 1.) If we thought there was a threat, why didn't we just bomb >>>>>>>>>> the shit out of it w/o having to go in? Lame Answer: mobile labs. >>>>>>>>>> Apparently REALLY mobile. So mobile they don't exist. Which >>>>>>>>>> brings >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> us to ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2.) Why don't we know how reliable our intelligence is? From >>>>>>>>>> the beginning the whole everybody-thought-blah-blah-blah strikes >>>>>>>>>> me as absolutely moronic. It's called risk management - I know >>>>>>>>>> they offer classes at HBS on the topic. Bush must've skipped them. >>>>>>>>>> Whenever you have intelligence you have a reliability factor on >>>>>>>>>> it. Either ours was low and we went in anyway or we haven't >>>>>>>>>> learned shit about intelligence in the last 50 years. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:200529 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
