You suck.  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:10 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: ColdFusion is dying again over on Talk
> Importance: High
> 
> G-d damn it, someone argue with me :)
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 1:31 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: ColdFusion is dying again over on Talk
> >
> >
> > Sorry Ray, just using your email as a valid point to jump the
> > coldfusion/asp.Net fight over here.
> >
> > Anyway, a lot of valid concerns have been mentioned.
> >
> > One of the things CF is not good at, and really can't do at all, is to
> > produce desktop applications; however I wouldn't say that is a
> > negative as I
> > am WEB DEVELOPER.  I have made applications for PDAs, for Desktops, for
> > phones you name, hell I even wrote some stuff to generate XML for menus
on
> > Cisco IP phones in CF.
> >
> > Now, I was accused of "arguing just to argue", I'm sorry but that
couldn't
> > be further from the truth.  This is my lively hood we are talking about.
> > This is what pays for my food and house and clothes and my kids stuff.
If
> > there was something better I would learn it in a heart beat.
> > Something else
> > to note, I am not saying CF is better than ASP.Net.  The point that I am
> > arguing is that you can:
> >
> > 1. Do anything is ASP.Net that I can't do in CF.  That's not
> > true, I'm sure
> > I can duplicate any functionality you have built in ASP.Net.  I might
use
> > java to do so, but I do that all the time.
> >
> > 2. The cost of CF is negatively impacting it.  I don't think this is
true
> > either.  As someone mentioned on Talk, how would it look to big
> > business if
> > Adobe were letting CF go too cheap?  I mean, look at the price of say
web
> > sphere.  I think that it was Big Ben that did the comparison of
> > how much you
> > would have to spend on additions, components and controls to mimic what
CF
> > contains natively.  The ASP server was some ridiculous amount like
80,000
> > dollars.
> >
> > Listen, ADO, are you serious?  I am using ADO right now to connect to
> > various DBs as it gives me some functionality I was missing with JDBC,
so
> > nope I can do that too :)
> >
> > Keep them coming man, I have yet to find anything that ASP.Net can do
that
> > CF cannot do.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 12:54 PM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: RE: ColdFusion is dying again over on Talk
> > >
> > > > Seriously, along with drivers going 5 miles under the speedlimit....
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Casey
> > >
> > > Ugh, I'm such a dork, I actually was thinking of hardware drivers and
> > > thinking WTF does he mean?  I need to step away from the computer for
a
> > > few
> > > minutes, I think.  Sigh.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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