Adam-

Jumping in a little late here, but this is something I think about a
good bit.  I'd recommend reading Joel's article on developers and what
motivates us as developers.  It's not always about the benefits or
money (thought they do count).

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/printerFriendly/articles/FieldGuidetoDevelopers.html

When I'm looking for a job, I tend to view the benefits, pay and other
compensation as a given and then look at the rest of the more fuzzy
criteria talked about in that article.  I mean, as long as I am
getting market rates and some sort of decent health benefits, I'm more
about the working environment, the co-workers I am working with, and
what types of projects I'm working on.

Of course YMMV, and everyone does have their own individual
motivations.  Some people may view health benefits and/or pay as the
most important, others may focus on the social aspects, and others may
focus on the technical challenges/opportunities of a job.

For a big company, compensation is often set in stone, but for a
smaller one it's more flexible.  I think finding someone you can work
well with and who fits the job is important first and foremost, and
then if they are a reasonable person, you are a reasonable person, and
both the candidate and the employer *BOTH* feel strongly about working
together, working out the compensation is fairly easy to do.  It is
important to have a baseline though - just to make sure you aren't
taken advantage of.

-Cameron

On 10/3/06, Adam Churvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For some reason the topic of employee compensation keeps coming up recently 
> in personal conversations, and my last experience with it was twenty years 
> ago in our family's previous business, so I'm terribly out of date on the 
> subject.
>
> What would you say is a good compensation package -- salary, benefits, etc?  
> The hypothetical person being compensated would be talented in the 
> technologies s/he is currently using, wanting to learn exciting new 
> technologies, blah blah blah -- typical headhunter BS description.
>
> Before you fire back with "Eight million dollars, company car, etc, etc," I'm 
> looking for serious answers -- if I can get them from you guys ;)  I could 
> really use some perspective.
>
> Also, what are the intangibles you find most important in companies that are 
> hiring?  Some of the people I've been talking with left a previous job 
> because of things that I would normally find trivial compared to employment 
> as a whole, but then again I wasn't there.
>
> One thing I've heard from lots of people I've talked to is how violated they 
> feel when they are forced to take drug tests or the like.  And things like 
> background checks for credit or criminal history.  I know there are fields 
> where things like this are considered necessary, but I'm narrowing the scope 
> to our industry because it's the only one I'm familiar with.
>
> Any feedback you guys can give me would be appreciated.  I don't know why 
> this is so much in my mind, but when it gets like this I have to go all the 
> way through a subject before I'm done with it.
> Respectfully,
>
> Adam Phillip Churvis
> Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
> BlueDragon Alliance Founding Committee
>
>
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