Technology/automation vs cheap labor is one thing. Technology/automation versus illegal labor (or illegally cheap) is another. Remove the illegal labor and I think the technology would advance faster, improving the US's competitiveness with both first and third world farms...
-Cameron On 6/24/07, Dinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I was getting at was that we are competing, more so every > day, with the rest of the world. And teh 3rd world, in some cases. > > So, if the better tech IS the answer (which it always is, but some > stuff is hard to automate), we'll get there even with cheap labor, > cuz the automation is only viable if it's cheaper than cheap labor. > > The tomato picking is a good example, actually, because that > tech came about, even with cheap labor (and as a way to get > even more bang for the buck). > > But you also gotta factor in the fmall sarmer, ya know? Can > Jim Deere afford that cost effective, but still $$$$$ piece of tech? > Do we want to kill off the small farmer? I'm not a hugr fan of > some of the subsidy stuff, so... but I don't know. I also really > like farms, and self-sustainability, etc.. Local growers, etc.. > > I just don't think illegal immigration is really holding us back > on the tech front... and that soon, we're gonna have to deal > with the fact that we're in this with the rest of the world... > > tech or no, no? > > PS I don't mean we should kill off important stuff, just to > compete... sometimes, winning isn't everything. Ya know? > > On 6/23/07, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > That's actually kinda my point - in agricultural areas where there isn't > > cheap labor available in the US, those areas have been automated. Areas > > with cheap (illegal) labor don't advance because the low costs farms have > > when they break labor laws. That, in my opinion, has been artificially > > suppressing advancement. > > > > -Cameron > > > > On 6/23/07, Dinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Our tech is the only reason we've been able to keep up with the rest of > > > the > > > world, actually. See tomato picking, for instance. We'd be slaughtered > > > by > > > 3rd worlders with plenty of cheap labor if we didn't have superior (and > > > keep > > > producing superior) technology. > > > > > > > -- > > Cameron Childress > > Sumo Consulting Inc > > http://www.sumoc.com > > --- > > cell: 678.637.5072 > > aim: cameroncf > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:237172 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
