unless there is something in the definition of standing... the thing that concerns me about the legislative brance is that they face election so often they are vulnerable to despots who wave a flag and accuse other people of lack of patriotism or not supporting the troops.
Don't know the answer On 7/9/07, Heald, Timothy (NIH/CIT) [C] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Absolutely, but not one that the judiciary can easily rectify, it's > really going to take attention from the legislature to make any > difference here. > > -- > Timothy J. Heald | NIH-Contractor | iGate > Enterprise Business Intelligence Branch (EBIB) > Division of Enterprise and Custom Applications, CIT/NIH/DHHS > Office: 301.594.5611 | Fax: 301.443.7010 | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 4:45 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Bush, the new Teflon Don! :) > > > > seriously, Tim, if you or I were being wiretapped -- would we > > know? If I apply to work at Sandia Labs tomorrow (which I > > wouldn't, but > > suppose) and I just don't get the job, would I ever know that > > it was because someone I have spoken to on the phone said hi > > to an IRA member in a pub? > > > > (Note to Big Brother: This is speculation mind you, but I > > understand it's hard to spend any time in Belfast at all > > before you speak to a member of the IRA, whether you know it or not) > > > > I understand what standing is and legally you are absolutely right. > > From the point of view of public policy, there's a real issue here. > > > > Dana > > > > On 7/6/07, Heald, Timothy (NIH/CIT) [C] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I don't like using intelligence services against US > > citizens. I think > > > that the legislature needs to get it's act together once GW > > is out and > > > make sure they patch any holes in the laws about > > wiretapping, however, > > > if the parties involved cannot prove that they have been > > impacted by > > > the wire tapping program then they have no legal grounds to > > bring a case. > > > That's the law. > > > > > > Now we need to find some Americans that have proof that the wire > > > tapping program was used against them to reinstate the case. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Dinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 2:55 PM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: Re: Bush, the new Teflon Don! :) > > > > > > > > NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! > > > > > > > > Freaking BS, man. Bull-shit. > > > > > > > > On 7/6/07, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN0642400020070706 > > > > > > > > > > Court dismisses lawsuit on spying program > > > > > > > > > > "CINCINNATI (Reuters) - A U.S. appeals court ruled on > > > > Friday a lawsuit > > > > > challenging the domestic spying program created by > > > > President George W. > > > > > Bush after the September 11 attacks must be dismissed, in a > > > > decision > > > > > based on narrow technical grounds. > > > > > > > > > > The appeals court panel ruled by a 2-1 vote that the groups and > > > > > individuals who brought the lawsuit, led by the American Civil > > > > > Liberties Union, did not have the legal right to bring the > > > > challenge > > > > > in the first place." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:237942 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
